Does this look real?

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1881 Morgan Dollar for sale on Ebay.

 

Listing says it's from a house clearance.

 

Price is suspiciously low.

 

Looks Cleaned if real, I think

 

Scoliosis_Kid

Hello and welcome to numista

 

here is one from PCGS, try and figure it yourself

 

https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1881-1/7124

 

It's so much more fun to look it up like that, after all it's or will be your coin, so try to learn.

Globetrotter
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Topic moved to "Numismatic questions" (ZacUK, 2-Aug-2022, 05:26 pm)

In short, yes. It appears to be real but harshly cleaned and well circulated. The 1881 no mintmark ( indicates Philadelphia mint) is a relatively common date and there are abundant numbers of this date available, unmolested and in much nicer condition for a modest premium over melt. Personally I would not want to own this example and would wait for an opportuniy to get a better one. You didn't mention what the suspiciously low asking price was.

harryg

In short, yes. It appears to be real but harshly cleaned and well circulated. The 1881 no mintmark ( indicates Philadelphia mint) is a relatively common date and there are abundant numbers of this date available, unmolested and in much nicer condition for a modest premium over melt. Personally I would not want to own this example and would wait for an opportuniy to get a better one. You didn't mention what the suspiciously low asking price was.

Asking price is £29.99

Scoliosis_Kid

It’s cheap because it’s harshly cleaned and in low grade but for £20 more you could get one graded with AU details albeit it’s cleaned as well but not as harshly as the other listing.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/354152394095?hash=item527520ad6f:g:2a4AAOSw7JNihRVi

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Right, 30 pounds would be about right for it. Not underpriced,  just undesireable and probably could not get much more for it. I would say that these folks are just being realistic about what they have and asking for more would be folly unless they found a novice willing to overpay for it.

Sjoelund

 

It's so much more fun to look it up like that, after all it's or will be your coin, so try to learn.

In cases where the fake is obvious and the coin looks plain wrong, this is a good advice.

But here I feel this just adds to the uncertainty confusion for the non-experts. 

 

I've seen a lot of fakes that aren't obvious unless you really know that specific coin, and the consensus on this one is that it's real.

Kopeika

Sjoelund

 

It's so much more fun to look it up like that, after all it's or will be your coin, so try to learn.

In cases where the fake is obvious and the coin looks plain wrong, this is a good advice.

But here I feel this just adds to the uncertainty confusion for the non-experts. 

 

I've seen a lot of fakes that aren't obvious unless you really know that specific coin, and the consensus on this one is that it's real.

I just wonder how you become an “expert”? The coin is real, but did the OP ever look at the PCGS images to compare with his own?

Globetrotter
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Sjoelund

Kopeika

Sjoelund

 

I just wonder how you become an “expert”? 

60 years of collecting U.S. coins, including Morgan Dollars. 

Sjoelund

 

I just wonder how you become an “expert”? The coin is real, but did the OP ever look at the PCGS images to compare with his own?

Well, you need to know what to look for. Just comparing coins, when there are no obvious differences won't help anyone learn.

So tell the OP what to look for, please, I'll learn by that as well, since I'm not an expert?

Globetrotter
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Sjoelund

So tell the OP what to look for, please, I'll learn by that as well, since I'm not an expert?

Neither am I. But when I saw your post I spent 5 minutes staring at pictures of Morgans because I thought you meant that it's obviously a fake.

I never implied, that is was a fake, I just asked the OP to do, what you did. I still don't know what to look for, anyway it's difficult to see from just images, isn't it?

 

There wasn't any measurements given, as far as I remember, and when that's not the case, I simply don't even try to verify anything.

Globetrotter
Coin variants in English:
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