Xavier
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Posted: 29-Sep-2013, 02:53PM
Posted: 29-Sep-2013, 02:53PM
Hello everyone!
The
idea of a token to celebrate Numista and its community got some good feedback. So it has been decided to make two versions, one in silver and the other in alloy. They both will have the same design and they will be 30 mm large.
Now we can go to the next step
The contest for design of the future Numista token is now launched!
Instructions
- You can freely choose the design, as long as it is related to Numista.
- The coin should have "Numista" as lettering.
- If there are any other lettering, they should be both in English and French.
- If you use other pictures for the design, make sure you have the rights to use them for this project.
Design submission deadline
October 20th, 2013
How to participate?
Send me your design by PM with the title "Numista token design contest" before the deadline.
You can post your draft on this topic to get advices and opinions about your design.
The selected design will be arranged by a professional who will sculpt the model in relief.
You accept to give the ownership of the design to Numista for using it for the token.
Selection of the design
The design will be selected through two steps:
- Jedsada and me will make a selection of the 5 best designs
- Members will vote among the 5 selected design to choose the best one.
Reward
The author of the selected design will win:
- the joy of having his/her design on a token with a mintage of several hundred pieces
- the two versions of the token for free
Xavier
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Posted: 29-Sep-2013, 03:03PM
Posted: 29-Sep-2013, 03:03PM
In additon to the "official" instructions, here are a few suggestions.
It would be good to illustrate some of the values of Numista: sharing, conviviality, exchange, knowledge, etc.
Why not add a motto. I really enjoy this sentence from @josephjk, which was posted on the forum some time ago: "Took my collection to a different level!" But the translation to French is uneasy...
Of course the coin aspect should be represented too. You could show some coins or some traditional motifs of coins: wreath, busts, etc.
ALLRED1950
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Posted: 29-Sep-2013, 05:21PM
Posted: 29-Sep-2013, 05:21PM
This is not all me. But I like the French franc with Numista on it. Maybe hands holding coins all the way around. Not good at drawing things not on paper.
It is, what it is.
dptashny
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Posted: 29-Sep-2013, 10:20PM
Posted: 29-Sep-2013, 10:20PM
A simple design, perhaps there could be another side, but there doesn't have to be.
dptashny
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Posted: 29-Sep-2013, 10:23PM
Posted: 29-Sep-2013, 10:23PM
A possible reverse:
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Posted: 29-Sep-2013, 10:24PM
Posted: 29-Sep-2013, 10:24PM
The reverse(?) of the silver version:
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Posted: 29-Sep-2013, 11:01PM
Posted: 29-Sep-2013, 11:01PM
Will the final five designs be displayed with or without the artists name?
Also is there a limit on how many designs an individual can submit?
dptashny
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Posted: 30-Sep-2013, 12:13AM
Posted: 30-Sep-2013, 12:13AM
Actually, I think the obverse and reverse should be included.
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Posted: 30-Sep-2013, 02:11PM
Posted: 30-Sep-2013, 02:11PM
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Posted: 30-Sep-2013, 02:52PM
Posted: 30-Sep-2013, 02:52PM
@Frenchlover - I love the side with the continents, but I think the translation is somewhat off on the text. It just doesn't sound right. And I don't know, I think the owl is a little too specific of an image. I look at that and think it's a Greek token.
@dptashny - I like the pile of coins, but the details would need to be sharper. It just looks a little cloudy or something. And the reverse is nice using the Numista script, but again, the French coin (even though it's part of the logo) is a little too country specific. I know the site started off French, but it's global now, so the token should be too.
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Frenchlover
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Posted: 30-Sep-2013, 06:51PM
Posted: 30-Sep-2013, 06:51PM
we'll let the owl fly away
Design evolution :
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Frenchlover
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Posted: 30-Sep-2013, 09:21PM
Posted: 30-Sep-2013, 09:21PM
Just a little explanation on my design.
On the English side, there is the concept of the "village".
In English, it is really the community, sharing, friendliness, mutual aid.
In short, everything that the U.S. would want to find in the Greenwich Village ...
And "
The village" is unique.
On the other side, it's in French.
How to translate "world coins" in French ...
"Parts of currency of the world".
It's too long ... so long my dear ...
and even the idea of the village is not the same in France. It is a little outdated ...
In French, it's more "the world of world currency" that reflects this idea. But there is repetition.
So the "The world of currency" (Le monde des pièces de monnaie) " is more appropriate in French. And even better:
"A whole world of currency" (Tout un monde de pièces")
would be totally appropriate, but it is really too French speaking...
For the handshake is the usability but also a "good deal", a "good swap", which is why I came to Numista !
I think as
glorkar that it is not necessary to stipulate that Numista was originally French.
Frankly, the word "
Coins" in many languages would be more appropriate than a simple translation in French. The word "Coins" in Russian, in Chinese, in Sinhala (it's too fine), etc ... all around the reverse face of the coins should be appropriate.
The principle of competition is to find a concept that fits to all of us.
You can make virtual coins here:
http://www.onlinewahn.de/generator/m-maker.htm
Go to bottom of page and you can design your coin. Google translate will help if you don't understand German
But even an good idea, a picture and a slogan would fit.
Numista will find someone who plays well with photoshop to finalize the design.
Don't worry and submit your design
Thanks
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Faële
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Posted: 30-Sep-2013, 09:33PM
Posted: 30-Sep-2013, 09:33PM
Quote: Frenchlover.../...
I think as glorkar that it is not necessary to stipulate that Numista was originally French.
.../...
The principle of competition is to find a concept that fits to all of us.
I agree with him
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Posted: 1-Oct-2013, 03:48AM
Posted: 1-Oct-2013, 03:48AM
I like this reverse better than my first one. What do you guys say?
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Posted: 1-Oct-2013, 08:17AM
Posted: 1-Oct-2013, 08:17AM
And the Token should be dated !
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Frenchlover
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Posted: 2-Oct-2013, 08:26AM
Posted: 2-Oct-2013, 08:26AM
This website even better for coin design:
http://theworldofcoins.com/en/
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Posted: 5-Oct-2013, 12:05PM
Posted: 5-Oct-2013, 12:05PM
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Posted: 5-Oct-2013, 03:21PM
Posted: 5-Oct-2013, 03:21PM
T'as eu la Belge 2013?
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Posted: 5-Oct-2013, 03:40PM
Posted: 5-Oct-2013, 03:40PM
What happened to the llamas ?
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szmata
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Posted: 5-Oct-2013, 07:31PM
Posted: 5-Oct-2013, 07:31PM
Quote: FrenchloverT'as eu la Belge 2013?
Yes, of course
Oui, bien sûr
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Xavier
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Posted: 7-Oct-2013, 03:45PM
Posted: 7-Oct-2013, 03:45PM
Quote: Walder CoinsWill the final five designs be displayed with or without the artists name?
Without, but you wil probably be able to guess from the forum.
Quote: Walder CoinsAlso is there a limit on how many designs an individual can submit?
No limit
Quote: FrenchloverAnd the Token should be dated !
Sure, it would be better to have the date.
el182592
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Posted: 9-Oct-2013, 02:02PM
Posted: 9-Oct-2013, 02:02PM
Quote: XavierQuote: Walder CoinsWill the final five designs be displayed with or without the artists name?
Without, but you wil probably be able to guess from the forum.
Quote: Walder CoinsAlso is there a limit on how many designs an individual can submit?
No limit
Quote: FrenchloverAnd the Token should be dated !
Sure, it would be better to have the date.
Hi,
Only talking about the design? I saw only
shape=ROUND design! No other suggestions?
And what about the (mine suggestion) :
Value 1 Ounce (1)
Metal Copper (.999) & Silver (.999)
Weight 31.107 g
Diameter 32.69 mm
Thickness ?? mm -> Depends on Weight/Diameter and Shape!
Shape Round
Orientation Medal alignment ↑↑
With regards.
Bert.
Netherlands.
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Posted: 10-Oct-2013, 12:25AM
Posted: 10-Oct-2013, 12:25AM
PKH
el182592
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Posted: 10-Oct-2013, 03:34AM
Posted: 10-Oct-2013, 03:34AM
Quote: peterkhullFirst draft: Click the image to view at full resolution.
OBV
REV
In silver:
OBV
REV
Also, my thought is that the 'N' on the reverse would be in the same font as the 'N' in Numista on the main page. I didn't bother looking around though, just wanted to get the idea together before it escaped me. I also thought integrating the globe into the rim of the coin could be a good idea. That is, the land of the continents would be raised like the rim of the coin and would be seamless. The ocean part of the globe would be indented and the rim would be raised where it connects to the ocean. I'm open to all suggestions.
Why ROUND-shape??
Using for example this shape!
With regards.
Bert.
Netherlands.
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Posted: 10-Oct-2013, 11:56AM
Posted: 10-Oct-2013, 11:56AM
It's a cost issue, round is cheaper.
ngdawa
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Posted: 11-Oct-2013, 11:00PM
Posted: 11-Oct-2013, 11:00PM
I thought something like this:
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szmata
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Posted: 11-Oct-2013, 11:03PM
Posted: 11-Oct-2013, 11:03PM
Quote: ngdawaI though something like this:

Don't forget that the inscriptions should be in English and in French
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bam777
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Posted: 11-Oct-2013, 11:27PM
Posted: 11-Oct-2013, 11:27PM
I don't believe it...someone has taken my slogan idea! But...great minds think alike.
ngdawa
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Posted: 12-Oct-2013, 04:15PM
Posted: 12-Oct-2013, 04:15PM
To complete my first essay/test, here's both obverse and reverse:

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ngdawa
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Posted: 12-Oct-2013, 04:30PM
Posted: 12-Oct-2013, 04:30PM
And a brass version of my both proposals:
TYPE 1)

TYPE 2)

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smoked_caramel
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Posted: 12-Oct-2013, 04:44PM
Posted: 12-Oct-2013, 04:44PM
ngdawa, I like the first one. One little improvement though - distribute the *** more evenly across the empty space between the words.
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Posted: 12-Oct-2013, 05:09PM
Posted: 12-Oct-2013, 05:09PM
Are we going to vote?
bennycunha97
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Posted: 12-Oct-2013, 09:27PM
Posted: 12-Oct-2013, 09:27PM
I have an idea, it's not much, and I have no ideas for the reverse, but here it is
ngdawa
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Posted: 13-Oct-2013, 08:56PM
Posted: 13-Oct-2013, 08:56PM
Quote: bennycunha97I have an idea, it's not much, and I have no ideas for the reverse, but here it is

Maybe it's better with "One World" than "A World"?
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ngdawa
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Posted: 13-Oct-2013, 08:57PM
Posted: 13-Oct-2013, 08:57PM
Quote: smoked_caramelngdawa, I like the first one. One little improvement though - distribute the *** more evenly across the empty space between the words.
Yeah I noticed that too, will try to fix that. Thanks!
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Faële
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Posted: 14-Oct-2013, 08:20PM
Posted: 14-Oct-2013, 08:20PM
szmata
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Posted: 14-Oct-2013, 08:48PM
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Frenchlover
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Posted: 17-Oct-2013, 01:54PM
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15turtles
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Posted: 17-Oct-2013, 04:26PM
Posted: 17-Oct-2013, 04:26PM
Hey everyone,
What is the official motto for Numista in English?
I know in French it is Votre collection des pieces en ligne.
Thanks.
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ngdawa
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Posted: 17-Oct-2013, 05:10PM
Posted: 17-Oct-2013, 05:10PM
Quote: 15turtlesHey everyone,
What is the official motto for Numista in English?
I know in French it is Votre collection des pieces en ligne.
Thanks.
It should be something like: Your coin collection online, I guess.
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15turtles
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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 12:51AM
Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 12:51AM
Hello Everyone,
Ignore color please, when its actually struck, its only matte and cameo.
Designwise, how is it?
Thanks,
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ngdawa
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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 12:10PM
Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 12:10PM
I reckon it feels too French with The Sower on the reverse. Shouldn't it be more "neutral"?
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derf
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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 12:32PM
Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 12:32PM
Quote: szmataI though something like this:
Quote: ngdawaDon't forget that the inscriptions should be in English and in French 
Why... !!! If the slogan or motto is going to be " Swap with the World ", that's international, and the international language is English.
The way it looks to me is, Numista is actually two sites... One International and one French. Have two Tokens....
? Format Format Format ? ?
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szmata
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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 12:39PM
Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 12:39PM
Quote: derfHave two Tokens....
Why 2 tokens?
Why do you want to separate the French-speaking members and the English-speaking members?
There is only one site, called "Numista" and created in France by Xavier.
One coin or token is enough and I don't see any reason why it could not be in 2 languages.
French is also an international language used in many countries of Europa, Africa...and also America.
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ngdawa
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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 01:24PM
Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 01:24PM
I see it like this: We make two token, but put them together! One side is for the English speaking members (or rather the non French speakers), and the other side if for the French speaking members. If/Since each side have different layout, we basically have two Tokens, but "united" with each other, right?
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derf
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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 01:34PM
Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 01:34PM
Quote: szmataQuote: derfHave two Tokens....
Why 2 tokens?
Why do you want to separate the French-speaking members and the English-speaking members?
There is only one site, called "Numista" and created in France by Xavier.
One coin or token is enough and I don't see any reason why it could not be in 2 languages.
French is also an international language used in many countries of Europa, Africa...and also America.
Looks like a nerve was struck, mon ami ..!!
1) I did not say that "I wanted to separate", they are separated.
2a) If there is only one site then why is the two URLs .. ??
a)
https://en.numista.com
b)
https://fr.numista.com (if that isn't separated, tell me what is)
2b) What does it matter where it was created and by whom, as to what languages are used.. ?
2c) Whenever the French portion is referred to it's: "Look on the French Site"
3) Then why not German, Spanish, Dutch or any one of the many other languages.. ?
4) Sorry, French lost it's international language status a long time ago... But go to any learning institute that teaches languages (outside of France) and they specifically state that English is the only international language. By your example so is Spanish, Portuguese, Russian and several other languages that are spoken in different countries around the globe.
Besides, if you weren't wearing your Paris Frenchness on your cuff, you would have comprehended that I was only making an observation, due to the statement that the token
"SHOULD" be in English and French.
Take a chill pill and relax .........
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szmata
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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 01:51PM
Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 01:51PM
Quote: derfQuote: szmataI though something like this:
Quote: ngdawaDon't forget that the inscriptions should be in English and in French 
Why... !!! If the slogan or motto is going to be " Swap with the World ", that's international, and the international language is English.
The way it looks to me is, Numista is actually two sites... One International and one French. Have two Tokens....
I was also only making an observation.
No more comments.
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Frenchlover
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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 02:00PM
Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 02:00PM
Quote: 15turtlesDesignwise, how is it?
The troll of the obverse face is very nice

.
The reverse face seems to me a little bit too French for a worldwide coin
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15turtles
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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 02:43PM
Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 02:43PM
I just thought the sower was more of a representation of Numista, and not that much to France in this case.
The Numista symbol on the top right.
EDIT** I know that la semeuse is a symbol that strongly represents France, but this is used in another sense, if you may.
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ngdawa
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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 05:39PM
Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 05:39PM
Quote: 15turtlesI just thought the sower was more of a representation of Numista, and not that much to France in this case.
The Numista symbol on the top right.
EDIT** I know that la semeuse is a symbol that strongly represents France, but this is used in another sense, if you may.
Of course the Sower (or le semeuse, if you'd like) could be a symbol representing the Numista Community, but then, the logo of this website IS a French 1 Franc coin. The same with the owl we had earlier. Of course an owl could be neutral, but I reckon that most of us the owl and the Sower leads our thoughts to Greece and France. Or am I wrong?
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15turtles
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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 06:40PM
Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 06:40PM
Not wrong, just saying why I choose that design even though la semeuse has strong links to France.
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Evelynn
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Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 11:34PM
Posted: 18-Oct-2013, 11:34PM
Great job everyone. I am glad I am not a judge, they are all so good.
Personally I think we should use Frenchlover's icon (kidding).
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marcel.jung
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Posted: 19-Oct-2013, 01:26PM
Posted: 19-Oct-2013, 01:26PM
marcel.jung
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Posted: 19-Oct-2013, 01:31PM
Posted: 19-Oct-2013, 01:31PM
By the way - who is the founder of Numista? Maybe it would be good to make the token with his head and name on one side /and information "The founder of Numista" in both languages/;-)
bam777
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Posted: 19-Oct-2013, 01:38PM
Posted: 19-Oct-2013, 01:38PM
Dear All,
I have thought long and hard about my design entry. This is what I have come up with. What do you all think? I really would like to win this competition so I'd like it if you could share your sentiments on the token via PM to me!
The obverse Italian inspired with an androgynous face inspecting a coin.
The reverse UK inspired from the 1973 EEC coin, this time with hands exchanging different types of coins with Numista in the centre and a non descript pile of coins. The lettering Exchange without borders and the French echanges sans frontiers.
marcel.jung
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Posted: 19-Oct-2013, 01:43PM
Posted: 19-Oct-2013, 01:43PM
Quote: bam777Dear All,
I have thought long and hard about my design entry. This is what I have come up with. What do you all think? I really would like to win this competition so I'd like it if you could share your sentiments on the token via PM to me!

The obverse Italian inspired with an androgynous face inspecting a coin.

The reverse UK inspired from the 1973 EEC coin, this time with hands exchanging different types of coins with Numista in the centre and a non descript pile of coins. The lettering Exchange without borders and the French echanges sans frontiers.
Well, it's great ;-) Maybe even better than the one about which I have spoken a couple of minutes ago ;-)
Faële
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Posted: 19-Oct-2013, 03:45PM
Posted: 19-Oct-2013, 03:45PM
à bam777
Waou ! Tu dessines vraiment bien !
C'est du beau boulot . Et très joli résultat pour ce jeton Numista.
to bam777
Wow ! You draw very well !
It's a beautiful work ! And very good result for this Numista token.
ngdawa
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Posted: 19-Oct-2013, 06:55PM
Posted: 19-Oct-2013, 06:55PM
It's a very nice design, and I think that all of us who had made an design are eager to win

But, it still feels like it's an Italian token. My first thoughts was drawn to Italy. We have earlier declared to make a neutral token, since we've had some French inspired designs.
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Posted: 19-Oct-2013, 10:39PM
Posted: 19-Oct-2013, 10:39PM
Magnific Ben
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Posted: 20-Oct-2013, 03:07AM
Posted: 20-Oct-2013, 03:07AM
Beautiful design Ben. Awesome!
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Posted: 20-Oct-2013, 03:37AM
Posted: 20-Oct-2013, 03:37AM
Frenchlover
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Posted: 20-Oct-2013, 10:35AM
Posted: 20-Oct-2013, 10:35AM
thank you for your contribution

, humor is an option that no one had picked up so far
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torontokuba
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Posted: 20-Oct-2013, 05:07PM
Posted: 20-Oct-2013, 05:07PM
Really, I thought you were first with the humor on coins. Nice breasts!
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Posted: 20-Oct-2013, 05:36PM
Posted: 20-Oct-2013, 05:36PM
I am about to submit some more designs, I hope the submission isn't over!
Xavier
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Posted: 21-Oct-2013, 02:50PM
Posted: 21-Oct-2013, 02:50PM
Hello,
The deadline is now over. Here are the list of members who sent me a design. I also added the designs from the members who only posted their (complete and valid) design on the forum.
15turtles
annozi.frizi
bam777
dptashny
Faële
Fataghost
filipe_slb
Frenchlover
guard
KAISERKILLERfr08
mucuu
ngdawa
papi
peterkhull
robert_
wam80
Xavier
If you missed the deadline but still want to participate, please contact me very quickly.
The 5 selected designs will be announced and undergo a vote soon.
ngdawa
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Posted: 21-Oct-2013, 03:34PM
Posted: 21-Oct-2013, 03:34PM
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Posted: 21-Oct-2013, 05:05PM
Posted: 21-Oct-2013, 05:05PM
Quote: XavierI also added the designs from the members who only posted their (complete and valid) design on the forum.
Of course, no worries, you won't hear from me over that correct decision.
15turtles
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Posted: 21-Oct-2013, 05:45PM
Posted: 21-Oct-2013, 05:45PM
Lots of competition!
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Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 05:57AM
Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 05:57AM
The designs that look like real submissions but were only posted on the forum have been considered because I don't want to penalize those who didn't understand they should send me a PM. Some members thought it was enough to post on the forum. I have contacted them to check if they want to participate or not before making the selection of the 5 designs for the next step.
Xavier
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Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 06:07AM
Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 06:07AM
Thank to all the participants who submitted a design. We received a total of 22 designs and many of them were very good!
Jedsada and me chose the 5 designs we prefer:

by bam777

by Faële

by KAISERKILLERfr08

by peterkhull

by ngdawa
As I can't judge for my own design, we didn't include it for the choice of the 5 designs, so members will vote to choose the best design among 6 designs: the 5 selected designs and mine.

by me
The vote will be open later today and will run until November 3.
Xavier
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Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 08:33AM
Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 08:33AM
torontokuba
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Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 05:17PM
Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 05:17PM
Quote: XavierAs I can't judge for my own design, we didn't include it for the choice of the 5 designs, so members will vote to choose the best design among 6 designs: the 5 selected designs and mine.
by me
That's ok, I'll judge it for you. Your coin tree design is even more jumbled up than the Numista banner. You take away the colour and detail of every coin on your tree and you get a tree with circles.
Many of the designs have just too much detail to show off on a tiny token, unless you're planning on a 38mm+ diameter. This design has to be practical and possible to duplicate through a die strike. The only design I see as a feasible choice and one that has the potential to be crisp and clear after the striking, is this one...

by KAISERKILLERfr08
In my opinion, the "KISS" rule applies for small detailed coin or token designs.
I have been part of a coin T-shirt design contest. The designs poured in and the fanciest, dark burgundy, jumbled, etc. design won. Two clear and simple, black on white, designs were second and third. The latter two would have been simple and inexpensive to produce. The first one has not seen the light of day and probably never will. The cost of printing detailed colourful coin designs on a dark burgundy surface are way too costly.
If you really want this token idea to happen, vote for the one that is actually possible to produce using a die, will be economical in price for the die design and one that will actually show the details you see on the projects after being struck.
dptashny
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Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 05:32PM
Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 05:32PM
No kidding, torontokuba! Although I think Ben's design might be okay too (the coin will be 30mm). And one more, I don't remember who designed it.
torontokuba
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Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 05:39PM
Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 05:39PM
Depends, if he wants that pile of berries in the middle to stay, and those hands to keep passing berries, it will be a token with berries.
15turtles
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Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 06:31PM
Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 06:31PM
BTW, on Kaiserkiller's design, it should be "Unity" and not "Togetherness"
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ngdawa
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Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 06:55PM
Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 06:55PM
Quote: 15turtlesBTW, on Kaiserkiller's design, it should be "Unity" and not "Togetherness"
I've been thinking of this a bit, and now you just mentioned it; I reckon that after we have decided for a layout, someone who's native in French and someone who's native in English should check the texting so we won't have a token with a weird Google Translate translation. And then of course have a chat with the designer just to inform and check if he or she is okay with a smaller change in the translation.
What do you say?
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bam777
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Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 07:22PM
Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 07:22PM
When designing this token I did take this into consideration.
But, I agree.
torontokuba
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Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 08:37PM
Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 08:37PM
Quote: 15turtlesBTW, on Kaiserkiller's design, it should be "Unity" and not "Togetherness"
In that case, Xavier's is also wrong?
torontokuba
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Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 08:39PM
Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 08:39PM
Quote: bam777When designing this token I did take this into consideration.
But, I agree.
What do you agree with? Unity? Berries?
bam777
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Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 08:57PM
Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 08:57PM
Translation not berries!
15turtles
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Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 10:08PM
Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 10:08PM
Well, sort of. Togetherness isn't really a word, and if it is, it is quite unprofessional sounding.
I don't mean offense to anyone, just putting this out there that there are better words.
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torontokuba
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Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 10:17PM
Posted: 23-Oct-2013, 10:17PM
It is in my dictionary...
togetherness |təˈgeðərnəs|
noun
the state of being close to another person or other people : the sense of family togetherness was strong and excluded neighbors.
... thesaurus...
togetherness
noun
the camp inspired togetherness: cohesion, cohesiveness, harmony, fellowship, camaraderie, close bond(s).
15turtles
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Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 12:06AM
Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 12:06AM
Then I have a bad dictionary (Internet!)
But still, unity sounds better.
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Xavier
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Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 07:41AM
Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 07:41AM
I agree my design has too much details to be strike exactly like on the picture. The idea is more to represent a great number of coins (including many countries), and I think it's acceptable to have blurry coins. To me, the most important is to represent coins, not to be able to identify every single coin.
I also agree with the need of proofreading lettering by native speakers.
derf
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Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 08:37AM
Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 08:37AM
Quote: 15turtlesBut still, unity sounds better.
In my opinion, Fellowship or Camaraderie would be a better choice for a translation.. Unity, to me, puts too much of a boundary or binding feeling to it...
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KAISERKILLERfr08
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Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 11:17AM
Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 11:17AM
Quote: torontokubaIt is in my dictionary...
togetherness |təˈgeðərnəs|
noun
the state of being close to another person or other people : the sense of family togetherness was strong and excluded neighbors.
... thesaurus...
togetherness
noun
the camp inspired togetherness: cohesion, cohesiveness, harmony, fellowship, camaraderie, close bond(s).
So, togetherness is appropriate if it means fellowship, camaraderie. No?
I'm agree with you when you say "the unity sounds" is wrong, if you know a word which means "the pleasure to be assemble, with others numismatists on
Numista for discuss and share our knowledges", I'm very interesting!
torontokuba
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Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 11:45AM
Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 11:45AM
Maybe fellowship would be appropriate. Camaraderie sounds like it would be better for a Russian translation, comrade.
KAISERKILLERfr08
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Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 11:53AM
Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 11:53AM
Nice joke!
Ok, tomorrow, I will change the text reverse text.
torontokuba
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Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 11:56AM
Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 11:56AM
Would camaraderie now be more appropriate for the French side of the translation? Camaraderie - Fellowship ...?
There is also an option of Communaute - Community...
Seems to have been approved and used in a bilingual country.
KAISERKILLERfr08
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Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 12:05PM
Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 12:05PM
In French, "camaraderie" reminds the youngs children at school or USSR and red army
"Convivialité" it is really the pleasure to be with others peoples, to discuss, etc.
In French it is the best word for describe the good relations in a community!
torontokuba
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Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 12:07PM
Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 12:07PM
Quote: KAISERKILLERfr08In french, "camaraderie" reminds the youngs children at scholl or URSS and red army 
See, same red army problem.
Evelynn
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Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 09:51PM
Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 09:51PM
I keep looking at the coins each day and try to make a decision. So far no luck.
I like the face and hands of Bam and the mottoes of Kaiserkiller, so I think it is between those two for me.
Maybe they should collaborate?
p.s. I like "togetherness".
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torontokuba
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Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 10:32PM
Posted: 24-Oct-2013, 10:32PM
I was actually thinking it's a pretty feminine word to describe a predominantly manly hobby. You second that.

Togetherness = Da Brothahood.
KAISERKILLERfr08
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Posted: 28-Oct-2013, 03:06PM
Posted: 28-Oct-2013, 03:06PM
Yesterday, I sent to Xavier the reverse with Fellowship
ngdawa
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Posted: 30-Oct-2013, 09:00PM
Posted: 30-Oct-2013, 09:00PM
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Posted: 2-Nov-2013, 09:17AM
Posted: 2-Nov-2013, 09:17AM
As the deadline for the winner approaches I just wanted to ask you all if you haven't voted, please vote for my design.
I wanted something to be beautiful and non descript with the coins. I didn't want them to be recognisable as coins just generic.
I recognise that the token is Italian and English looking but the language I used was thought out; it didn't need to change and it is all about the collection of coins.
So, if you haven't voted consider my token! I just wanted to discuss my design.
torontokuba
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Posted: 2-Nov-2013, 11:14AM
Posted: 2-Nov-2013, 11:14AM
Shameless plug...

... berries anyone?
szmata
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Posted: 2-Nov-2013, 11:18AM
Posted: 2-Nov-2013, 11:18AM
Quote: torontokubaShameless plug...
... berries anyone? 
I have voted for number 5, the one with the 2 hands and the coin;
Beautiful
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bam777
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Posted: 2-Nov-2013, 11:28AM
Posted: 2-Nov-2013, 11:28AM
Yes, it is a plug. And I am not ashamed just asking for support.
szmata
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Posted: 2-Nov-2013, 11:31AM
Posted: 2-Nov-2013, 11:31AM
Quote: bam777Yes, it is a plug. And I am not ashamed just asking for support.
I don't see Peterkhull on the list of swappers.
Why?
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