loruca
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Posted: 22-Apr-2017, 23:09
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Posted: 22-Apr-2017, 23:09
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There seem to be two variations of this coin listed in Krauze and our catalogue, "Lima" and "Lima AP" can anyone explain what the difference is ?
Loruca
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ZacUK
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Posted: 22-Apr-2017, 23:15
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Posted: 22-Apr-2017, 23:15
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https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces20240.html
Above the date, the ends of the stalks have A and P ...
loruca
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Posted: 22-Apr-2017, 23:19
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Posted: 22-Apr-2017, 23:19
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Quote: "ZacUK"https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces20240.html
Above the date, the ends of the stalks have A and P ...
is the coin without the initials therefore the rare variety? This coin has a trillion die problems, appears to be a doubled die overdate and over struck all at the same time...
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ZacUK
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Posted: 22-Apr-2017, 23:26
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Posted: 22-Apr-2017, 23:26
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I do not think so - more members have the 1935 LIMA than the 1935 LIMA AP coin. Though
if it is worn then the AP may no longer be visible.
loruca
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Posted: 22-Apr-2017, 23:27
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Posted: 22-Apr-2017, 23:27
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Quote: "ZacUK" I do not think so - more members
have the 1935 LIMA than the 1935 LIMA AP coin.
That's interesting... So do you think Krauze might be wrong?
(wouldn't be the first time)
Also Ebay would suggest Krauze is right.
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BryanJ
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Posted: 24-Apr-2017, 10:27
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Quote: "loruca"
Quote: "ZacUK" I do not think so - more members
have the 1935 LIMA than the 1935 LIMA AP coin.
That's interesting... So do you think Krauze might be wrong?
(wouldn't be the first time)
The number of each type as recorded in Numista may not reflect what members actually have: some people who don't care about mint marks would choose randomly or the "simplest" type (without mintmark) or the first type in the list, also as stated the mintmark may have disappeared. In this case I'd trust Krause over Numista.
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Posted: 24-Jul-2021, 15:38
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Posted: 24-Jul-2021, 15:38
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Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
christianvl
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Posted: 24-Jul-2021, 19:52
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Posted: 24-Jul-2021, 19:52
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The 1935 silver (0.500) 1/2 Sol is the last of this series (1922-1935), before the new brass 1/2 Sol was introduced that same year.
The initials AP stand for Armando Pareja , the most important peruvian engraver in de 20the century, who worked at the Lima mint for almost 50 years.
Following peruvian collectors and experience, the coins with AP are more frequent than those without. Many pieces considered "without AP" are simply worn out.
By the way, Armando Pareja also engraved (and designed) the new brass coins (5,10,20 Centavos, 1/2 Sol and 1 Sol), which circulated in Peru till 1965.
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Sjoelund
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Posted: 24-Jul-2021, 20:04
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Posted: 24-Jul-2021, 20:04
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Hi,
can you agree to this then
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christianvl
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Posted: 24-Jul-2021, 22:04
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Posted: 24-Jul-2021, 22:04
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Hi Sjoelund,
Not exactly.
There are actually 1/2 Sol coins without AP !!
What I am saying -based on peruvian experience- is , that a worn coin is very often thought to be "without AP".
So, a 1/2 Sol "without AP" is more difficult to identify , thus less common than a 1/2 Sol "with AP", about which you have the certainty when you see the initials AP.
That is the reason, why the coin without AP is considered in Peru less common than the coin with AP.
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