Arnhemcoin
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Posted: 29-Jun-2016, 19:53
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Posted: 29-Jun-2016, 19:53
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Just wondering why the ruler is no longer mentioned with the early Pakistani coins (George V & Elizabeth II)
Oklahoman
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Posted: 30-Jun-2016, 04:47
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Posted: 30-Jun-2016, 04:47
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Why was it ever? There has never been a Kingly or Queenly designation on the coin. Is this done for other countries?
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Arnhemcoin
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Posted: 6-Jul-2016, 10:31
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Posted: 6-Jul-2016, 10:31
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I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
For example Trinidad & Tobago, the coins during the era of Elizabeth II are marked as being from that era without Elizabeth II being mentioned on the coin itself, to me it's just a handy reference, which was mentioned with Pakistani coins, but is now gone, I was just wondering why.
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Posted: 12-Jul-2016, 09:54
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Posted: 12-Jul-2016, 09:54
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King/Queen is mentioned even when he is not pictured. However, he must rule that country, which is not the case! Pakistan got independent in 1947..
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Arnhemcoin
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Posted: 12-Jul-2016, 18:32
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Posted: 12-Jul-2016, 18:32
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George VI and Elizabeth II were still King and Queen of Pakistan till 1956.
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Posted: 14-Jul-2016, 15:09
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Hmm, you are right. I do not remember the discussion really. But I believe it had something to do with coins being issued not in the king's/queen's name, but in the name of government of Pakistan.
There are lot of Commonwealth countries with Queen as its head, but without being pictured or mentioned on the coins.
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Arnhemcoin
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Posted: 14-Jul-2016, 16:26
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Posted: 14-Jul-2016, 16:26
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Oh I know, but it's mentioned in the catalogue, like my Trinidad & Tobago example.
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Posted: 4-Nov-2016, 15:51
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Posted: 4-Nov-2016, 15:51
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Trinidad & Tobago was an independent Dominion of the British Commonwealth from 1962 to 1976,but Trinidad & Tobago's first coins were struck in 1966.
Pakistan became independent in August 1947 as the Dominion of Pakistan,then became the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in March 1956.
Guyana was an independent Dominion from 1966 until February 1970.
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Arnhemcoin
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Posted: 4-Nov-2016, 21:41
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Posted: 4-Nov-2016, 21:41
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But until 1956, George VI and Elizabeth II were Kind and Queen of Pakistan Respectively.
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Posted: 4-Nov-2016, 23:23
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Posted: 4-Nov-2016, 23:23
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Sooo...i still am not clear why the coin listing refers a monarch who is not on the coin...i mean here in the USA we now have this pre federal business... we have all these colonials... should we include King Charles...or the various Georges?
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Arnhemcoin
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Posted: 5-Nov-2016, 12:40
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Posted: 5-Nov-2016, 12:40
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Well that's a 2nd, should there be a reference.
But there was one and then it was removed, to me it just made a very easy reference as to when a country stopped being part of the "Empire".
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Posted: 9-Nov-2016, 11:31
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Ireland was also part of the British Empire & the British Commonwealth until 1949.
The 1928-35 coin listings of the Irish Free State should contain a reference to King George V.
The 1936 Farthing listing should contain a contain a reference to King Edward VIII.
The 1937-48 coin listings should contain a reference to King George VI.
All three Kings were the Kings of Ireland.
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