sc.rednek
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Posted: 15-Jul-2018, 04:07
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NEW THREAD IS HERE
It has much simplified rules
Thinking it's time to re-start? A few rules this time to make it more interesting, nothing overly difficult just time constraints, to keep things organized and let people participate.
Principles:
--We like to show off our cool coins!
--Feel free to compliment or ask questions, but let's try not to derail the thread too much.
Rules:
--No limit on number of users who can post a year, as long as they're within the time block and meet the other rules. (A post doesn't "claim" a year, multiple users can share per year)
--At most two coins per user per year (4 pictures), preferably all in the same post.
--Must be a picture of your coin, currently your collection, that you took. Not what you just ordered on ebay, or sold last year, or the photo from the numista catalog, etc
--If nobody posts that year in a time block, the year is extended in one "block" increments until someone posts. I'll try to keep the page updated with respect to those delays, but no promises.
--No tokens or exonumia unless the 1st time block has expired without a post.
--A link to the Numista catalog of your coin is required on all posts. If it's not in the catalog, help out and add it, just let us know the request is submitted and we'll let you slide without a link! We all like easy clicks to see more info on coins we want to know more about. That's half the point of these threads, right?
--Don't use the same coin as you did in previous "by year" threads, unless the 1st time block has expired.
--Arabic dates count for the year they MOST overlap.
First 250 years (2018 till 1769)
--8 hour time block per year, Zulu midnight, 8 am, and 4 pm. (For me in US Central Time, that's 7 pm (day before), 3 am, and 11 am).
--Try to limit it to less common or odd coins
Next 250 years (1768-1519)
--24 hr time block, starting at Zulu midnight. (For me in US Central Time Zone, that is 7 pm the day before)
More than 500 years old (1518-older)
--72 hr time block
--Once we're in the 3rd time block (6-9 days) if nobody has posted the exact date, then post a coin identifiable to that date range, and we'll move back one year. It will stop being an official "by year" thread, but it will be fun and let people keep posting their cool stuff.
sc.rednek
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Zulu Time. If you're not sure, just put "zulu time" into Google and it will tell you
2018 Midnight 15 July
2017 8 AM
2016 4 PM
2016 Midnight 16 July
2016 8 AM
2015 4 PM
2014 Midnight 17 July
2013 8 AM
2012 4 PM
2011 Midnight 18 July
2010 8 AM
2009 4 PM
2008 Midnight 19 July
2007 8 AM
2007 4 PM
2006 Midnight 20 July
2005 8 AM
2004 4 PM
2003 Midnight 19 July
2002 8 AM
2002 4 PM
2001 Midnight 18 July -- current
2000--stand by for a new thread incorporating simplified rules and times
CassTaylor
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Posted: 15-Jul-2018, 05:32
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I'm not an admin, but I'll maybe help you out with the thread if things get too hectic in the future.
I really like the initiative though, & I'll be participating and following this thread like the last one. Only complaint is that some of the rules might be
too restrictive, like the one about no coins lower than 85 NRI (which isn't necessarily a reliable indicator of rarity anyway); and what about rare dates/types of common coins?
Glad to see that our community (by far and large, anyway) is enjoying these kinds of participation threads I inspired.
sc.rednek
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Posted: 15-Jul-2018, 05:38
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Quote: "CassTaylor"Only complaint is that some of the rules might be too restrictive, like the one about no coins lower than 85 NRI (which isn't necessarily a reliable indicator of rarity).
Trying to keep it from being pocket change, and more about sharing of less common coins. And there's not really a better measuring stick I can use here, than the catalog of this forum itself. If after a little bit it seems the cutoff line or amount it reduces every 8 hrs if no posts, isn't quite right, I'll change it
Thank you for the support Cass!
sc.rednek
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Posted: 15-Jul-2018, 05:47
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Quote: "CassTaylor" and what about rare dates/types of common coins?
And Paragraph 3, Section 2, Sub-Section 1 of the rulebook, addresses that issue
phfoticus
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Posted: 15-Jul-2018, 05:57
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I'd suggest dropping the rarity requirement altogether, if nobody posts anything in the "prime" time block.
Also, if nobody posts in the prime time block, why not remove the Numista catalog requirement? A lot of older coins simply aren't there in the catalog. I gave up adding anything new after having problems (double entries, or something like that). Also, the thread could be stuck for weeks or months waiting for a coin to be added.
I'd also suggest only looking back one version of this thread to see if the coin was posted last time. I think there are at least two older date-oriented threads here at Numista.
If you want to see smooth-running date threads, look at the "how far back can we go?" threads over at Coin Community Forum (CCF). The rules have evolved across 5 editions of the thread, and they are simple enough that nobody needs to update the thread title, etc. (until the threads start getting stuck back in the 1490s.)
phfoticus
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Posted: 15-Jul-2018, 06:06
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Posted: 15-Jul-2018, 06:06
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I guess it's time for this one?
2018 -- Australia, 30 dollars:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces124798.html
Rarity is 95 (probably because the coin is quite new?)
sc.rednek
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Posted: 15-Jul-2018, 06:10
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Posted: 15-Jul-2018, 06:10
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Perfect! moving to 2017 in a few hours
CassTaylor
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Posted: 15-Jul-2018, 06:14
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Yeah, I agree; maybe a good compromise is to have coins above (for example) 75 NRI for the first block, and for the second block is basically anything reasonably good* for that year?
That would also get around cases where the rarity index isn't appropriate for determining rarity, e.g. if I had a 1895 proof Morgan Dollar, that would count to most as a "rare" coin, but the Morgan Dollar coin page has a NRI of just 6.
*Open to interpretation, but I think we all have some basic idea of what that is.
sc.rednek
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Posted: 15-Jul-2018, 06:18
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I switched it to 85 for the first block, but drops 15 each subsequent 8 hrs. So if not right away, at least within 24 hrs since it'll be at 55
And that's why I posted the exception under that rule, basically just rare coins the first 250 years. I don't know of any standard to use other than NRI and not looking to see everyone's 2017 pocket change...
Maybe use the PCGS rarity scale? But that's put more demand on people to look it up
sc.rednek
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Posted: 15-Jul-2018, 06:46
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QuoteRarity is 95 (probably because the coin is quite new?)
Or maybe because it's $543 worth of silver?
phfoticus
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Posted: 15-Jul-2018, 06:50
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Perhaps we could just get rid of the rarity requirement altogether -- just ask posters to post interesting coins, not pocket change. We don't have any rarity rule over at the CCF threads, and I don't think those threads are cluttered with pocket change.
Also, could somebody put a link to all the prior versions of this thread that need to be checked for duplicate postings?
Here's the latest old thread:
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic61544.html
sc.rednek
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Posted: 15-Jul-2018, 07:04
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Quote: "phfoticus"Perhaps we could just get rid of the rarity requirement altogether -- just ask posters to post interesting coins, not pocket change. We don't have any rarity rule over at the CCF threads, and I don't think those threads are cluttered with pocket change.
Also, could somebody put a link to all the prior versions of this thread that need to be checked for duplicate postings?
Here's the latest old thread: https://en.numista.com/forum/topic61544.html
I didn't know of a better measuring stick to use, especially for Numista.com users. And it's not a hard and fast rule, since I included that exception under it for weird cases (like my 1838-O half dime, that I will be posting...), or if an 8 yr old kid wants to share his indian head penny. But OK, I'm going to add the word "Suggestion" to the front, will that make everyone happy?
Checking every post to previous threads? I'll leave that up to you, I was just going with the honor system...
alfonz
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Posted: 15-Jul-2018, 13:29
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Rarity 85 is really hard if you dont own absurd bullion coins like that 1 kg silver coin or tourist coins from 3rd world country's and I personally wont call such coin "interesting" but thats just my opinion
. Even most of my 17th century coins are in the 70s of the rarity index. Earlier coins from the medieval times and the roman, greece etc. antique are most times at around 88 (at least the ones I own) and old English/English colonial penny tokens often are higher than 90. Together with 5 roman coins I have around 15 coins higher than 85 in the rarity index.
CassTaylor
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Posted: 15-Jul-2018, 14:13
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Quote: "sc.rednek"
Quote: "phfoticus"Perhaps we could just get rid of the rarity requirement altogether -- just ask posters to post interesting coins, not pocket change. We don't have any rarity rule over at the CCF threads, and I don't think those threads are cluttered with pocket change.
Also, could somebody put a link to all the prior versions of this thread that need to be checked for duplicate postings?
Here's the latest old thread: https://en.numista.com/forum/topic61544.html
I didn't know of a better measuring stick to use, especially for Numista.com users. And it's not a hard and fast rule, since I included that exception under it for weird cases (like my 1838-O half dime, that I will be posting...), or if an 8 yr old kid wants to share his indian head penny. But OK, I'm going to add the word "Suggestion" to the front, will that make everyone happy?
Checking every post to previous threads? I'll leave that up to you, I was just going with the honor system...
Honour system it is!
And I think it's a good thing to make the NRI thing an informal suggestion rather than a rule. It'll let more people participate and I think most people have a reasonable threshold as to what constitutes "pocket change".
phfoticus
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Posted: 15-Jul-2018, 14:55
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2017 -- Canada, 3 dollars:
This coin is part of my OFEG (One For Each Gimmick) subcollection, and represents coins with glued-on pieces of glass ("Swarovski Crystals" in this case).
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces102584.html
The rarity is 93, perhaps because the RCM puts out too many of these coins and can't sell very many of each type?
I have more interesting coins for 2017, but their rarity rating is too low for this thread's suggested guidelines. My next coin that satisfies the guidelines is another OFEG coin from 2015, although there are much more interesting but common coins that I could post for this thread. After the 2015 coin, I don't have much that qualifies as rare, so perhaps I'll mostly lurk until we get back 250 years.
CassTaylor
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Posted: 15-Jul-2018, 18:01
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@phfoticus
Eh, I don't have much that qualifies as rare either until at least the early 20th century (before WWII); so I think if that year is going slow, and you have a coin that isn't a washer, go for it.
From what I've seen previously, you have some very nice coins, by the way!
phfoticus
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Posted: 16-Jul-2018, 15:52
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I hadn't noticed the updated rules, but now I see you can post anything (presumably with the proper date) after the first 8 hours. With that in mind:
2016 -- US, 1 dollar:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces84530.html
rarity index = 79 (but that doesn't include mine)
phfoticus
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Posted: 17-Jul-2018, 02:39
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2015 -- Canada, 25 dollars:
Another coin in my OFEG subcollection (colorized/painted)
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces98105.html
Rarity index = 97 -- apparently, these gimmicky coins aren't too popular.
CassTaylor
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Posted: 17-Jul-2018, 02:41
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I think you're going to be carrying the thread mainly, at least until we get out of the new millennium.
I have something to upload for 2014, even though it's not rare or anything; still interesting enough to warrant a post though.
phfoticus
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Posted: 17-Jul-2018, 02:50
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At some point, I guess I'll have to suspend posting until someone else posts something.
I'm not sure what the problem with this thread is -- the prior year thread had no shortage of posters.
CassTaylor
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Posted: 17-Jul-2018, 02:56
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I think people read the rarity rule and got turned off; perhaps OP should update the thread's title with "Rarity requirement only a suggestion", or "feel free to post anything reasonably interesting", or something to that effect, just to make it clear that the restrictive rule is no more.
Either that or we still haven't gotten back to the period when more users will have coins "worth posting" (for lack of a better word); in the 2000s it's still going to be mostly coins like yours.
phfoticus
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Posted: 17-Jul-2018, 03:10
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I'd certainly vote for scrapping the rarity rule -- the old Numista thread didn't have one, and I don't think most people posted their pocket change on that thread.
Another complication is the 8-hour posting window -- a 12-hour or 24-hour window would be easier to remember. Suppose the yearly posting windows were 00z-12z and 12z-24z. It would be easy to remember that the windows start at 8:00AM and 8:00PM here (7:00AM and 7:00PM in the winter).
I remember that it took quite a few iterations over at CCF to refine the "How far back can we go" posting rules to get around early teething problems.
sc.rednek
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Posted: 17-Jul-2018, 04:19
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Quote: "phfoticus"I'd certainly vote for scrapping the rarity rule -- the old Numista thread didn't have one, and I don't think most people posted their pocket change on that thread.
Ok, it's scrapped completely... I thought it would makes things more interesting, but just seems to be stressing everyone out
CassTaylor
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Posted: 17-Jul-2018, 04:36
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Aye, I think you made the right decision.
Just have it as an informal suggestion to "not post change", and post interesting things.
CassTaylor
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Posted: 17-Jul-2018, 05:13
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Anyway, for 2014:
2014 Transnistria 1, 3, 5, 10 Roubles
Skirting the rule about only two coins per post a bit; but I already had photos of the whole set so here they are. They're issues from Transnistria, an internationally-unrecognised state located in Eastern Moldova. The thing about these is I assumed they were plastic, but the Numista pages only (vaguely) list "Composite material".
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces64480.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces64482.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces64483.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces64484.html
phfoticus
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alfonz
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I swear this is no pocket change
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Our holy father Pope Franziskus on a 50 Cent coin. I think its like impossible to find Euro coins from Vatican or Monaco in circulation but you can correct me if you had more luck on that? Possibly this will be the last coin for a while showing the portrait of a pope cause Franziskus seems to have no interest in appearing on coins anymore? Well we will see what the next pope does.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces58727.html
phfoticus
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2013 -- Argentina, 1 peso:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces46419.html
Rarity index = 9, but still interesting -- glad the rules were changed
sc.rednek
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Posted: 17-Jul-2018, 19:04
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2012 Kazakhstan 500 Tenge, silver ring with a tantalum center
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces37295.html
Not the best pictures but I didn't want to take it out of the plastic case
This is tantalum:
CassTaylor
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Posted: 17-Jul-2018, 19:16
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@sc.rednek
Could you put the updated year (the bit on the original post that says "Current Year: XXXX") in the title please? It would be a lot better there.
sc.rednek
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Posted: 17-Jul-2018, 19:20
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Quote: "CassTaylor"@sc.rednek
Could you put the updated year (the bit on the original post that says "Current Year: XXXX") in the title please? It would be a lot better there.
Didn't realize I could edit the title! Learn something new every day... Now if there was only a tool to do the 3AM update automatically...
CassTaylor
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Posted: 17-Jul-2018, 21:09
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Quote: "sc.rednek"
Quote: "CassTaylor"@sc.rednek
Could you put the updated year (the bit on the original post that says "Current Year: XXXX") in the title please? It would be a lot better there.
Didn't realize I could edit the title! Learn something new every day... Now if there was only a tool to do the 3AM update automatically...
No need to thank me :)
I also suggest starting a new thread once we hit 1900 and every 100 years hence, since this is a thread where multiple coins will likely be posted per year by various people, unlike the old thread which was one per year, it'll fill up much faster.
phfoticus
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ZacUK
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2010 - United Kingdom - 2 Pounds - Silver
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces18524.html with gold embellishments
2010 - Turkey - 1 Lira - Turkish Angora Cat
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces21052.html
Essor Prof
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Posted: 18-Jul-2018, 22:52
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Quote: "phfoticus"I'm not sure what the problem with this thread is -- the prior year thread had no shortage of posters.
- Too many rules. And don't worry about posting pocket money. The limitation of 2 coins per user per year is a nice rule to avoid that. Of course members will try to post their most interesting coins and not their pocket money. Another rule which chase people away: don't expect posters are first going to check in other threads to see if a coin is already posted anywhere else over the years.
- And like you said: the 8-hour posting window is too complicated. Keep it simple and use a 24-hour window, from midnight to midnight. I know this will make the thread last longer but you will have more posters.
Essor Prof
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2010 - Congo, Democratic Republic - 10 Francs, Sloth
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces133512.html
Rarity index = 97
2010 - Fiji - 1 Dollar, Nelspruit
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces78199.html
Rarity index = 97
CassTaylor
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Posted: 18-Jul-2018, 23:35
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Quote: "Essor Prof"
Quote: "phfoticus"I'm not sure what the problem with this thread is -- the prior year thread had no shortage of posters.
- Too many rules. And don't worry about posting pocket money. The limitation of 2 coins per user per year is a nice rule to avoid that. Of course members will try to post their most interesting coins and not their pocket money. Another rule which chase people away: don't expect posters are first going to check in other threads to see if a coin is already posted anywhere else over the years.
- And like you said: the 8-hour posting window is too complicated. Keep it simple and use a 24-hour window, from midnight to midnight. I know this will make the thread last longer but you will have more posters.
Perhaps we could start implementing a 24 hour window from 1999 onwards?
phfoticus
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2009 -- Kazakhstan, 50 tenge:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces16747.html
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Also, the 2009 500 tenge (one of those tantalum coins mentioned earlier):
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces16747.html
Rarity index is 90 -- must be that not too many Numista folks want tantalum coins. I'd like to see coins made of iridium, osmium (maybe), ruthenium, rhodium, and especially rhenium (as long as radioactivity is not problematic).
phfoticus
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Quote: "CassTaylor"Perhaps we could start implementing a 24 hour window from 1999 onwards?
Using a 24-hour window starting at 00z would certainly make things easier to remember.
sc.rednek
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Posted: 19-Jul-2018, 01:10
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Quote: "phfoticus"Rarity index is 90 -- must be that not too many Numista folks want tantalum coins. I'd like to see coins made of iridium, osmium (maybe), ruthenium, rhodium, and especially rhenium (as long as radioactivity is not problematic).
I got a tantalum coin specifically because it was different! And I thought the Baikonur Cosmodrome best exemplified Kazakhstan, the others seemed like mostly Russian accomplishments. Hopefully when we get to 1931 somebody will post their Antimony coin!
CassTaylor
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Posted: 19-Jul-2018, 01:14
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Quote: "phfoticus"
Quote: "CassTaylor"Perhaps we could start implementing a 24 hour window from 1999 onwards?
Using a 24-hour window starting at 00z would certainly make things easier to remember.
@sc.rednek
If you like I could help "announce" the new year like I do for the coins/banknotes per country alphabetically threads at 00:00 GMT everyday (give or take a couple of hours either way). You'd have to be the one to change the title date, though, since that's something only the thread author can do.
sc.rednek
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Quote: "CassTaylor"
Quote: "phfoticus"
Quote: "CassTaylor"Perhaps we could start implementing a 24 hour window from 1999 onwards?
Using a 24-hour window starting at 00z would certainly make things easier to remember.
@sc.rednek
If you like I could help "announce" the new year like I do for the coins/banknotes per country alphabetically threads at 00:00 GMT everyday (give or take a couple of hours either way). You'd have to be the one to change the title date, though, since that's something only the thread author can do.
considering everything mentioned, I'm going to keep it exactly like it is until starting a new thread at either 2000 or 1990. I agree 8 hours is tough, particularly since it's tough for me to update the 3 AM changeover. Considering 12 hours though, at least it won't be a year to get to the more fun stuff?
Also, in 45 minutes, 2008
CassTaylor
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Alright, it's your call; the 12 hour window sounds reasonable. I suggest new thread at 2000.
phfoticus
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Essor Prof
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Quote: "phfoticus"I guess it's 2008 time --
No it's not! It's still 2009 till 8.00 AM. Another proof 8 hour windows are much too complicated when even you as highest poster in this thread lose track of time.
Besides 8 hour windows are not only too complicated, it's just plain stupid. Normal people sleep 8 hours, so if they go to bed at midnight they already miss a window. Normal people work 8 hours a day, so again they will miss a window. People will lose interest and will drop out if they can't participate for every year.
Essor Prof
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Quote: "CassTaylor"Perhaps we could start implementing a 24 hour window from 1999 onwards?
Why wait from 1999 onwards and not start immediately? With so little posters it's obvious something is wrong, so don't wait till every drops out. Little posters probably also means little viewers so change something to make it more interesting for everyone so you can attract more viewers and participants.
Essor Prof
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2009 - Congo, Democratic Republic - 10 Francs, Zebra
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces133530.html
Rarity index = 97
2009 - Palau - 1 Dollar, Walhalla - Arminius
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces88384.html
Rarity index = 93
alfonz
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Quote: "Essor Prof"
2009 - Palau - 1 Dollar, Walhalla - Arminius
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces88384.html
Rarity index = 93
Quite sad that there is no German commemorative about those monuments
(Except the Geschichtstaler from the time when it was build)
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Quote: "sc.rednek"Considering 12 hours though, at least it won't be a year to get to the more fun stuff?
Why do we bother to post something if what we post so far is not fun/interesting enough?
Why not starting in 1900 then in stead of 2018?
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Ok, I think after 2000 sc.rednek should start a new thread; with 24 hour windows per year, and only a rarity suggestion.
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Quote: "sc.rednek"
Quote: "CassTaylor"
Quote: "phfoticus"
Quote: "CassTaylor"Perhaps we could start implementing a 24 hour window from 1999 onwards?
Using a 24-hour window starting at 00z would certainly make things easier to remember.
@sc.rednek
If you like I could help "announce" the new year like I do for the coins/banknotes per country alphabetically threads at 00:00 GMT everyday (give or take a couple of hours either way). You'd have to be the one to change the title date, though, since that's something only the thread author can do.
considering everything mentioned, I'm going to keep it exactly like it is until starting a new thread at either 2000 or 1990. I agree 8 hours is tough, particularly since it's tough for me to update the 3 AM changeover. Considering 12 hours though, at least it won't be a year to get to the more fun stuff?
Also, in 45 minutes, 2008
I was going by this last remark, and posted the 2008 an hour or so afterward.
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2007 -- US, 25 dollars:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces23131.html
Rarity rating = 92 (for the whole 12-year series) -- must be that fractional ounce platinum coins are unpopular here at Numista?
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2007 - Congo, Democratic Republic - 10 Francs, Buffalo
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces22790.html
Rarity index = 94
2007 - Falkland Islands - 1 Crown, Charles Darwin
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces69421.html
Rarity index = 93
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2006 - British Virgin Islands - 1 Dollar, Elizabeth II and Philip on their thrones
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces109530.html
Rarity index = 97
2006 - British Virgin Islands - 1 Dollar, Young Elizabeth II and her mother
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces109531.html
Rarity index = 97
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It looks like it's time for 2006 (starting 8PM here) --
2006 -- Kazakhstan, 50 tenge:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces12702.html
Rarity Index = 33, but still an interesting design
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In a few days, I'll start a new thread starting at either 2000 or 1999 - until then I'm going to continue the annoying 8 hrs per year rather than change, so looking at beginning the new thread in 2-ish days.
Within those next 2 days, lets get all the complaints and re-wording and changes taken care of, so it doesn't clog up the new thread, I don't want to hear any complaints about rules once it's started, now's the chance to make it right! And yeah not everyone agree, but lets get to somewhere acceptable. Here's what I'm proposing:
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18 July, 1999
Rules/Suggestions:
--MUST (this is the most absolute rule)
include a link to the numista catalog for the coin(s) you're showing, so it's easy for people to see more info. If it's not in the catalog, MUST create a new catalog entry and state that you've done so. We all like easy clicks to see more info on coins we want to know more about, and if not, expanding the catalog is always great! That's half the point of these threads, right?
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24 hours per year, starting at Zulu/UTC/GMT midnight (google "zulu time" if you're unsure what time it is). If nobody posts during a 24 hr period, that year continues for another 24 hr period, and so on until someone posts.
--No limit on number of users who can post for a particular year, as long as they're within that year's 24 hrs (As in, first post doesn't "claim" a year,
unlimited users can share per year)
--At most
two coins per user per year (4 pictures), all in the same post to help keep the thread clean. (exception for sets/series, but limit those to one picture per side for the whole set, so 2 pictures total)
--Must be a picture of
your coin, currently in your collection, that you took yourself. Not what you just ordered on ebay, or a coin you sold last year, or the photo from the numista catalog, etc. Pull out your actual coin, take a picture, and share. Even if the ebay picture was better, don't care want to see your picture.
--Feel free to compliment or ask questions, but let's try
not to derail the thread too much. Start another thread or use PMs if the side conversation is going more than a couple posts.
--Non-Gregorian dated...
---- dates count for the Gregorian year they MOST overlap.
THIS should work for Arabic until 1700 if you need it. (Date is when the AH year starts, if it's after July 1st then it most overlaps the next calendar year)
---- One year non-dated coins, count as that year.
Once we're in the 1500's...
--Don't use the same coin as you did in previous "by year" threads, until the first 24 hrs has expired without a post (This is a "same user AND same coin" rule, not OR)
--After 3 days without a post of that year
---- a non-dated coin attributed to a range, covering that year, will count for that year.
---- This will cease to be a "by year" thread, but I think it will let us keep having fun, and let users share medieval coins that rarely can be shared in threads like this
---- subsequent non-dated patterns that move it back another year, have to be a different design (preferably COMPLETELY different, not just a different mintmark or something)
Attack these now, cause in 3 days I want to just post without tons of complaints
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For Islamic dates (and other calendars) I recommend just posting it to the year it correlates to in the Numista listing, for convenience's sake.
Also, is "Zulu Time" just GMT?
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Quote: "CassTaylor"For Islamic dates (and other calendars) I recommend just posting it to the year it correlates to in the Numista listing, for convenience's sake.
Also, is "Zulu Time" just GMT?
It's more work, but I guess I could, I figured the link would take care of that question for the next 300 years and I'd deal with it after that.
essentially, yeah. Zulu is a more accurate term. I'll fix it to say Zulu/GMT. I guess it's only the military that uses zulu time as an everyday term?
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I guess it's 2005 time right now, based on the schedule (and not the thread title)?
2005 -- Poland, 2 zlote:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces17632.html
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Quote: "phfoticus"I guess it's 2005 time right now, based on the schedule (and not the thread title)?
oops, yeah. And in 30 minutes 2004. I think 24 hr periods will be a good change. 12 hours would definitely be easier, but 24 the easiest. although will make it slower
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Quote: "sc.rednek"
Quote: "CassTaylor"For Islamic dates (and other calendars) I recommend just posting it to the year it correlates to in the Numista listing, for convenience's sake.
Also, is "Zulu Time" just GMT?
It's more work, but I guess I could, I figured the link would take care of that question for the next 300 years and I'd deal with it after that.
essentially, yeah. Zulu is a more accurate term. I'll fix it to say Zulu/GMT. I guess it's only the military that uses zulu time as an everyday term?
I think the US National Weather Service uses Zulu as well:
http://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=gfs&p=qpf_acc&rh=2018072006&fh=72&r=us_ne&dpdt=
(Notice the times stated as 06z, for example)
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Quote: "phfoticus"
Quote: "sc.rednek"
Quote: "CassTaylor"For Islamic dates (and other calendars) I recommend just posting it to the year it correlates to in the Numista listing, for convenience's sake.
Also, is "Zulu Time" just GMT?
It's more work, but I guess I could, I figured the link would take care of that question for the next 300 years and I'd deal with it after that.
essentially, yeah. Zulu is a more accurate term. I'll fix it to say Zulu/GMT. I guess it's only the military that uses zulu time as an everyday term?
I think the US National Weather Service uses Zulu as well:
http://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=gfs&p=qpf_acc&rh=2018072006&fh=72&r=us_ne&dpdt=
(Notice the times stated as 06z, for example)
everything official uses zulu time. Should I be saying GMT instead?
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2004 -- Nagorno-Karabakh, 5 dram:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces2408.html
Rarity rating = 14 -- for a one-year type it seems to be very common among Numista folks
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Quote: "sc.rednek"
Quote: "CassTaylor"For Islamic dates (and other calendars) I recommend just posting it to the year it correlates to in the Numista listing, for convenience's sake.
Also, is "Zulu Time" just GMT?
It's more work, but I guess I could, I figured the link would take care of that question for the next 300 years and I'd deal with it after that.
essentially, yeah. Zulu is a more accurate term. I'll fix it to say Zulu/GMT. I guess it's only the military that uses zulu time as an everyday term?
Yeah, maybe it's a military thing; everyone I know says GMT (Greenwich Mean Time).
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2004 - British Virgin Islands - 1 Dollar, Dolphin
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces73621.html
Rarity index = 88
2004 - Cook Islands - 1 Dollar, Mahatma Gandhi
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces44806.html
Rarity index = 88
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2003 is now! Actually I just got home from my friends house, and it's 2002 in a few hours unless somebody makes a 2003 post...
Any more changes to rules you want to see before we reach 2000 or 1999? See the post I made earlier. Once I make the new thread, I want it to be just coins, not complaints and arguments
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2003 - British Virgin Islands - 1 Dollar, John F. Kennedy
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces96467.html
Rarity index = 94
2003 - South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands - 2 Pounds, Prince William
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces73631.html
Rarity index = 92
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2002 - British Virgin Island - 1 Dollar, Princess Diana
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces109623.html
Rarity index = 95
2002 - Nicaragua - 10 Cordobas, Bordeando las Isletas
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces63002.html
Rarity index = 88
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North Korea Juche 91 (2002) uncirculated set (10, 50 Chon, 1 Won):
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces15885.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces15884.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces15883.html
I have the 1 and 5 Chon that came in the same set too, but those are dated Juche 98 (2008), so I can't post them here. These coins are worth so little that it's worth more to the NK government, selling them to numismatists abroad than they're worth circulating back home.
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2001
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2001 -- Tajikistan, 5 dirham:
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NEW THREAD HERE
much less restrictive rules. A few things like "continues another 24 hours if nobody posts" I figure I'll add that in 200 years or so, until then in the remote chance we go without a post, I'll just post a penny or something from my collection and move on to the next year.
If you're not happy with what I posted, lets discuss it here in this thread for a few days, so the new one doesn't get all clogged up like this one did
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