Numista token design contest

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Xavier Site admin

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Posted: 29-Sep-2013, 02:53PM

Hello everyone!

The idea of a token to celebrate Numista and its community got some good feedback. So it has been decided to make two versions, one in silver and the other in alloy. They both will have the same design and they will be 30 mm large.
Now we can go to the next step

The contest for design of the future Numista token is now launched!

Instructions
- You can freely choose the design, as long as it is related to Numista.
- The coin should have "Numista" as lettering.
- If there are any other lettering, they should be both in English and French.
- If you use other pictures for the design, make sure you have the rights to use them for this project.

Design submission deadline
October 20th, 2013

How to participate?
Send me your design by PM with the title "Numista token design contest" before the deadline.
You can post your draft on this topic to get advices and opinions about your design.
The selected design will be arranged by a professional who will sculpt the model in relief.
You accept to give the ownership of the design to Numista for using it for the token.

Selection of the design
The design will be selected through two steps:
- Jedsada and me will make a selection of the 5 best designs
- Members will vote among the 5 selected design to choose the best one.

Reward
The author of the selected design will win:
- the joy of having his/her design on a token with a mintage of several hundred pieces

- the two versions of the token for free

Xavier Site admin

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Posted: 29-Sep-2013, 03:03PM

In additon to the "official" instructions, here are a few suggestions.

It would be good to illustrate some of the values of Numista: sharing, conviviality, exchange, knowledge, etc.

Why not add a motto. I really enjoy this sentence from @josephjk, which was posted on the forum some time ago: "Took my collection to a different level!" But the translation to French is uneasy...

Of course the coin aspect should be represented too. You could show some coins or some traditional motifs of coins: wreath, busts, etc.

ALLRED1950

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Posted: 29-Sep-2013, 05:21PM

This is not all me. But I like the French franc with Numista on it. Maybe hands holding coins all the way around. Not good at drawing things not on paper.

It is, what it is.

dptashny

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Posted: 29-Sep-2013, 10:20PM

A simple design, perhaps there could be another side, but there doesn't have to be.

dptashny

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Posted: 29-Sep-2013, 10:23PM

A possible reverse:

dptashny

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Posted: 29-Sep-2013, 10:24PM

The reverse(?) of the silver version:

Walder Coins

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Posted: 29-Sep-2013, 11:01PM

Will the final five designs be displayed with or without the artists name?

Also is there a limit on how many designs an individual can submit?

dptashny

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Posted: 30-Sep-2013, 12:13AM

Actually, I think the obverse and reverse should be included.

Frenchlover

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Posted: 30-Sep-2013, 02:11PM

your criticism of this design are welcome.

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glorkar

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Posted: 30-Sep-2013, 02:52PM

@Frenchlover - I love the side with the continents, but I think the translation is somewhat off on the text. It just doesn't sound right. And I don't know, I think the owl is a little too specific of an image. I look at that and think it's a Greek token.

@dptashny - I like the pile of coins, but the details would need to be sharper. It just looks a little cloudy or something. And the reverse is nice using the Numista script, but again, the French coin (even though it's part of the logo) is a little too country specific. I know the site started off French, but it's global now, so the token should be too.

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Frenchlover

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Posted: 30-Sep-2013, 06:51PM

we'll let the owl fly away

Design evolution :

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Frenchlover

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Posted: 30-Sep-2013, 09:21PM

Just a little explanation on my design.

On the English side, there is the concept of the "village".
In English, it is really the community, sharing, friendliness, mutual aid.
In short, everything that the U.S. would want to find in the Greenwich Village ...

And "The village" is unique.

On the other side, it's in French.
How to translate "world coins" in French ...

"Parts of currency of the world".

It's too long ... so long my dear ...

and even the idea of the village is not the same in France. It is a little outdated ...

In French, it's more "the world of world currency" that reflects this idea. But there is repetition.
So the "The world of currency" (Le monde des pièces de monnaie) " is more appropriate in French. And even better:
"A whole world of currency" (Tout un monde de pièces")
would be totally appropriate, but it is really too French speaking...

For the handshake is the usability but also a "good deal", a "good swap", which is why I came to Numista !

I think as glorkar that it is not necessary to stipulate that Numista was originally French.

Frankly, the word "Coins" in many languages would be more appropriate than a simple translation in French. The word "Coins" in Russian, in Chinese, in Sinhala (it's too fine), etc ... all around the reverse face of the coins should be appropriate.

The principle of competition is to find a concept that fits to all of us.

You can make virtual coins here:
http://www.onlinewahn.de/generator/m-maker.htm
Go to bottom of page and you can design your coin. Google translate will help if you don't understand German

But even an good idea, a picture and a slogan would fit.

Numista will find someone who plays well with photoshop to finalize the design.

Don't worry and submit your design
Thanks

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Faële

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Posted: 30-Sep-2013, 09:33PM

Quote: Frenchlover.../...

I think as glorkar that it is not necessary to stipulate that Numista was originally French.

.../...

The principle of competition is to find a concept that fits to all of us.

I agree with him

dptashny

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Posted: 1-Oct-2013, 03:48AM

I like this reverse better than my first one. What do you guys say?

Frenchlover

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Posted: 1-Oct-2013, 08:17AM

And the Token should be dated !

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Frenchlover

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Posted: 2-Oct-2013, 08:26AM

This website even better for coin design:
http://theworldofcoins.com/en/

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szmata

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Posted: 5-Oct-2013, 12:05PM

Quote: Frenchloverwe'll let the owl fly away

Design evolution :

I love this

The only restriction : the French translation is too long in my opinion...Maybe " Le monde des monnaies"...but in this case it is not obvious that only coins are involved (and not banknotes)...

Good idea anyway

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Frenchlover

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Posted: 5-Oct-2013, 03:21PM

T'as eu la Belge 2013?

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Posted: 5-Oct-2013, 03:40PM

What happened to the llamas ?

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Posted: 5-Oct-2013, 06:20PM

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szmata

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Posted: 5-Oct-2013, 07:31PM

Quote: FrenchloverT'as eu la Belge 2013?

Yes, of course

Oui, bien sûr

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Xavier Site admin

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Posted: 7-Oct-2013, 03:45PM

Quote: Walder CoinsWill the final five designs be displayed with or without the artists name?

Without, but you wil probably be able to guess from the forum.

Quote: Walder CoinsAlso is there a limit on how many designs an individual can submit?

No limit

Quote: FrenchloverAnd the Token should be dated !

Sure, it would be better to have the date.

el182592

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Posted: 9-Oct-2013, 02:02PM

Quote: Xavier
Quote: Walder CoinsWill the final five designs be displayed with or without the artists name?
Without, but you wil probably be able to guess from the forum.

Quote: Walder CoinsAlso is there a limit on how many designs an individual can submit?
No limit

Quote: FrenchloverAnd the Token should be dated !
Sure, it would be better to have the date.

Hi,

Only talking about the design? I saw only shape=ROUND design! No other suggestions?

And what about the (mine suggestion) :
Value 1 Ounce (1)
Metal Copper (.999) & Silver (.999)
Weight 31.107 g
Diameter 32.69 mm
Thickness ?? mm -> Depends on Weight/Diameter and Shape!
Shape Round
Orientation Medal alignment ↑↑

With regards.
Bert.
Netherlands.

peterkhull

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Posted: 10-Oct-2013, 12:25AM

First draft: Click the image to view at full resolution.

OBV

REV

In silver:

OBV

REV

Also, my thought is that the 'N' on the reverse would be in the same font as the 'N' in Numista on the main page. I didn't bother looking around though, just wanted to get the idea together before it escaped me. I also thought integrating the globe into the rim of the coin could be a good idea. That is, the land of the continents would be raised like the rim of the coin and would be seamless. The ocean part of the globe would be indented and the rim would be raised where it connects to the ocean. I'm open to all suggestions.

PKH

el182592

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Posted: 10-Oct-2013, 03:34AM

Quote: peterkhullFirst draft: Click the image to view at full resolution.

OBV

REV

In silver:

OBV

REV

Also, my thought is that the 'N' on the reverse would be in the same font as the 'N' in Numista on the main page. I didn't bother looking around though, just wanted to get the idea together before it escaped me. I also thought integrating the globe into the rim of the coin could be a good idea. That is, the land of the continents would be raised like the rim of the coin and would be seamless. The ocean part of the globe would be indented and the rim would be raised where it connects to the ocean. I'm open to all suggestions.

Why ROUND-shape??

Using for example this shape!

With regards.
Bert.
Netherlands.

Walder Coins

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Posted: 10-Oct-2013, 11:56AM

It's a cost issue, round is cheaper.

ngdawa

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Posted: 11-Oct-2013, 11:00PM

I thought something like this:

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szmata

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Posted: 11-Oct-2013, 11:03PM

Quote: ngdawaI though something like this:

Don't forget that the inscriptions should be in English and in French

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bam777

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Posted: 11-Oct-2013, 11:27PM

I don't believe it...someone has taken my slogan idea! But...great minds think alike.

ngdawa

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Posted: 12-Oct-2013, 04:15PM

To complete my first essay/test, here's both obverse and reverse:

ngdawa

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Posted: 12-Oct-2013, 04:30PM

And a brass version of my both proposals:

TYPE 1)

TYPE 2)

smoked_caramel

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Posted: 12-Oct-2013, 04:44PM

ngdawa, I like the first one. One little improvement though - distribute the *** more evenly across the empty space between the words.

ZuluRaptorSpace

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Posted: 12-Oct-2013, 05:09PM

Are we going to vote?

bennycunha97

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Posted: 12-Oct-2013, 09:27PM

I have an idea, it's not much, and I have no ideas for the reverse, but here it is

ngdawa

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Posted: 13-Oct-2013, 08:56PM

Quote: bennycunha97I have an idea, it's not much, and I have no ideas for the reverse, but here it is

Maybe it's better with "One World" than "A World"?

ngdawa

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Posted: 13-Oct-2013, 08:57PM

Quote: smoked_caramelngdawa, I like the first one. One little improvement though - distribute the *** more evenly across the empty space between the words.

Yeah I noticed that too, will try to fix that. Thanks!

Faële

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Posted: 14-Oct-2013, 08:20PM

Quote: ngdawaTo complete my first essay/test, here's both obverse and reverse:

I like this one

szmata

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Posted: 14-Oct-2013, 08:48PM

Quote: Faële
Quote: ngdawaTo complete my first essay/test, here's both obverse and reverse:

I like this one

I like this

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Frenchlover

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Posted: 17-Oct-2013, 01:54PM

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15turtles

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Posted: 17-Oct-2013, 04:26PM

Hey everyone,

What is the official motto for Numista in English?

I know in French it is Votre collection des pieces en ligne.

Thanks.

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ngdawa

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Posted: 17-Oct-2013, 05:10PM

Quote: 15turtlesHey everyone,

What is the official motto for Numista in English?

I know in French it is Votre collection des pieces en ligne.

Thanks.

It should be something like: Your coin collection online, I guess.

15turtles

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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 12:51AM

Hello Everyone,

Ignore color please, when its actually struck, its only matte and cameo.

Designwise, how is it?

Thanks,

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ngdawa

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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 12:10PM

I reckon it feels too French with The Sower on the reverse. Shouldn't it be more "neutral"?

derf

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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 12:32PM

Quote: szmataI though something like this:

Quote: ngdawaDon't forget that the inscriptions should be in English and in French

Why... !!! If the slogan or motto is going to be " Swap with the World ", that's international, and the international language is English.

The way it looks to me is, Numista is actually two sites... One International and one French. Have two Tokens....

? Format Format Format ? ?
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szmata

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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 12:39PM

Quote: derfHave two Tokens....

Why 2 tokens?

Why do you want to separate the French-speaking members and the English-speaking members?

There is only one site, called "Numista" and created in France by Xavier.

One coin or token is enough and I don't see any reason why it could not be in 2 languages.

French is also an international language used in many countries of Europa, Africa...and also America.

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ngdawa

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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 01:24PM

I see it like this: We make two token, but put them together! One side is for the English speaking members (or rather the non French speakers), and the other side if for the French speaking members. If/Since each side have different layout, we basically have two Tokens, but "united" with each other, right?

derf

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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 01:34PM

Quote: szmata
Quote: derfHave two Tokens....
Why 2 tokens?

Why do you want to separate the French-speaking members and the English-speaking members?

There is only one site, called "Numista" and created in France by Xavier.

One coin or token is enough and I don't see any reason why it could not be in 2 languages.

French is also an international language used in many countries of Europa, Africa...and also America.

Looks like a nerve was struck, mon ami ..!!

1)    I did not say that "I wanted to separate", they are separated.

2a) If there is only one site then why is the two URLs .. ??
       a) https://en.numista.com
       b) https://fr.numista.com (if that isn't separated, tell me what is)

2b) What does it matter where it was created and by whom, as to what languages are used.. ?

2c) Whenever the French portion is referred to it's: "Look on the French Site"

3) Then why not German, Spanish, Dutch or any one of the many other languages.. ?

4) Sorry, French lost it's international language status a long time ago... But go to any learning institute that teaches languages (outside of France) and they specifically state that English is the only international language. By your example so is Spanish, Portuguese, Russian and several other languages that are spoken in different countries around the globe.

Besides, if you weren't wearing your Paris Frenchness on your cuff, you would have comprehended that I was only making an observation, due to the statement that the token "SHOULD" be in English and French.

Take a chill pill and relax .........

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szmata

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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 01:51PM

Quote: derf
Quote: szmataI though something like this:
Quote: ngdawaDon't forget that the inscriptions should be in English and in French
Why... !!! If the slogan or motto is going to be " Swap with the World ", that's international, and the international language is English.

The way it looks to me is, Numista is actually two sites... One International and one French. Have two Tokens....

I was also only making an observation.

No more comments.

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Frenchlover

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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 02:00PM

Quote: 15turtlesDesignwise, how is it?

The troll of the obverse face is very nice

The reverse face seems to me a little bit too French for a worldwide coin

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15turtles

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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 02:43PM

I just thought the sower was more of a representation of Numista, and not that much to France in this case.

The Numista symbol on the top right.

EDIT** I know that la semeuse is a symbol that strongly represents France, but this is used in another sense, if you may.

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ngdawa

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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 05:39PM

Quote: 15turtlesI just thought the sower was more of a representation of Numista, and not that much to France in this case.

The Numista symbol on the top right.

EDIT** I know that la semeuse is a symbol that strongly represents France, but this is used in another sense, if you may.

Of course the Sower (or le semeuse, if you'd like) could be a symbol representing the Numista Community, but then, the logo of this website IS a French 1 Franc coin. The same with the owl we had earlier. Of course an owl could be neutral, but I reckon that most of us the owl and the Sower leads our thoughts to Greece and France. Or am I wrong?

15turtles

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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 06:40PM

Not wrong, just saying why I choose that design even though la semeuse has strong links to France.

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Evelynn

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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 11:34PM

Great job everyone. I am glad I am not a judge, they are all so good.
Personally I think we should use Frenchlover's icon (kidding).

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marcel.jung

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Posted: 19-Oct-2013, 01:26PM

Quote: ngdawaAnd a brass version of my both proposals:

TYPE 1)

TYPE 2)

In my opinion, the best possibility would be to give away the main picture from the reverse of "Type 2" and give there the main picture from the reverse of "Type 1" /the coins/ instead of it. Than it would be the best design so far /as I think/.

marcel.jung

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Posted: 19-Oct-2013, 01:31PM

By the way - who is the founder of Numista? Maybe it would be good to make the token with his head and name on one side /and information "The founder of Numista" in both languages/;-)

bam777

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Posted: 19-Oct-2013, 01:38PM

Dear All,

I have thought long and hard about my design entry. This is what I have come up with. What do you all think? I really would like to win this competition so I'd like it if you could share your sentiments on the token via PM to me!

The obverse Italian inspired with an androgynous face inspecting a coin.

The reverse UK inspired from the 1973 EEC coin, this time with hands exchanging different types of coins with Numista in the centre and a non descript pile of coins. The lettering Exchange without borders and the French echanges sans frontiers.

marcel.jung

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Posted: 19-Oct-2013, 01:43PM

Quote: bam777Dear All,

I have thought long and hard about my design entry. This is what I have come up with. What do you all think? I really would like to win this competition so I'd like it if you could share your sentiments on the token via PM to me!

The obverse Italian inspired with an androgynous face inspecting a coin.

The reverse UK inspired from the 1973 EEC coin, this time with hands exchanging different types of coins with Numista in the centre and a non descript pile of coins. The lettering Exchange without borders and the French echanges sans frontiers.

Well, it's great ;-) Maybe even better than the one about which I have spoken a couple of minutes ago ;-)

Faële

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Posted: 19-Oct-2013, 03:45PM

à bam777

Waou ! Tu dessines vraiment bien !
C'est du beau boulot . Et très joli résultat pour ce jeton Numista.

to bam777

Wow ! You draw very well !
It's a beautiful work ! And very good result for this Numista token.

ngdawa

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Posted: 19-Oct-2013, 06:55PM

It's a very nice design, and I think that all of us who had made an design are eager to win

But, it still feels like it's an Italian token. My first thoughts was drawn to Italy. We have earlier declared to make a neutral token, since we've had some French inspired designs.

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Posted: 19-Oct-2013, 10:39PM

Magnific Ben

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15turtles

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Posted: 20-Oct-2013, 03:07AM

Beautiful design Ben. Awesome!

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Posted: 20-Oct-2013, 03:37AM

Quote: bam777Dear All,

I have thought long and hard about my design entry. This is what I have come up with. What do you all think?

Beats the pants off of my design. I'm just paving the road for your win...

Frenchlover

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Posted: 20-Oct-2013, 10:35AM

thank you for your contribution

, humor is an option that no one had picked up so far

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torontokuba

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Posted: 20-Oct-2013, 05:07PM

Really, I thought you were first with the humor on coins. Nice breasts!

dptashny

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Posted: 20-Oct-2013, 05:36PM

I am about to submit some more designs, I hope the submission isn't over!

Xavier Site admin

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Posted: 21-Oct-2013, 02:50PM

Hello,

The deadline is now over. Here are the list of members who sent me a design. I also added the designs from the members who only posted their (complete and valid) design on the forum.

15turtles
annozi.frizi
bam777
dptashny
Faële
Fataghost
filipe_slb
Frenchlover
guard
KAISERKILLERfr08
mucuu
ngdawa
papi
peterkhull
robert_
wam80
Xavier

If you missed the deadline but still want to participate, please contact me very quickly.
The 5 selected designs will be announced and undergo a vote soon.

ngdawa

Joined: 18-Oct-2011
Posts: 4043

Posted: 21-Oct-2013, 03:34PM

Quote: XavierHello,

The deadline is now over. Here are the list of members who sent me a design. I also added the designs from the members who only posted their (complete and valid) design on the forum.

15turtles
annozi.frizi
bam777
dptashny
Faële
Fataghost
filipe_slb
Frenchlover
guard
KAISERKILLERfr08
mucuu
ngdawa
papi
peterkhull
robert_
wam80
Xavier

If you missed the deadline but still want to participate, please contact me very quickly.
The 5 selected designs will be announced and undergo a vote soon.

X-I-TED!!

torontokuba

Joined: 8-May-2011
Posts: 1255

Posted: 21-Oct-2013, 05:05PM

Quote: XavierI also added the designs from the members who only posted their (complete and valid) design on the forum.

Of course, no worries, you won't hear from me over that correct decision.

15turtles

Joined: 26-Mar-2012
Posts: 1129

Posted: 21-Oct-2013, 05:45PM

Lots of competition!

University is time consuming, cherish your free time!

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

Xavier Site admin

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Posts: 5289

Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 05:57AM

The designs that look like real submissions but were only posted on the forum have been considered because I don't want to penalize those who didn't understand they should send me a PM. Some members thought it was enough to post on the forum. I have contacted them to check if they want to participate or not before making the selection of the 5 designs for the next step.

Xavier Site admin

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Posts: 5289

Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 06:07AM

Thank to all the participants who submitted a design. We received a total of 22 designs and many of them were very good!

Jedsada and me chose the 5 designs we prefer:

by bam777

by Faële

by KAISERKILLERfr08

by peterkhull

by ngdawa

As I can't judge for my own design, we didn't include it for the choice of the 5 designs, so members will vote to choose the best design among 6 designs: the 5 selected designs and mine.

by me

The vote will be open later today and will run until November 3.

Xavier Site admin

Joined: 16-Jan-2007
Posts: 5289

Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 08:33AM

You can vote now!

torontokuba

Joined: 8-May-2011
Posts: 1255

Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 05:17PM

Quote: XavierAs I can't judge for my own design, we didn't include it for the choice of the 5 designs, so members will vote to choose the best design among 6 designs: the 5 selected designs and mine.

by me

That's ok, I'll judge it for you. Your coin tree design is even more jumbled up than the Numista banner. You take away the colour and detail of every coin on your tree and you get a tree with circles.

Many of the designs have just too much detail to show off on a tiny token, unless you're planning on a 38mm+ diameter. This design has to be practical and possible to duplicate through a die strike. The only design I see as a feasible choice and one that has the potential to be crisp and clear after the striking, is this one...

by KAISERKILLERfr08

In my opinion, the "KISS" rule applies for small detailed coin or token designs.

I have been part of a coin T-shirt design contest. The designs poured in and the fanciest, dark burgundy, jumbled, etc. design won. Two clear and simple, black on white, designs were second and third. The latter two would have been simple and inexpensive to produce. The first one has not seen the light of day and probably never will. The cost of printing detailed colourful coin designs on a dark burgundy surface are way too costly.

If you really want this token idea to happen, vote for the one that is actually possible to produce using a die, will be economical in price for the die design and one that will actually show the details you see on the projects after being struck.

dptashny

Joined: 25-Dec-2011
Posts: 3540

Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 05:32PM

No kidding, torontokuba! Although I think Ben's design might be okay too (the coin will be 30mm). And one more, I don't remember who designed it.

torontokuba

Joined: 8-May-2011
Posts: 1255

Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 05:39PM

Depends, if he wants that pile of berries in the middle to stay, and those hands to keep passing berries, it will be a token with berries.

15turtles

Joined: 26-Mar-2012
Posts: 1129

Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 06:31PM

BTW, on Kaiserkiller's design, it should be "Unity" and not "Togetherness"

University is time consuming, cherish your free time!

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

ngdawa

Joined: 18-Oct-2011
Posts: 4043

Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 06:55PM

Quote: 15turtlesBTW, on Kaiserkiller's design, it should be "Unity" and not "Togetherness"

I've been thinking of this a bit, and now you just mentioned it; I reckon that after we have decided for a layout, someone who's native in French and someone who's native in English should check the texting so we won't have a token with a weird Google Translate translation. And then of course have a chat with the designer just to inform and check if he or she is okay with a smaller change in the translation.

What do you say?

bam777

Joined: 5-Aug-2011
Posts: 4414

Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 07:22PM

When designing this token I did take this into consideration.
But, I agree.

torontokuba

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Posts: 1255

Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 08:37PM

Quote: 15turtlesBTW, on Kaiserkiller's design, it should be "Unity" and not "Togetherness"

In that case, Xavier's is also wrong?

torontokuba

Joined: 8-May-2011
Posts: 1255

Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 08:39PM

Quote: bam777When designing this token I did take this into consideration.
But, I agree.

What do you agree with? Unity? Berries?

bam777

Joined: 5-Aug-2011
Posts: 4414

Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 08:57PM

Translation not berries!

15turtles

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Posts: 1129

Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 10:08PM

Well, sort of. Togetherness isn't really a word, and if it is, it is quite unprofessional sounding.

I don't mean offense to anyone, just putting this out there that there are better words.

University is time consuming, cherish your free time!

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

torontokuba

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Posts: 1255

Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 10:17PM

It is in my dictionary...

togetherness |təˈgeðərnəs|
noun
the state of being close to another person or other people : the sense of family togetherness was strong and excluded neighbors.

... thesaurus...

togetherness
noun
the camp inspired togetherness: cohesion, cohesiveness, harmony, fellowship, camaraderie, close bond(s).

15turtles

Joined: 26-Mar-2012
Posts: 1129

Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 12:06AM

Then I have a bad dictionary (Internet!)

But still, unity sounds better.

University is time consuming, cherish your free time!

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

Xavier Site admin

Joined: 16-Jan-2007
Posts: 5289

Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 07:41AM

I agree my design has too much details to be strike exactly like on the picture. The idea is more to represent a great number of coins (including many countries), and I think it's acceptable to have blurry coins. To me, the most important is to represent coins, not to be able to identify every single coin.

I also agree with the need of proofreading lettering by native speakers.

derf

Joined: 11-Mar-2012
Posts: 1750

Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 08:37AM

Quote: 15turtlesBut still, unity sounds better.

In my opinion, Fellowship or Camaraderie would be a better choice for a translation.. Unity, to me, puts too much of a boundary or binding feeling to it...

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Do not argue with ignorant people .. !! They will drag you down to their level, then pulverize you with experience ...

KAISERKILLERfr08

Joined: 29-May-2011
Posts: 5658

Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 11:17AM

Quote: torontokubaIt is in my dictionary...

togetherness |təˈgeðərnəs|
noun
the state of being close to another person or other people : the sense of family togetherness was strong and excluded neighbors.

... thesaurus...

togetherness
noun
the camp inspired togetherness: cohesion, cohesiveness, harmony, fellowship, camaraderie, close bond(s).

So, togetherness is appropriate if it means fellowship, camaraderie. No?

I'm agree with you when you say "the unity sounds" is wrong, if you know a word which means "the pleasure to be assemble, with others numismatists on Numista for discuss and share our knowledges", I'm very interesting!

torontokuba

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Posts: 1255

Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 11:45AM

Maybe fellowship would be appropriate. Camaraderie sounds like it would be better for a Russian translation, comrade.

KAISERKILLERfr08

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Posts: 5658

Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 11:53AM

Nice joke!

Ok, tomorrow, I will change the text reverse text.

torontokuba

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Posts: 1255

Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 11:56AM

Would camaraderie now be more appropriate for the French side of the translation? Camaraderie - Fellowship ...?

There is also an option of Communaute - Community...

Seems to have been approved and used in a bilingual country.

KAISERKILLERfr08

Joined: 29-May-2011
Posts: 5658

Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 12:05PM

In French, "camaraderie" reminds the youngs children at school or USSR and red army

"Convivialité" it is really the pleasure to be with others peoples, to discuss, etc.

In French it is the best word for describe the good relations in a community!

torontokuba

Joined: 8-May-2011
Posts: 1255

Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 12:07PM

Quote: KAISERKILLERfr08In french, "camaraderie" reminds the youngs children at scholl or URSS and red army

See, same red army problem.

Evelynn

Joined: 11-Oct-2011
Posts: 31

Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 09:51PM

I keep looking at the coins each day and try to make a decision. So far no luck.
I like the face and hands of Bam and the mottoes of Kaiserkiller, so I think it is between those two for me.
Maybe they should collaborate?

p.s. I like "togetherness".

Honesty is never seen sitting astride the fence. ~L. Washburn

torontokuba

Joined: 8-May-2011
Posts: 1255

Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 10:32PM

I was actually thinking it's a pretty feminine word to describe a predominantly manly hobby. You second that.

Togetherness = Da Brothahood.

KAISERKILLERfr08

Joined: 29-May-2011
Posts: 5658

Posted: 28-Oct-2013, 03:06PM

Yesterday, I sent to Xavier the reverse with Fellowship

ngdawa

Joined: 18-Oct-2011
Posts: 4043

Posted: 30-Oct-2013, 09:00PM

I really like this one from the CoinCommunity Forum though; http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/auction_item.asp?intAuctionID=7815

bam777

Joined: 5-Aug-2011
Posts: 4414

Posted: 2-Nov-2013, 09:17AM

As the deadline for the winner approaches I just wanted to ask you all if you haven't voted, please vote for my design.
I wanted something to be beautiful and non descript with the coins. I didn't want them to be recognisable as coins just generic.
I recognise that the token is Italian and English looking but the language I used was thought out; it didn't need to change and it is all about the collection of coins.
So, if you haven't voted consider my token! I just wanted to discuss my design.

torontokuba

Joined: 8-May-2011
Posts: 1255

Posted: 2-Nov-2013, 11:14AM

Shameless plug...

... berries anyone?

szmata

Joined: 12-Jan-2010
Posts: 7080

Posted: 2-Nov-2013, 11:18AM

Quote: torontokubaShameless plug... ... berries anyone?

I have voted for number 5, the one with the 2 hands and the coin;

Beautiful

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bam777

Joined: 5-Aug-2011
Posts: 4414

Posted: 2-Nov-2013, 11:28AM

Yes, it is a plug. And I am not ashamed just asking for support.

szmata

Joined: 12-Jan-2010
Posts: 7080

Posted: 2-Nov-2013, 11:31AM

Quote: bam777Yes, it is a plug. And I am not ashamed just asking for support.

I don't see Peterkhull on the list of swappers.

Why?

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