Artists (Engraver and Designer) [solved]

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Hello,

 

Would it possible to have an interactive liste of gravers and designers (all together) like we have for printers?

This way in 1 clic you can see all items related to 1 artist.

It will be a new nice feature that would bring a bit more of interactivity in order to improve user experience.

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Hello,

I agree that's really needed. It would be great also to have a biography for each artist.

Status changed to Accepted (Xavier, 21-Aug-2023, 02:34 pm)

Xavier

Hello,

I agree that's really needed. It would be great also to have a biography for each artist.

We already have the little presentation text and the link to Wikipedia.

 

This list will also help to make a cleanup of the current situation.

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Status changed to Implemented (dzmitry.huletski, 6-Mar-2024, 05:02 pm)

Hello,

We now have a list of artist :)

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/artists.php

Woww, great improvement, one more. Congratulations and thank you!!! 😍

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Banknote referee for: Spain and Andorra

Great !

The artist below is link to a coin but this coin doesn’t show up on his page is it normal?

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/artist.php?id=487

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 In that link 

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/artist.php?id=487 

at the end it reads 

… a face value of 100,000 lei. 

 which should be a capital letter [see page below] 

… a face value of 100,000 Lei. 

 

 On the actual coin page mentioned 

N#4613 

the obverse designer is a different name and goes to a page, 

but yes the different reverse designer link goes nowhere. 

The artist has links to Wikipedia in different languages. For example, this artist https://en.numista.com/catalogue/artist.php?id=724 has links in EN, RU and UK.

 

If the language of the Numista interface has a Wikipedia link, this is displayed and works. For example:

 

But if there is not a Wikipedia link in the language of the Numista interface, all Wikipedia links are displayed but they do nor work (there are HTML errors in the Wikipedia links). For example:

Wanted & swap list (euro coins & world coins, exonumia and banknotes circulated) https://goo.gl/AQjfKp - I have euro & world CC coins for swap.

 What do we do if we find just a name on a page, but it is not a link? 

Engraver: Thomas Bernard 

N#235173 

 Just one example. 

 

Edit - Is there a way to search, using that example - 

where a name is given but no link? 

 This has a page but it links to no items. 

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/artist.php?id=1455 

ZacUK

 This has a page but it links to no items. 

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/artist.php?id=1455 

This does not have Wikipedia link (see the Wikidata link). I am sure this is related with the bug I reported above: https://en.numista.com/forum/topic135571.html#p1141130

 

Edit: There are not links to items because we do not have any here.

Wanted & swap list (euro coins & world coins, exonumia and banknotes circulated) https://goo.gl/AQjfKp - I have euro & world CC coins for swap.

 Putting a name in the filter brings up a few results - yet after clicking one then 

going back a page the results are no longer shown. 

 

 Example - of the nine results 

 

 I clicked on the sixth, then on top left of the page clicked the back arrow, to get this 

 

 with the name still in the search box, but an alphabetical list below. Annoying. 

 Actually that list of nine should be ten 

https://en.numista.com/forum/topic140410.html#p1132199 

 where the second item on there is  Wolf Lauffer III  

so how does an engraver page get created? Yes I have not 

made a page yet for the item shown on there. 

I published this a few days ago in the translators forum (we have this advantage: we see the news before other Numista members 😁😛).

 

When we create a request, the most of labels has the same wording (see open a new ticket):
 

requesting the creation or the modification of a…
 

But for artist is:
 

suggesting the introduction for an engraver or a designer

 

Finally, In Spanish I used the majority wording.

 

Edit: This was done.

Wanted & swap list (euro coins & world coins, exonumia and banknotes circulated) https://goo.gl/AQjfKp - I have euro & world CC coins for swap.

I literally have a list of 120 artist that I register little by little :-)

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Dick Johnson did a lot of work on identifying Coin and Medal artists. His website is still up and running although he passed away in December 2020. Not sure how long this information will be available. There are some other pages on the website with no links to them that have a ton of information.

https://www.medalartists.com/

https://www.medalartists.com/a-b1.html

https://www.medalartists.com/c-f1.html

https://www.medalartists.com/g-i1.html

 

Most of his work was identifying the initials or marks artist used and attributing coins and medals to them. With the names but not how they mark their work help Numista members identify them? Some artist and engravers changed how their initials were on different items. Here is a page from his book (Monograms of American Coin and Medal Artists) about Victor David Brenner and how he marked some of his work. Looking at the links above, many initials are repeated for different artists. Some artists got married and their last names changed as well as their marks. Such as Anna Vaughn Hyatt Huntington. So, using the “other marks” on the date line will not assist in identifying the exact artist as the list grows, will it?

 

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davidhs

if there is not a Wikipedia link in the language of the Numista interface, all Wikipedia links are displayed but they do nor work (there are HTML errors in the Wikipedia links). For example:

Thank you, it's fixed.

Just a sugestion for the Wikipedia links.

Can I suggest a different layout for a better reading?

 

Also in the french text you are missing the space before the : In Voir aussi and Wikipedia.

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ZacUK

 where the second item on there is  Wolf Lauffer III  

He is now on the list

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The display of the Wikipedia links varies according to the following 3 scenarios:

  • If a Wikipedia link exists in the language you are currently browsing Numista in, then we just show that single Wikipedia link as “Wikipedia”. We assume you prefer continue reading in the same language and we don't show potential other Wikipedia links in other languages. See for example: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/artist.php?id=159
  • If a Wikipedia link exists in only one language, which is different from your Numista language, then we show it as “Wikipedia (XX)” where XX is the language code. This way you have clue that you will go to a page in a different language. See for example: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/artist.php?id=36 
  • If a Wikipedia link exists in multiple languages but not in your Numista language , then we show them all as “Wikipedia: [XX], [YY], [ZZ]” where XX, YY, and ZZ are the languages of the Wikipedia articles. See for example: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/artist.php?id=601 

 

For this last case, I don't see a reason why we should set [EN] apart from the other languages. I believe it's good to show all the languages and let the user choose their preferred language.

If an artist has not any item here, the system does not say nothing, like this case:

ZacUK

 This has a page but it links to no items. 

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/artist.php?id=1455 

Maybe can be displayed a message: No item found.

Wanted & swap list (euro coins & world coins, exonumia and banknotes circulated) https://goo.gl/AQjfKp - I have euro & world CC coins for swap.

Xavier

The display of the Wikipedia links varies according to the following 3 scenarios:

  • If a Wikipedia link exists in the language you are currently browsing Numista in, then we just show that single Wikipedia link as “Wikipedia”. We assume you prefer continue reading in the same language and we don't show potential other Wikipedia links in other languages. See for example: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/artist.php?id=159
  • If a Wikipedia link exists in only one language, which is different from your Numista language, then we show it as “Wikipedia (XX)” where XX is the language code. This way you have clue that you will go to a page in a different language. See for example: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/artist.php?id=36 
  • If a Wikipedia link exists in multiple languages but not in your Numista language , then we show them all as “Wikipedia: [XX], [YY], [ZZ]” where XX, YY, and ZZ are the languages of the Wikipedia articles. See for example: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/artist.php?id=601 

 

For this last case, I don't see a reason why we should set [EN] apart from the other languages. I believe it's good to show all the languages and let the user choose their preferred language.

Fine then, I thought I was in English when I made the print screen therefore I didn’t understood why it was all together.

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Indomini16

The artist below is link to a coin but this coin doesn’t show up on his page is it normal?

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/artist.php?id=487

This is fixed :)

Perfect, a last question, why do we have the wikipedia titel without link here?

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Also this one give no results, but can be find.

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Indomini16

Also this one give no results, but can be find.

The name needs to be an exact match (same accents). I fixed this case by changing the name in the artist database from “Felix Jacquin” to “Félix Jacquin”

The name needs to be an exact match (same accents). I fixed this case by changing the name in the artist database from “Felix Jacquin” to “Félix Jacquin”

Ok, noted!

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There is a display problem on this page:

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The issue was due to different capitalization between the artist in database (Joseph de La Nézière) and the artist on the pages (Joseph de La Nézière). It's fixed: capitalization is now ignored to select the picture.

Xavier

Hello,

We now have a list of artist :)

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/artists.php

This is super cool - Thanks Xavier.

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