ceh2019
Joined: 4-Jan-2019
Posts: 2417
Posted: 29-May-2022, 17:47
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Posted: 29-May-2022, 17:47
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The following notes don't appear in Pick or on Bank Note Museum.
N#274307
N#248824
N#274313
N#274323
I've seen similar pieces at fairs and, based on condition and price, assumed they were modern fantasy issues. Is anyone able to confirm this so they can be moved to Exonumia?
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
allexis
Joined: 25-Jun-2014
Posts: 1089
Posted: 3-Jun-2022, 12:23
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Posted: 3-Jun-2022, 12:23
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I've seen a dealer once having a stack of those and selling them cheap. Also the condition is always very good for a 150 years old banknote. In my opinion this are not banknotes.
ceh2019
Joined: 4-Jan-2019
Posts: 2417
Posted: 3-Jun-2022, 13:30
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Posted: 3-Jun-2022, 13:30
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I've searched on line and found packs of replica notes for sale. The images don't show the reverses but it seems highly likely this is the source for these notes. I'll request they be moved to exonumia and add comments linking to them from the notes they resemble.
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
Hibernia
Joined: 15-Nov-2021
Posts: 1976
Posted: 6-Jun-2022, 00:15
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Posted: 6-Jun-2022, 00:15
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As a collector of US notes, I have seen similar examples of these notes which were replicas. Imho, the notes in the four listings above are replicas which do not correspond to actual notes. As such, I think they should be removed from Numista listings.
rsirian1
Joined: 20-Nov-2020
Posts: 5759
Posted: 6-Jun-2022, 00:22
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Posted: 6-Jun-2022, 00:22
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They've already been moved to Exonumia catalog.
ceh2019
Joined: 4-Jan-2019
Posts: 2417
Posted: 6-Jun-2022, 10:21
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Posted: 6-Jun-2022, 10:21
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Yes, I asked for them to be moved. I think we need to keep them somewhere to warn other collectors against them. Where we have a similar real note listed I've added a link to the replica. I've just looked at the new replica page and the fact it's a replica isn't exactly prominently displayed. Can we do better for this section or should we just modify the titles to make them clearer?
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
Hibernia
Joined: 15-Nov-2021
Posts: 1976
Posted: 6-Jun-2022, 10:37
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Posted: 6-Jun-2022, 10:37
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I would suggest using the term ‘Replica’ in the title.
ceh2019
Joined: 4-Jan-2019
Posts: 2417
Posted: 6-Jun-2022, 13:14
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Posted: 6-Jun-2022, 13:14
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Most other reproductions have “(Replica)” in the title, so I've requested that be added to these.
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
pejounet
Joined: 30-Jan-2017
Posts: 4354
Posted: 6-Jun-2022, 15:53
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Posted: 6-Jun-2022, 15:53
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The replica mention in title inherited from the old listing style when we had no dedicated exonumia section but it should not be kept for long.
Now, we have a specific “Replica” category in exonumia.
A note can also be added in the general comment section “this note is a replica of…..used for educational purpose or whatever…".
And a link to original note can still go in the “See also” section.
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ceh2019
Joined: 4-Jan-2019
Posts: 2417
Posted: 6-Jun-2022, 16:20
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Posted: 6-Jun-2022, 16:20
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If the addition of “(Replica)” in the title is to be phased out, can I suggest that something is added prominently to pages in this section so that a viewer can immediately see that this is a replica?
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
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