Requests to delete extra line in Isle of Man 2 pence Cyclists

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The article
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces7746.html

in the year distribution section has line:

1996 PM Unattributed die letters

Looks like this line should be deleted.
Alexander from Cyprus
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40 members need to put them somewhere first.
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Also...on a related matter. as I continue to clean up the Man listings, I will make sure to note the PM. I am still concerned about noting die letters for the illustrated coin, when so many others exist. How about something like this in the comments: Die letters AA, AB,AC,AD,AE,AF,AG,BB exist for this type and can be found ____. Or this: Die letters can be found (in this location), the known die letters are listed as part of the year.

i have looked around Numista. USA lists the mm with the year...and inconsistantly as part of the lettering of the coin. Canada seems to be a crap shoot, but more consistent than USA. The Russian listings are very nice. they list the mm with the date, and make a note about them.

Let me know your thoughts.
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According to the Numista rules for referees, all readable symbols are obliged to be described in the "Lettering" section.

It means, that if there is "Lettering" section in an article (it is in this one) the symbols PM should be mentioned in it. As for the other side of this particular coin there are other readable symbols and they must be described as well in the already existed "lettering" section. This rule solves most of the involved tasks.

Despite of that it is a sign of politeness to a reader to describe the position of symbols, which are mentioned in the year distribution section. This is especially important in case if the catalog encourages readers to contribute unpublished yet information. There are cases, when the photo is of one coin, which has symbols in one place, but there are other coins in the same article, where the place of these symbols is different. The section "comments" I believe is ready to accept a description of all these peculiarities.

For it is the catalog, and not a collection of gossip, it will be perfect to see in the article the facts only. It means, that it is OK if necessary to describe that

these coins are known with die letters: ...
Full stop.

No further suggestion or speculation. If you prefer, may add something similar to a note in the Pick catalog:
Readers with unlisted dates, mint marks, die letters etc. are invited to submit their coins to https://en.numista.com/forum/topic55214.html ( this is an example, connect to a link at the forum, created for this purpose, or already existed general one).

As for the 40 members whose coin position should be moved, the Numista Catalog faced such problems constantly, and it successfully solved them in Norway 2 ore and many other cases.

As for the hiding the symbols in the Isle of Man section you are completely right, it looks inconsistent, that in the Great Britain part of the catalog , where there are die letters reader finds the information about them and their position on a coin in hands in any article, where they are mentioned (I sent sample links to the Isle of Man referee in private message), in France section and most others of the Numista catalog every readable symbol and its absence is described properly, but in these regional coins section this information is still not available. Reader of the Isle of Man articles gets from the year distribution section that his coin has not just such year but these and these symbols as well. Still he has to solve riddle, where on his coin he has to look for these small symbols.
Alexander from Cyprus
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Your thoughts are noted.
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Alexander,
'PM.' is actually the mintmark of the Pobjoy Mint - a private mint in England.

The other letters you are referring to are the die letters.

Aidan.
Exactly. Those who know the Isle of Man coinage, do know this and other facts pretty well.

Those who are not familiar with the specifics of the Isle of Man coinage due to the persistent efforts of the current referrer will NEVER understand anything from the articles in the Numista catalogs about any tiny symbol on a coin. That fact that the referee these days plays in snobbery just postpones the time, when this part of Numista catalog will be similar to the rest and will follow the main policy of the catalog's creator and developers.

That is the reason not to use the correct term for PM in Isle of Man sector of the Catalog and just mention it as symbol(s). For the referee of the Isle of Man has the contradictory look on the Isle of Man sector it is better not to use correct terms in his presence.

Here is an example of the attempt to hide the information from a reader for the article https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces15379.html :


with excellent remark, which means let the reader guess or get off.
But there is no neediness for an extra example. Have a look. This topic was created 1.5 month ago, and the referee knowing the solution made no attempt to delete the line in the article https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces7746.html
. Not enough time? Really?
Alexander from Cyprus
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Sir. You are blinded by your own rudeness. If you should care to take a look at the 1/2 pences you would note that changes have been made and are progressing.
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CyprusAlexander please stop. Your over attention to me is strange. Isle of Man is not the only country that details mintmarks in the way you hate. However I seem to be the only ref and nation targeted by your hatefulness. I have started redoing the listings to be inclusive of all ideas of those of us who like Isle of Man. The changes give more information on not just mintmarks, but die letters, privy marks, and their location on the coin. I did not create the bulk of these listings. I am cleaning up and improving descriptions as well as standardizing them. If you were in Oklahoma I would hope for friendship since we both seem to love IOM coinage. But you are not and I just cannot understand where your hate is from.

PS. I am also editing out the portrait designation of the Queen. The different portraits are more than taken care of by the description and the named designer. A fellow ref is creating a Numisdoc detailing all the designs and renditions of the Queen. The IOM listings will be a very beautiful and consistent jewel in the Numista crown.
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