Jarcek
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Posted: 20-Apr-2016, 23:04
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Hi,
just a quckie - how many coins Krause has in its books?
Does anybody knows?
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neilithic
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Posted: 20-Apr-2016, 23:26
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Hold on a second....I'll go and count
Jarcek
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Posted: 20-Apr-2016, 23:32
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Hope you are not going one by one.
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neilithic
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Posted: 21-Apr-2016, 00:08
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11,564....11,565...11,566....Darn, you made me lose count. 1...2...3...
Probably the easiest way to tell would be to add up all the last KM#'s form each country. That would give you the total number of coins, but not all the variations (i.e. KM#12a, 12b, 12c etc.)
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Posted: 21-Apr-2016, 00:19
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Quote: "neilithic"11,564....11,565...11,566....Darn, you made me lose count. 1...2...3
Fluke
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Posted: 21-Apr-2016, 13:43
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Which Krause catalogue? or do you mean all of them?
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Jarcek
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Posted: 21-Apr-2016, 13:45
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Yes, I mean all of them. I just wanted to know approximately, how many coins are there listed. To compare it what we have here on Numista (I know we have a lot less, just being curious how much we have to catch up
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BizzoDoes
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Posted: 21-Apr-2016, 15:56
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This may give you a ballpark figure:
I have old PDF versions of the 5 catalogues from 1600 onwards, so searching/counting for "KM#" returns:
1601-1700: 35227
1701-1800: 27551
1801-1900: 18936
1901-2000: 39012
2001-date: 13257
So in total 133983 matches.
Does this sound about right for coins from 1601-2011?
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Jarcek
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Posted: 21-Apr-2016, 16:00
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Many thanks! I guess we are not so far behind with 60 000 coins listed. Just another few years of work and couple more volunteers to help us.
Anyone volunteering on some referee positions?
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ken6528
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Posted: 21-Apr-2016, 17:04
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Quote: "BizzoDoes"This may give you a ballpark figure:
I have old PDF versions of the 5 catalogues from 1600 onwards, so searching/counting for "KM#" returns:
1601-1700: 35227
1701-1800: 27551
1801-1900: 18936
1901-2000: 39012
2001-date: 13257
So in total 133983 matches.
Does this sound about right for coins from 1601-2011?
These numbers will be on the high side as the catalogs have "km#" listed in the mint and proof sets description
Sjoelund
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Posted: 21-Apr-2016, 17:05
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Hi,
are we talking types only or types/year?
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Jarcek
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Posted: 21-Apr-2016, 17:06
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Only types. I really do not know how many years are listed on Numista.
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pietr
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Posted: 21-Apr-2016, 18:22
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Note that sometimes in Krause it appears "same as KM#".
Also, in some cases KM#23.1 ; 23.2; 23.3 are listed as a single entry in Numista, and in Krause always mentioned separatedingly.
However:
With 3 Krause books on hand, it is curious that none says the total number of coins listed.
1901-2000 2013 edition says "60,000 pictures", so I believe that are more than the 39012 KM# listed. Many coins did not have the image though...
Anyway, I would say that more than a half is listed in Krause but I bet noone here has...
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Posted: 21-Apr-2016, 18:26
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And I bet if they were, more people would use Numista. Also, as internet goes wide and new generations of collectors use it, more people will head here eventually.
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imreh
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Posted: 21-Apr-2016, 19:46
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4127 for Hungary, I leave the rest of the count for you :)
imreh
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Posted: 21-Apr-2016, 19:58
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We have one of the most experienced collecectors here on Numista with over 40k coins, who is a long-time mentioned contributor of the Krause catalog. The gentleman is in his 80s and deserves all respect. He himslef claimed that Krause is an old-fashioned institution which will eventually die due to their lack of innovations and following digital age.
So, eventually the world will use "Numista numbers" instead of KM numbers in about 10 years.
[Provided oru great leader does not f...ck his own system up!]
Fluke
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Posted: 23-Apr-2016, 01:37
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That was a nice reply until the [ comment ] messed it all up.
Krause is staggeringly off base with so many European coin values that I have experienced, I only check it for types or KM#'s
I wish I could help with the catalogue, but all the countries I would help with are already taken with enough referee's
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neilithic
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Posted: 25-Apr-2016, 07:35
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Me also, the only categories I have catalogues for are the New Zealand coins, New Zealand and Australian trade tokens and New Zealand exonumia. I'm slowly adding all the trade tokens in the catalogue. Once that's done my contribution will come down to helping with the Exonumia shift/tokens cleanup.
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Posted: 25-Apr-2016, 10:30
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Hi !
Dont forget abot KM# , which were issued in the merge of two eras :) So, same KM# exist in 19th Krause and 20th, in 18th and 19th, in 17th and 18th. So, we are much more far then we thought
:) :)
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Posted: 9-May-2016, 06:44
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At the rate modern countries issue commemoratives, Krause is going to have to add another volume before this decade is over. Not to mention that their 2001-date volume is missing a LOT of coins from the last 4-5 years which can find on Numista (and other online resources) almost as soon as they are released.
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Posted: 10-May-2016, 03:59
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Hi Jarcek. I have volunteered and sent several emails. He seems busy..
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Carlos55
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Posted: 10-May-2016, 20:37
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I am considering volunteering as well, but also the countries that I would be interested in volunteering for already have referees. I need to get me some literature for other possible countries before I commit.
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Jesse11
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Posted: 10-May-2016, 21:40
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It must be a lot - I just bought a used copy of the 2015 20th century book, and it weighs 6 pounds! Glad USPS Media Mail exists...
zegeri
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Posted: 15-May-2016, 09:48
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Counting the Numista-style types with a very limited sampling, there are between 100.000 and 140.000.
To count KM#, as BizzoDoes did, looks a good upper limit. The most probable value is around 120.000. Double than Numista catalog.
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BryanJ
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Posted: 18-May-2016, 16:32
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Quote: "zegeri"Counting the Numista-style types with a very limited sampling, there are between 100.000 and 140.000.
To count KM#, as BizzoDoes did, looks a good upper limit. The most probable value is around 120.000. Double than Numista catalog.
There are countries with coins which don't have a KM# but a C# or Y#, this method doesn't count them.
Jarcek
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Posted: 18-May-2016, 16:39
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Thanks, that is what I have been up to, to get to know how far behind we are. :)
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