'Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus'.

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The 'Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus' has had non-circulating medal coins whose denominations were based on the size & weights as their Turkish counterparts.

Have a read here;

http://www.chiefacoins.com/Database/Countries/Turkish_Republic_of_Northern_Cyprus.htm .

Aidan.
Greek objections in 3.....2.....1.....
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We already have some listed in Exonumia. Could these be added there?
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there is occupation there thats why nobody has recognize this place as a country..except Turkey who made the invasion..

we should not recognize occupated places nowhere..not even medasls
The “Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus” does not exist as an independent republic since no nation other than Turkey has officially recognised Northern Cyprus as a sovereign state. It has received diplomatic recognition only from Turkey, on which it is dependent for economic, political and military support. The rest of the international community, including the United Nations and European Union, recognize the sovereignty of the Republic of Cyprus over the whole island and the northern part of the island as territory of the Republic of Cyprus under Turkish occupation.

That’ s why we should not accept the proposal to create a new country in the catalogue since this country does not really exists.
Quote: "Medvet"​The “Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus” does not exist as an independent republic since no nation other than Turkey has officially recognised Northern Cyprus as a sovereign state. It has received diplomatic recognition only from Turkey, on which it is dependent for economic, political and military support. The rest of the international community, including the United Nations and European Union, recognize the sovereignty of the Republic of Cyprus over the whole island and the northern part of the island as territory of the Republic of Cyprus under Turkish occupation.

​That’ s why we should not accept the proposal to create a new country in the catalogue since this country does not really exists.
​Very well said.
Also, the tokens that are reffered to are privately made at a Chinese firm, so they definitely doesn't belong in the main cataligue.
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Whilst I agree with the political sentiment of Medvet and the numismatic argument of ngdawa, it must be noted that this "entity" exists (however much we might wish it didn't) and that, if it ever does issue real coins or banknotes for circulation, they belong in the main catalogue. For now, as far as I can tell, anything issued in this entity's name belongs in Exonumia on numismatic grounds, not political.
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The 'Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus' is in the same vein as Abkhazia, Artsakh, South Ossetia, & Transnistria - no-one recognises them - yet they are in the main catalogue as non-circulating medal-coins.

Aidan.
Quote: "BCNumismatics"​The 'Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus' is in the same vein as Abkhazia, Artsakh, South Ossetia, & Transnistria - no-one recognises them - yet they are in the main catalogue as non-circulating medal-coins.

​Aidan.
​The difference is that the Central Banks are issuing the couns - and in Transnistria they're even circulating. Northern Cyprus' coins are private issues from a Chinese firm, and have notjing to do with Northern Cyprus.

I believe we decided not to add ISIS (for obvious reasons) to the catalogue, even if they actually issued coins.
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These were struck in Turkey at the Turkish Mint in Istanbul;













Aidan.
Yet they are tokens.
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The denominations can be deduced from comparing them by size to the Turkish coins that were struck at the time.

The Turkish Lira was a hyperinflation hit currency.

The 1984 one would be denominated at around 5,000 Lira;



This gold one would be denominated at around 25 Million Lira;



http://www.chiefacoins.com/Database/Countries/Turkish_Republic_of_Northern_Cyprus.htm has more information.

Aidan.
They are still tokens. Why can't you accept that?

I added St. Barthélemy clins, which actually was lrgal tender on the island (which your Northern Cypriot tokens ain't), and they were put in tokens. So can we please move on?
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Quote: "BCNumismatics"​The denominations can be deduced from comparing them by size to the Turkish coins that were struck at the time.

​The Turkish Lira was a hyperinflation hit currency.

​The 1984 one would be denominated at around 5,000 Lira;



​This gold one would be denominated at around 25 Million Lira;



http://www.chiefacoins.com/Database/Countries/Turkish_Republic_of_Northern_Cyprus.htm has more information.

​Aidan.

you are persistence because you have coins from there and you want them to have value or for political reasons?

because then we can open new issues for crimea or other ...



Status changed to Rejected (stratocaster, 22-Jan-2021, 07:39 am)
Hello,

There is already a currency for these.

Let's please keep them all together there.

:wiz:
Here is one dated 1990;



Commemorates 7 Years of the 'T.R.N.C.'

I don't have any medal-coins from there - but if I did, they would be depicted up on http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/BCNumismatics under 'Cyprus'.

Aidan.
Quote: "BCNumismatics"​I don't have any medal-coins from there - but if I did, they would be depicted up on http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/BCNumismatics under 'Cyprus'.

​Aidan.
​How you catalogue your collections is up to you, but here we catalogue tokens in the token section. Can we please drop this discussion now? The northern part of Cyprus is using the Turkish lira, no Chinese fantasy coins are circulating there.
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These are actually struck from gold & silver - & they were struck in Turkey at the Turkish Mint in Istanbul.

Nothing remotely Chinese struck at all about them.

Aidan.
Quote: "BCNumismatics"​These are actually struck from gold & silver - & they were struck in Turkey at the Turkish Mint in Istanbul.

​Nothing remotely Chinese struck at all about them.

​Aidan.
​Is it really that horrible for you that you own coins that are not coins? Except that they will never be added in the catalogue. Please. Move on.
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