Standardization of the Canada catalog

Hello,

I am proud to announce that the standardization work is finally over for the Canadian catalog, both for the French and English pages (subject to confirmation). Nearly 1700 hours in total were required to achieve this. Missing fields or fields that did not comply with Numista rules have been completed and/or adjusted. The result is a catalog that is fairly complete, homogeneous and more pleasant to consult for members.

In the future, here is my list of things to improve:

1. If there are any left, identify, delete and if possible replace the photos taken on sites that have not given their authorization (including the RCM/MRC site).
2. Obtain the agreement of new sites for the use of their photo(s).
3. Adjust, for the different languages supported by Numista, the documentation found in the Comments section. There is surely a way to do better, especially since the arrival of Spanish and possibly other languages to come.
4. Due to the cessation of activities of Krause Publications in 2020, add the missing coins and new references numbers (RCM/MRC and Charlton) to the Numista catalog, with the years 2020 to 2022 in priority.
5. Then, tackle previous years, in order to have the most complete catalog possible. Numista could then claim to take an important place as a recognized reference for Canada in the same way as publications such as Charlton, Haxby etc.

Do not hesitate to participate in the replacement of the photos of point 1 and also for points 4 and 5.

Looking forward to collaborating with you on coins from the Canada issuer of the Numista catalog.

Best regards.

Edit: One year have pass and I still think RCM/MRC and Charlton unique reference numbers for individual coins were a great (if not a must) addition to this catalog…  if members use them the proper way. Meaning SETS reference numbers should not be added to the Reference number section for an individual coin. We should only add these SETS reference numbers as a complementary info in the Comments section (indicating that the coin is part of the listed SETS). As you would do for any other SETS in any reference system (Krause included). A list of SETS (with RCM/MRC reference numbers) and mintage for each SET in the Comments section is very valuable info for coin collectors (waiting for Numista to propose a long waited for (over 7 years) solution for SETS).

Awesome work, you have done a fantastic job - Well done.

Mike

brismike

Awesome work, you have done a fantastic job - Well done.

 

Mike

Thanks Mike. 

I would like to add I couldn't have done it without the great support and advices from Pejounet. He was there to answer my questions and promptly responded to my change requests when I needed him to do so. His positive vibes help me to go the distance.

Xavier was also present to help with the OBSERVE text review and standardization (in both languages). 

This is what a collaboration site is all about.

Best regards,

Both Charlton & Haxby & Willey's numbers should be used for Canadian coins.

There is a new edition of Haxby & Willey's catalogue of Canadian coins.

Charlton comes in both English & French editions.

Aidan.

BCNumismatics

Both Charlton & Haxby & Willey's numbers should be used for Canadian coins.

 

There is a new edition of Haxby & Willey's catalogue of Canadian coins.

 

Charlton comes in both English & French editions.

 

Aidan.

Someone took my Haxby reference book and never brought it back.  😮‍💨

Personally, I invested enough time and money in entering the RCM and Charlton references numbers (on top of KM numbers). I think we cover all the Canadian coins with these 3 references.

But, if you, or someone else, want to add the Haxby reference numbers on top of all the existing ones, be my guest. It's not on my list of things to do for 2023. If you decide to go ahead and enter Haxby reference numbers, I will collaborate by promptly approving your change requests.

Best regards,

lol, I hope you can keep up with the rate at which the RCM spams the market with commemorative and bullion coins

I don't have any of the Canadian catalogues - as the postage costs from Canada to New Zealand is probably huge for books.

Aidan.

If I may through a wrench in the works, Krause is slowly updating their catalog on their website: numismaster.com. The website is quite buggy and not user friendly, so my condolences if you decide to add the new KM numbers to your corner of the catalog.

Great achivement! Canada is one of those issuers where I have nearly zero requests any time. :)

Also, you might be interested in this: https://en.numista.com/forum/topic126876.html as you have a lot of experience with repetitive changes.

Great job! Canada section looks amazing, with the series added, standarized titles, full description and details.

Personally, I dislike only one thing: multiple references from RCM… it seems that these reference numbers are not for a specific coin but this is RCM sales product number. Example where one coin is listed under 5 different references because it's sold in 5 different packages/sets:

Number N# 336633

References: RCM/MRC# 204038, RCM/MRC# 205217, RCM/MRC# 206289, RCM/MRC# 206287, RCM/MRC# 206286

Québécois, I need to find the longer while and the box with my Canadian coins to update some small pictures by new ones. I still have a lot of them on the “Contribute” list but I have a long list of other things to fix in my (BVI & Alderney) and some other issuers so I put Canada little lower on my queue list.

MMowiec

 

Personally, I dislike only one thing: multiple references from RCM… it seems that these reference numbers are not for a specific coin but this is RCM sales product number. Example where one coin is listed under 5 different references because it's sold in 5 different packages/sets:

Number N# 336633

References: RCM/MRC# 204038, RCM/MRC# 205217, RCM/MRC# 206289, RCM/MRC# 206287, RCM/MRC# 206286

 

I agree with you this is not an ideal situation. The goal was to return the info about a coin to a member doing a search with a RCM number. We don't know witch number (or product number) he will use because we don't know where his coin is coming from. Since the RCM doesn't attribute a unique number to each coin and it doesn't attribute circulation coins numbers either (they do for sets or special packaging). I don't see what else we can do. 

That's why I also entered the Charlton reference numbers and KM number as well when possible.

Maybe we should all send a complaint to the RCM and request for unique numbers to be used from now on even for circulation coins. 🤔

I hope this explanation is clear enough.

Best regards,

Please get rid of the RCM numbers.

Haxby & Willey catalogue numbers would be better to use instead.

Of course, Charlton & K.M. numbers should be kept.

Aidan.

BCNumismatics

Please get rid of the RCM numbers.

 

Haxby & Willey catalogue numbers would be better to use instead.

 

Of course, Charlton & K.M. numbers should be kept.

 

Aidan.

Removing RCM numbers won't do any good in my views. Any member can get on the RCM web site with his product number and he might find the information he's looking for about his coin. If you don't own a Haxby & Willey or a Charlton catalog it's nice to have at least the RCM web site to verify a coin existence and infos. 

Again, be my guest and enter Haxby & Willey numbers, I will promptly approuve your requests.

Regards,

P.S. Since you seem to be such a big fan of Haxby & Willey, you can get the reference book shipped to Australia for under 20$ AUD with Canada Post.

I am in New Zealand - not Australia.

You should buy the French language edition of Haxby & Willey's catalogue.

Aidan.

BCNumismatics

I am in New Zealand - not Australia.

 

You should buy the French language edition of Haxby & Willey's catalogue.

 

Aidan.

Got one in the past, found out Charlton was better for me. Why should I buy a new one apart to please you ?

If you want one, it's the same shipping price for Australia and New Zealand, around 20.61$ NZD

https://www.canadapost-postescanada.ca/information/app/far/business/findARate?execution=e1s3

If you want, you can transfer money to me and I will buy one and ship it to you.

Regards,

Hello,

I just added the 2500th coin for the Canadian issuer (RCM).

2023 will be the year I will start adding missing coins into the Numista catalog since Krause Publication is not really doing it anymore (years 2020 and up to start).

Anyone wanting to participate is welcome.

Best regards,

Québécois

Hello,

 

I just added the 2500th coin for the Canadian issuer (RCM).

 

2023 will be the year I will start adding missing coins into the Numista catalog since Krause Publication is not really doing it anymore (years 2020 and up to start).

 

Anyone wanting to participate is welcome.

 

Best regards,

Krause is still adding new reference numbers, albeit on their website: https://numismaster.com/

The KM#s are up to date for Canada here.  https://numismaster.com/?id=-10012282&advancedsearch=true&pageno=1

Beekeeper

The KM#s are up to date for Canada here.  https://numismaster.com/?id=-10012282&advancedsearch=true&pageno=1

Only 123 coin (results) for 2022. MRC web site indicate more. Same for 2021 and 2020. To me, it's not a reliable and complete source anymore.

I really don't like their web interface maybe because I'm more a paper guy. 😉

Best regards,

MMowiec

Personally, I dislike only one thing: multiple references from RCM… it seems that these reference numbers are not for a specific coin but this is RCM sales product number. Example where one coin is listed under 5 different references because it's sold in 5 different packages/sets:

Number N# 336633

References: RCM/MRC# 204038, RCM/MRC# 205217, RCM/MRC# 206289, RCM/MRC# 206287, RCM/MRC# 206286

I agree, I just discovered this “reference catalogue” and suggest his deletion here.
I'd love to read the arguments which led to his creation in the first place?

https://www.mint.ca/en/shop/coins/2020/2020-annual-collection-book-masters-club-version

Charlton, witch in my view is THE reference book for Canada, is also using the RCM/MRC reference numbers in their reference books. They only issue a Ch number when there is no RCM/MRC number (usually for circulation or bullions coins).

Is the comment section included when members do a search ?

Since Numista has no solutions for sets, sets reference numbers (with the mintage info) should be kept only into the comment section. Until then, can the info be recopied in the comment section, so we don't loose this valuable information ?

Big Mac

https://www.mint.ca/en/shop/coins/2020/2020-annual-collection-book-masters-club-version

These codes are for this brochure, is it what you mean? 

Brilliant work, the Canada catalogue looks superb. 

Yes, job done by Quebecois is great! This is huge lost for Numista that he is no more Canada's referee.

For the RCM numbers put as a references, I already wrote that this was little strange to put multiple references for one coin… with missing KM# numbers (or big delay with adding new KM# by Krauze/numismaster) the adding RCM numbers was a good idea for collector/commemorative coins. Few years ago, these coins were issued individually in card (series with 25c wedding/Birthday etc, 25c & 1$ NHL and many other) or in annual/gift set, so this worked quite well - one coin, one RCM product number granted to the commemorative coin - this allowed to easily find the info about the coin on RCM website. Problem starter recently when RCM issued one coin in multiple sets.

With multiple RCM numbers: visability and simplicity suffer, so I think this can be kept only in comments section (it is there anyway). When only one RCM numbers avaliable, I would prefer to keep it.

Big Mac

Is the comment section included when members do a search ?

The answer is yes, the comment section is included. (It was easy to verify, you could have done that yourself before posting.)

bjherbison

Big Mac

Is the comment section included when members do a search ?

The answer is yes, the comment section is included. (It was easy to verify, you could have done that yourself before posting.)

A general search but not a search for reference number.

Coming late to this thread and to congratulate Québécois for his amazing work and dedication. 

And, as HouseofHam points out, with a Mint that spams the market in the area of bullion and NCLT, it was quite a challenge to get this far.