Camerinvs
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 16:09
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 16:09
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Hello all,
This was just on the news this morning:
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/03/27/thieves-in-berlin-make-off-with-massive-canadian-gold-coin-worth-millions.html
I suppose it will be melted down at some point if the thief is not caught.
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ashlobo
Joined: 30-Sep-2013
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 16:17
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 16:17
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Sounds a bit ludicrous to me... how do you make off with a 100kilo loot so easily without setting off an alarm. I'm assuming they didn't somehow take it down the ladder and through the same window they came in. Sounds like an inside job to me.
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jokinen
Joined: 10-Feb-2013
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 16:28
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 16:28
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The coin is not in the Numista catalogue. What if someone adds it with a personal picture?
'Well, eh..., it fell off a truck, straight into my hands'
MonaSeaclaid
Joined: 21-Jan-2016
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 16:48
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 16:48
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They just tucked it in with the other loose change in their pocket.
Side question: Why would the Canadian mint make a Canadian coin and give it a face value in US dollars?
jokinen
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 17:11
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 17:11
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Canadian Dollars, not?
MonaSeaclaid
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 17:32
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 17:32
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The article says that the face value is $1 000 000 US.
Beekeeper
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 18:27
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 18:27
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Quote: "MonaSeaclaid"The article says that the face value is $1 000 000 US.
It was a news reporter that gave it that value. Nobody credible!
nthn
Joined: 2-Mar-2015
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 19:12
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 19:12
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That is CRAZY! I would have thought it was fake news if I hadn't found it from other sources.
Oklahoman
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 20:00
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 20:00
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At the Berlin coin show about 10 years ago, i was able to get my picture taken with that coin...big as a pizza it was.
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neilithic
Joined: 28-Mar-2011
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 20:19
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 20:19
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Not as big as the Aussie 1 ton gold coin
pejounet
Joined: 30-Jan-2017
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 20:20
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 20:20
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the USD value in article is solely for the market value given gold weight; face value is only stated as "$1 million".
face value is indeed in canadian dollars, and if you don't plan to steal one of the 4 remaining you can still buy one
here...today market value given by Royal Canadian Mint is "only" around $4 millions USD or $5.35 millions CAD
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asimov37
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 20:22
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 20:22
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neilithic
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 20:29
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 20:29
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Quote: "asimov37"Here she is !
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces23218.html
Numista rarity rating of 95, so at least 2 Numista members are claiming ownership of the coin! Perhaps we should pass their names onto the police
nthn
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 20:39
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 20:39
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BTW, who upload that picture anyway? No copyright.
JWDiaz
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 21:44
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 21:44
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Quote: "Oklahoman"At the Berlin coin show about 19 years ago, i was able to get my picture taken with that coin...big as a pizza it was.
Did you mean to write 9 years ago?
druzhynets
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 21:53
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 21:53
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Quote: "neilithic"
Quote: "asimov37"Here she is !
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces23218.html
Numista rarity rating of 95, so at least 2 Numista members are claiming ownership of the coin! Perhaps we should pass their names onto the police
One of them has a comment to it "I know an owner of this coin...", while the other one has this: "
Will trade for equivalent of lincoln wheat pennies"
ROMAE AETERNAE
Nicola
Joined: 30-Aug-2012
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 22:07
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 22:07
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Here's something similar available for swap
:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces26282.html
Nicola
Oklahoman
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 23:47
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Posted: 27-Mar-2017, 23:47
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Oops...i meant 10 years ago. That aussie coin is amazing!
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andysla
Joined: 11-Sep-2015
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Posted: 28-Mar-2017, 00:53
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Posted: 28-Mar-2017, 00:53
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The Collection of the Bode Museum is amazing
i was more than two hours just looking
I took a picture of the other side of the coin
Sorry no Swaps. Paraguay Post Office is to risky and they don't allow to send coins nor notes
jelle
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Posted: 28-Mar-2017, 16:41
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Posted: 28-Mar-2017, 16:41
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Its already melted, for sure
Pleae check my own coin shop:
https://www.lastdodo.nl/nl/shops/Jelle097
World wide shipping for the real shipping price!
jokinen
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Posted: 28-Mar-2017, 16:59
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Posted: 28-Mar-2017, 16:59
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Quote: "jelle"Its already melted, for sure
That's indeed the most likely scenario.
So we can update the 'coin' sheet with mintage 5 ex., 1 melted.
jelle
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Posted: 28-Mar-2017, 17:10
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Posted: 28-Mar-2017, 17:10
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Quote: "jokinen"
Quote: "jelle"Its already melted, for sure
That's indeed the most likely scenario.
So we can update the 'coin' sheet with mintage 5 ex., 1 melted.
One stolen. But 99.99% change its melted
Pleae check my own coin shop:
https://www.lastdodo.nl/nl/shops/Jelle097
World wide shipping for the real shipping price!
jelle
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Posted: 28-Mar-2017, 17:11
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Posted: 28-Mar-2017, 17:11
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Pleae check my own coin shop:
https://www.lastdodo.nl/nl/shops/Jelle097
World wide shipping for the real shipping price!
smoked_caramel
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Posted: 28-Mar-2017, 18:13
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Posted: 28-Mar-2017, 18:13
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Am I reading the article wrong? The very first original coin was made at RCM.
“So then it became a product that was made on demand and customers who made a non-refundable deposit on the coin had one manufactured for them,” Reeves said. A total of five coins were produced and sold that way, he said. The one stolen in Germany is one of those five.
Does not this statement mean that there are 6 in total?
ashlobo
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Posted: 28-Mar-2017, 18:54
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Posted: 28-Mar-2017, 18:54
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Quote: "smoked_caramel"Am I reading the article wrong? The very first original coin was made at RCM.
“So then it became a product that was made on demand and customers who made a non-refundable deposit on the coin had one manufactured for them,” Reeves said. A total of five coins were produced and sold that way, he said. The one stolen in Germany is one of those five.
Does not this statement mean that there are 6 in total?
The way I understood it is that now 4 remain. Apparently the RCM has a mandate to mint up to 10. However, 4 were sold so far (not including the original one). Atleast that is what i recall from the tour a couple years ago at he Ottawa mint
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smoked_caramel
Joined: 3-Jul-2012
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Posted: 28-Mar-2017, 19:13
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Posted: 28-Mar-2017, 19:13
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Quote: "ashlobo"
Quote: "smoked_caramel"Am I reading the article wrong? The very first original coin was made at RCM.
“So then it became a product that was made on demand and customers who made a non-refundable deposit on the coin had one manufactured for them,” Reeves said. A total of five coins were produced and sold that way, he said. The one stolen in Germany is one of those five.
Does not this statement mean that there are 6 in total?
The way I understood it is that now 4 remain. Apparently the RCM has a mandate to mint up to 10. However, 4 were sold so far (not including the original one). Atleast that is what i recall from the tour a couple years ago at he Ottawa mint
Yeah, that was my understanding so far. I guess the article is a bit misleading with this regard.
redsmithstudios
Joined: 20-Dec-2010
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Posted: 28-Mar-2017, 20:39
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Posted: 28-Mar-2017, 20:39
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How ironic that I just legally acquired this coin and it's up for swap! Just got back from Europe so I need to go "unpack"
Taking a break from swapping for a while, but still interested in pre 1799 Spanish coins, I will make time for that!
Looking for pre 1783 coins
pejounet
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Posted: 28-Mar-2017, 20:43
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Posted: 28-Mar-2017, 20:43
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Quote: "smoked_caramel"
Quote: "ashlobo"
Quote: "smoked_caramel"Am I reading the article wrong? The very first original coin was made at RCM.
“So then it became a product that was made on demand and customers who made a non-refundable deposit on the coin had one manufactured for them,” Reeves said. A total of five coins were produced and sold that way, he said. The one stolen in Germany is one of those five.
Does not this statement mean that there are 6 in total?
The way I understood it is that now 4 remain. Apparently the RCM has a mandate to mint up to 10. However, 4 were sold so far (not including the original one). Atleast that is what i recall from the tour a couple years ago at he Ottawa mint
Yeah, that was my understanding so far. I guess the article is a bit misleading with this regard.
yesterday in the
Globe and Mail : "A Royal Canadian Mint spokesman said five of the giant coins were sold while the sixth remains in a vault in Ottawa."
then I guess this makes 6 in total including the original one; now 4 remaining on "public market" plus the original one in Ottawa.
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neilithic
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Posted: 28-Mar-2017, 23:41
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Posted: 28-Mar-2017, 23:41
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I've got one of them, it's at my other house
redsmithstudios
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Posted: 29-Mar-2017, 02:53
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Posted: 29-Mar-2017, 02:53
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Quote: "neilithic"I've got one of them, it's at my other house
You stole my thunder! that's what I was planning to say to the first person that commented on my post.
Taking a break from swapping for a while, but still interested in pre 1799 Spanish coins, I will make time for that!
Looking for pre 1783 coins
7doktor
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Posted: 29-Mar-2017, 06:41
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Posted: 29-Mar-2017, 06:41
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Someone now has an exclusive sewer hatch.
Camerinvs
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Posted: 29-Mar-2017, 16:27
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Posted: 29-Mar-2017, 16:27
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Hello all,
Even if you don't understand German, have
a look at this video where you see how the coin is moved around. You also see the building where it was stolen from.
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redsmithstudios
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Posted: 30-Mar-2017, 15:40
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Posted: 30-Mar-2017, 15:40
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It reminds me of a solid gold tub in Japan that was stolen. I think if you have a huge piece gold, you shouldn't tell anyone.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/18932146
Taking a break from swapping for a while, but still interested in pre 1799 Spanish coins, I will make time for that!
Looking for pre 1783 coins
redsmithstudios
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Posted: 30-Mar-2017, 15:44
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Taking a break from swapping for a while, but still interested in pre 1799 Spanish coins, I will make time for that!
Looking for pre 1783 coins
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