fake or real 1852 dollar liberty head? [solved]

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fake or real 1852 dollar liberty head?

weight 1.56g diameter 13mm

Please give the link to the coin in numista? Help us to help you, please.

 

You would have found out by yourself. I know the answer, but work on it yourself, please.

Globetrotter
Coin variants in English:
https://sites.google.com/site/coinvarietiescollection/home
In French on Cobra's site (not the same)
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces6157.html

 

I don't know answer. 

I ask because legend United States of America for me looks strange, and date looks go more to left from center.

A couple of real ones with more wear than yours:

 

zipzappa

 

I ask because legend United States of America for me looks strange

Agree, plus the low weight (-7%) indicate it's not real.

accurate diameter is 13.19 mm on numista I found that must be 13mm

All the details look good to me, see additional images and info here:

https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1852-g-1/7517

Steve27

All the details look good to me, see additional images and info here:

https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1852-g-1/7517

What about legend “United States of America” looks strange worn out, and date is more to left

Round coin is NOT a fake! The oval coin is the OP's.

 

 

The position of the 1 in 1852 is influenced by the image not being round!

 

I'll try to make the OP's coin round.

Globetrotter
Coin variants in English:
https://sites.google.com/site/coinvarietiescollection/home
In French on Cobra's site (not the same)
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

Sjoelund

Round coin is NOT a fake! The oval coin is the OP's.

 

 

The position of the 1 in 1852 is influenced by the image not being round!

 

I'll try to make the OP's coin round.

Thank you for help. Its means this coin definitely fake?

Round coin is NOT a fake! The oval coin is the OP's.

 

Globetrotter
Coin variants in English:
https://sites.google.com/site/coinvarietiescollection/home
In French on Cobra's site (not the same)
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

Position of the date is irrelevant as it varied for this coin depending on the die used.  Here are two from PCGS and the OP's. Red line aligned with the vertical of the large 1:

 

 

I think what more important is the low weight and the wear of the US of A vs. the rest of the coin.  

 

Have you verified it's .900 gold?

Another analysis and that's it from my side, either the OP's coin is a variant or a fake. Not my decision, but the measurements are also a bit off!

 

Globetrotter
Coin variants in English:
https://sites.google.com/site/coinvarietiescollection/home
In French on Cobra's site (not the same)
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

do the same with this one

 

Thank you for your help. I attach better images of this my dollar, maybe this helps more to id this coin fake or not 

As I said, I've done my share and have other things to do now, so try to set up your own tools to figure out what you have?

Globetrotter
Coin variants in English:
https://sites.google.com/site/coinvarietiescollection/home
In French on Cobra's site (not the same)
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

Thanks a lot for help✌️😊

Status changed to Solved (zipzappa, 21-Jun-2022, 06:56 pm)
Topic moved to "Numismatic questions" (ZacUK, 21-Jun-2022, 09:05 pm)

zipzappa

Steve27

All the details look good to me, see additional images and info here:

https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1852-g-1/7517

What about legend “United States of America” looks strange worn out, and date is more to left

I agree the wear is unusual, but the alignment isn't bad. I've seen a lot of fake 1852-D (Dahlonega Mint) and 1852-C (Charlotte Mint) gold dollar coins, but the Philadelphia Mint coin is usually not counterfeited due to its relatively low value compared to the others.

From NGC's Top 50 Most Commonly Counterfeited U.S. Coins According to Submissions to Numismatic Guaranty Company (NGC):

 

 

13. 1853 Gold Dollar

The 1853 Gold Dollar is the first coin from the series on our list for most-seen counterfeits at NGC. This year saw the highest mintage for the entire series with some 4,076,051 pieces struck. The high mintage means that this coin is often not inspected closely, making it easier for counterfeiters to pass their fakes.

Your coin is genuine. Heavy wear can easily account for the small weight discrepency and deformation of some of the details but the important details are there and correct. As previously mentioned, this date variant is correct and should be of no concern. This coin was well used but genuine.

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