How can I know if is it Rare or not? There are twos in catalog and boths are same .. help me someone please ...thnx

# Help me please with Russian 1 kopek 1957

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Posted: 20-Feb-2017, 10:26PM

Posted: 21-Feb-2017, 05:51AM

Sorry to disappoint you, but you have a more common Y# 119, Schön# 68.

The two types of coins differ by the number of ribbons on wreath. The Y# 112, Schön# 61 has 8 on the left-hand side and 7 on the right-hand side ribbons (16 total including the bottom one) on wreath; while Y# 119, Schön# 68 has 7 ribbons on each side of the wreath (15 total including the bottom one).

Sincerely,

chaosharvard

The two types of coins differ by the number of ribbons on wreath. The Y# 112, Schön# 61 has 8 on the left-hand side and 7 on the right-hand side ribbons (16 total including the bottom one) on wreath; while Y# 119, Schön# 68 has 7 ribbons on each side of the wreath (15 total including the bottom one).

Sincerely,

chaosharvard

Posted: 21-Feb-2017, 11:19AM

Quote: "chaosharvard"Sorry to disappoint you, but you have a more common Y# 119, Schön# 68.oh waw thank you very much good to know .. so i have that one with 15 ribbons .. thank you

The two types of coins differ by the number of ribbons on wreath. The Y# 112, Schön# 61 has 8 on the left-hand side and 7 on the right-hand side ribbons (16 total including the bottom one) on wreath; while Y# 119, Schön# 68 has 7 ribbons on each side of the wreath (15 total including the bottom one).

Sincerely,

chaosharvard

Posted: 21-Feb-2017, 11:21AM

Specifically, the ribbons correspond to the constituent republics of the Soviet Union, and every time there was a reorganization that changed the number of those republics, the ribbon count also changed.

The last such change was in 1956/57 (Karelia integrated into Russia, IIRC), which happened to occur the year before the big coinage reform (which is why the 1957 coins are a one-year type). There were no more big reorganizations prior to 1991, which is why the 1961-1991 coinage has the same types all the way.

I agree that the 11-16-15 ribbon types pretty much look all the same at a glance - especially the 16 and 15 (the earlier 7 ribbon coins are a bit more obvious, due to the very wide ribbons, but still quite similar).

The last such change was in 1956/57 (Karelia integrated into Russia, IIRC), which happened to occur the year before the big coinage reform (which is why the 1957 coins are a one-year type). There were no more big reorganizations prior to 1991, which is why the 1961-1991 coinage has the same types all the way.

I agree that the 11-16-15 ribbon types pretty much look all the same at a glance - especially the 16 and 15 (the earlier 7 ribbon coins are a bit more obvious, due to the very wide ribbons, but still quite similar).

Posted: 21-Feb-2017, 11:29AM

Quote: "January First-of-May"Specifically, the ribbons correspond to the constituent republics of the Soviet Union, and every time there was a reorganization that changed the number of those republics, the ribbon count also changed.thank you .. still something new for my coins knowledge ... hehe

The last such change was in 1956/57 (Karelia integrated into Russia, IIRC), which happened to occur the year before the big coinage reform (which is why the 1957 coins are a one-year type). There were no more big reorganizations prior to 1991, which is why the 1961-1991 coinage has the same types all the way.

I agree that the 11-16-15 ribbon types pretty much look all the same at a glance - especially the 16 and 15 (the earlier 7 ribbon coins are a bit more obvious, due to the very wide ribbons, but still quite similar).

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