Tokens Exonumia

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What are the different between Tokens, Exonumia, and Exonumia bullion?
I have some .925 silver coins to add and want to be sure they go to the right category.
I have no idea.
Tokens are a form of exonumia, so I guess exonumia includes medals?

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SRL
Tokens are coins that did or could have (or have a face value) been used for some type of money at one type, exonumia are things that never were, such as medals. Your bullion coins would be under exonumia.
Quote: "nthn"​Tokens are coins that did or could have (or have a face value) been used for some type of money at one type, exonumia are things that never were, such as medals. Your bullion coins would be under exonumia.
​If bullion coins belong in the Exonumia section, then there is an extensive amount of "COINS" the need to be moved .. !!!
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Quote: "nthn"​Tokens are coins that did or could have (or have a face value) been used for some type of money at one type, exonumia are things that never were, such as medals. Your bullion coins would be under exonumia.
​This is 100% right.

Bullion in Exonumia are those objects that do not have Face Value, so they are not money in the law terms.
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Quote: "nthn"​Tokens are coins that did or could have (or have a face value) been used for some type of money at one type, exonumia are things that never were, such as medals. Your bullion coins would be under exonumia.
​​This is 100% right.

​Bullion in Exonumia are those objects that do not have Face Value, so they are not money in the law terms.
​OK ... Then which is this: a coin or bullion ...?

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces41814.html
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A coin. ;)
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Quote: "Jarcek"​A coin. ;)
​Then "Bullion Coinage" needs to be deleted ....

It's either a coin or it's bullion, can't be both .. OR create a new category in Numismatics of "Bullion Coinage"
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Some countries indeed have bullion coinage category, for easier search.
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Quote: "Jarcek"​Some countries indeed have bullion coinage category, for easier search.
​Why is it only be some. It should be all ...
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What would be bullion? Gold and silver for sure. Copper? Aluminum? Any token would have some melt value.
Bullion coins usually have no denomination and instead have the weight in g or ounce (oz.) on them.
Also to be in the coin section they have to be minted by official mints and not private non official mints.
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Quote: "Jarcek"​Some countries indeed have bullion coinage category, for easier search.
​​Why is it only be some. It should be all ...
​Mainly it is those that have many such coins.
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Quote: "Jarcek"
Quote: "nthn"​Tokens are coins that did or could have (or have a face value) been used for some type of money at one type, exonumia are things that never were, such as medals. Your bullion coins would be under exonumia.
​​​This is 100% right.
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​​Bullion in Exonumia are those objects that do not have Face Value, so they are not money in the law terms.
​​OK ... Then which is this: a coin or bullion ...?

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces41814.html
​To know which place to put bullion coins, you must go based on the above definition. Bullion coins (exonumia, tokens) should be placed not based on that they are bullion, but where they fit based on the above definition.
So, from all the answers, from all the team members and refs, it appears as though this is a BS topic and nothing will be done to correct anything ..
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I don't believe that there is anything wrong?
Quote: "nthn"​I don't believe that there is anything wrong?
​Then there is no use for me to waste my time ... Have a good day ....
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Your Australian 10 cent coin is a silver bullion issue and is not exonumic or medallic. It is a bullion coin. How is this difficult?
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This is a very confusing topic. I have many 1 oz. silver bullion "coins" that show both the weight in Troy Ounces of .999 pure silver, but also show a numeric monetary value, in fact just about all of my silver bullion "coins" show both.

Also, I have been buying coins from Cabinda, which is an exclave and province of Angola. Their coins show the name of the bank that guarantee their value, the date the coin was released, and the monetary value of the coin. So why are they considered to be exonumia "fantasy" coins? Don't people use them as legal tender to buy things in their country/province, etc? The same can be said about the islands of Mafia, Nightingale, Alhucemas, Chafarinas, etc.
Who/what decides if a coin is considered money, and when is it exonumia or a "fantasy" coinage?
D-Train,
To be coins, they have to be issued on authority of a recognized government, have a denomination and be legal to use for payment in the territory of such government. Cabinda and most of the places you mention do not have the authority to issue coins and only the money of their "parent" areas can be used for payment in their territories. Thus the coins are fantasy exonumia. Your "coins" are strictly meant to be sold to collectors who like them as artwork, think they will gain value, or are fooled into thinking they are legitimately issued as coins while they are privately issued only to make the private mints some cash for their pockets. Such fantasy exonumia most likely never appear in the geographical areas named on them. If you like them for some reason, fine, but don't call them legitimate coins.

Will
Thanks Will, I appreciate the information. I’ve been reading some other discussions on here about this subject and there was a link in one of them to a website where the Cabinda “coins” I’ve been buying were designated as “fakes”. That’s OK with me because, like you said, I bought them because I love the designs and think they are very interesting. They sure do fetch a decent price on eBay though because of their perceived scarcity. They certainly fooled me. One coin I actually paid $37 for when I outbid another guy who bid $36. Yikes!
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Quote: "nthn"​Tokens are coins that did or could have (or have a face value) been used for some type of money at one type, exonumia are things that never were, such as medals. Your bullion coins would be under exonumia.
​​This is 100% right.

​Bullion in Exonumia are those objects that do not have Face Value, so they are not money in the law terms.
​That's very confusing to me. I know wiki is not the best place to look at for information but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exonumia says that they are good for tokens as well which contradicts the token idea.

Edit: I think I figured out what confused me so much.... never mind..... Still, some of the tokens I have seen may need to be put in a different category.
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