Quote: "Blazenko"Just for info:
hopetotravel is the same person as GabrielGT, i think he scammed like 30 persons last time he was on Numista.
i hope this info will help someone.
Best regards B.
Just thought I should weigh in on this person, you say is a scammer. In fact he is a 17 year old boy who is going to be a senior this year. He is on the varsity track team and runs cross country. I did a little background check on the person and the home address to see if I ever dealt with him before. Someone who lives in that house must be using his name because he is a minor. I have worked in the school system for 15 years and I know the importance of a young persons reputation. BE CAREFUL!!!! One day a potential employer might do a google search and find that this person looks like a thief. In fact, I am so upset about it I really feel like calling the boys mother and telling her what is being said about her son.
Not to mention against the rules of the site....you can point out if someone is cheating, but sharing personal information like phone numbers is a no-no.
Quote: "pnightingale"That's what I hate about this site, a couple of newly arrived members, one with zero swaps telling us how things are.....
Thanks for the free advice, I'll make sure to give it the attention it deserves.
Proving your childishness once again, it's funny how the number of swaps I have made tell about my life experiences...
I don't want any beef with anyone so I'll just leave this thread beacause you don't seem to be able to be an adult.
Quote: "pnightingale"It's the third profile..... it isn't an accident or a lapse in judgement.
It's a rotten kid with sokoy parents.
And no, I'm not jumping to conclusions fresh mouth, he emailed me yesterday.
The point is, a bunch of members have mailed coins to the address on the link that Phil shared with us......and got cheated.
I don't care who the crook is at this address, whether it's the Punk kid, the momma, PawPaw or cousin Eddie,
somebody is screwing ya'all out of coins.
So remember the damn address and put it on the blacklist.......and for the two of you that live in the PC world, get your head out of the sand.....instead of thanking a trusted member for the 'Heads Up" on a piece of crap thief you start an argument.
once again a thread about a scammer (30+ members with his last profile and now 13 swaps on the road with this one) descends into petty name calling. Take the warning if you want, if not then don't.
Hopeakettu, don't take it the wrong way.
The forums will not provide you with a true history of scammers on numista.
We suffer from an Orwellian disappearance of factual information and events, you don't know what we've seen, it's not searchable.
Phil doesn't use double-speak and shoots from the hip when he sees someone getting robbed.
He's a good egg, and you probably are too. Time will tell.
Quote: "neilithic"13 swaps on the road with this one
It was 15 yesterday, I sent a warning to as many people as the mail system would allow after I received the email from him confirming his identity. (Yeah, he's THAT dumb)
So that's two people who won't be getting scammed, maybe more. He could have had 20 swaps on the road today.
I don't have time to pause to consider nuances or even be particularly polite in the face of small provocations or ignorance. I'll be the bad guy, my friends can keep their treasured coins. I'm happy with the trade off.
Non illegitimis carborundum est. Excellent advice for all coins.
Make Numismatics Great Again!
Quote: "ard"Hopeakettu, don't take it the wrong way.
The forums will not provide you with a true history of scammers on numista.
We suffer from an Orwellian disappearance of factual information and events, you don't know what we've seen, it's not searchable.
Phil doesn't use double-speak and shoots from the hip when he sees someone getting robbed.
He's a good egg, and you probably are too. Time will tell.
Yeah, I do not think that cracking on Phil will make many friends on Numista. He is one the good guys. He may be too plain-spoken for some, but he is a knowledge collector, an very honest and fair swapper, and most importantly, a decent human being. There are a few members of Numista for which none of these things can be said, and Phil does does not abide these folks...Good for him.
One of the things I love about Numista is that Phil and I can be friends despite the likelihood that we are on nearly opposite sides of the political spectrum.
Quote: "Hopeakettu"
EDIT: I have sent Xavier a proposal about how to prevent scamming instead of attacking these people after the damage has been done
good luck with the proposal......."attacking these people" .......who ? The scammers......?
Quote: "Hopeakettu"
EDIT: I have sent Xavier a proposal about how to prevent scamming instead of attacking these people after the damage has been done
good luck with the proposal......."attacking these people" .......who ? The scammers......?
Quote: "neilithic"13 swaps on the road with this one
It was 15 yesterday, I sent a warning to as many people as the mail system would allow after I received the email from him confirming his identity. (Yeah, he's THAT dumb)
So that's two people who won't be getting scammed, maybe more. He could have had 20 swaps on the road today.
I don't have time to pause to consider nuances or even be particularly polite in the face of small provocations or ignorance. I'll be the bad guy, my friends can keep their treasured coins. I'm happy with the trade off.
Thank you Phil for the warning I have sent out warnings to many of my friends as well unfortunately it seems I was too late and one of my friends is part of those 15 swaps on the road. Let's hope he gets lucky and the little turd doesn't screw him.
Quote: "neilithic"Not to mention against the rules of the site....you can point out if someone is cheating, but sharing personal information like phone numbers is a no-no.
well scamming is also against the rules but he doesnt give a damn about it.
Quote: "vabch111"Just thought I should weigh in on this person, you say is a scammer. In fact he is a 17 year old boy who is going to be a senior this year. He is on the varsity track team and runs cross country. I did a little background check on the person and the home address to see if I ever dealt with him before. Someone who lives in that house must be using his name because he is a minor. I have worked in the school system for 15 years and I know the importance of a young persons reputation. BE CAREFUL!!!! One day a potential employer might do a google search and find that this person looks like a thief. In fact, I am so upset about it I really feel like calling the boys mother and telling her what is being said about her son.
You're not the only one who did research to this boy my friend.
As a pedagogue who cares for the development and the future of youth I must to admit that a reputation must to be earn based on deeds and not on minority. What's wrong is wrong and what's right is right.
In other words I do really hope that all possible google employers at some point do a google search.
The question that keep coming to mind is, why didn't someone file a complaint with the post office the first time? It's mail fraud plain and simple. Then, there would have been an investigation and there wouldn't have been a second time or a third. If we are looking for ways to stop this from happening in the US we don't have to go very far. It would be a lot better than posting a picture of minor and publicly shaming him. Especially when you don't know for sure it's him. Even if it was him, he would be in a lot more trouble with the feds than anything we could ever do.
By the way, I really like a good debate. Usually both sides learn something new. Using profanity and vulgar language deflects from the issue. Come on guys, we are better than that.
Quote: "vabch111"The question that keep coming to mind is, why didn't someone file a complaint with the post office the first time? It's mail fraud plain and simple. Then, there would have been an investigation and there wouldn't have been a second time or a third. If we are looking for ways to stop this from happening in the US we don't have to go very far. It would be a lot better than posting a picture of minor and publicly shaming him. Especially when you don't know for sure it's him. Even if it was him, he would be in a lot more trouble with the feds than anything we could ever do.
By the way, I really like a good debate. Usually both sides learn something new. Using profanity and vulgar language deflects from the issue. Come on guys, we are better than that.
So you believe that public shaming is worse than involving the feds?
Quote: "vabch111"The question that keep coming to mind is, why didn't someone file a complaint with the post office the first time? It's mail fraud plain and simple. Then, there would have been an investigation and there wouldn't have been a second time or a third. If we are looking for ways to stop this from happening in the US we don't have to go very far. It would be a lot better than posting a picture of minor and publicly shaming him. Especially when you don't know for sure it's him. Even if it was him, he would be in a lot more trouble with the feds than anything we could ever do.
By the way, I really like a good debate. Usually both sides learn something new. Using profanity and vulgar language deflects from the issue. Come on guys, we are better than that.
You ask and you answer, all at the same time. Weird!
... and yes, I did involved the feds.
Filing a complaint with the post office is more effective with less chance of the person repeating the fraud. Plus, whoever is guilty is the one who is going to be exposed. If someone would steals, they probably would lie about who they are.
Quote: "vabch111"Filing a complaint with the post office is more effective with less chance of the person repeating the fraud. Plus, whoever is guilty is the one who is going to be exposed. If someone would steals, they probably would lie about who they are.
We don't have any issues between us,. You've expressed your opinion without the petty insults, deflections and meaningless insincere apologies of your partner, you will receive the same courtesy in return.
You are however 100% wrong in your assessments. This is the third account created by this nasty little pimple, each one of which has been used to steal coins from multiple people. Why don't you spend some time worrying about them instead of stressing over a serial thief? A large red warning was placed on his profile page by the site administrators. You can't see it now because he's closed off his swap list, probably to screw a few more dollars before abandoning this account and starting a new one. He'll be back, he'll be exposed and there will be people making excuses for him. Rinse and repeat.
Your conspiracy theory just doesn't pass the smell test. You have presented no evidence to support your claim that it's "someone else" doing the stealing. Who? How do you know his? How has this mystery man managed to remove about 100 parcels of stolen coins from someone else's mailbox without being seen?
Until you can answer these questions your wild theories should be viewed, like the most recent Bigfoot sighting, as a mild distraction and source of amusement. Isn't it simpler, especially in the absence of evidence to the contrary, to accept that he's just another low life bum?
Involving the Feds or the Postal Authorities is a waste of time. They may or may not act, we seen plenty of parasites come and go but I've yet to hear of any being prosecuted. The Feds are looking for bigger fish. That leaves us the current option, exposure. This is the option officially favored by Numista, to shine the light of day on these cockroaches on a third party hosted website. Don't like it, take it up with Team Numista.
Non illegitimis carborundum est. Excellent advice for all coins.
Make Numismatics Great Again!
Numista is hosted on French servers and is subject to French laws which would prohibit disclosing information. However it is just fine to publish a link to that information.
There is a similar site, Colnect, where members are actually encouraged to disclose the real names and addresses of scammers. They do so only after an investigation by their community managers has concluded. Their servers are hosted by an Israeli company so they have much more freedom to act.
Non illegitimis carborundum est. Excellent advice for all coins.
Make Numismatics Great Again!
Quote: "pnightingale"It's the third profile..... it isn't an accident or a lapse in judgement.
It's a rotten kid with parents.
And no, I'm not jumping to conclusions fresh mouth, he emailed me yesterday.
How can I have my name removed?
We understand people may change and regret their past crimes. If you send back the coins to the victims, we will be happy to remove the article about you.
Taking a break from swapping for a while, but still interested in pre 1799 Spanish coins, I will make time for that!
