Cheaper patterns (1500-1918)

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I am searching for cheaper patterns from 1500-1918, that I may one day sooner or later buy.

1 If the pattern is a "normal" looking coin, for example a silver pattern of a gold ducat (these aren't so rare) under 100€.

2 If the pattern is interesting, under 300€.

3 If the pattern is from Finland Or Has a mintage of under 20 or under 20 surviving pieces, and is quite interesting, I could pay 900€ for it.


(Also other interesting coins with a low mintage are accepted)

I already have a few ideas:


- A 1/2, 1 or 2 Dukat pattern coin from a German state, for example https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces149837.html or a similar coin. 1
- This tin 5 Francs pattern, or another 1848 pattern: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces93106.html 2
Finland TS1, TS2 are interesting, but worth extremely much and extremely rare. Maybe one day!
Status changed to Solved (Monninen1, 12-Oct-2018, 23:19)
Status changed to Opened (Monninen1, 19-Oct-2018, 22:52)
I have a few ideas what I could buy now (I have about 80€)

Bolivia KM#Pn56, a brass pattern 50 Centavos.
Or patterns from the German states...
But any ideas are accepted
Take a look at France, they produced an ungodly amount of patterns, a lot of which can be had for reasonable prices.
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Muenzenhamster is a healthy part of our community and should not be censored
Quote: "Roublizer"​Take a look at France, they produced an ungodly amount of patterns, a lot of which can be had for reasonable prices.
​In the mid and late 20th century a lot of French essais were produced (mintages in the thousands) for sale to collectors, and now they are selling relatively cheaply (around 40-50€).

But the French essais produced before 1918 are not so available and not so cheap.
Quote: "CassTaylor"
Quote: "Roublizer"​Take a look at France, they produced an ungodly amount of patterns, a lot of which can be had for reasonable prices.
​​In the mid and late 20th century a lot of French essais were produced (mintages in the thousands) for sale to collectors, and now they are selling relatively cheaply (around 40-50€).

​But the French essais produced before 1918 are not so available and not so cheap.



Maybe living in the US where even the cheapest patterns cost $1000+ skew my perception, but a lot of patterns that came after the revolution in 1848 can be had for $80-$300​ which I think are pretty cheap.

https://www.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?Nty=1&Ntk=SI_Titles-Desc&Ns=Time%7C1%7C%7CLot+No%7C0&N=0+790+231&Ntt=france+essai+1848&ic4=SortBy-071515

You probably have to sign in to see the prices, but I think these fit pretty well into OP's criteria.

Edit: here's some more.

https://www.ma-shops.com/shops/search.php?searchstr=france+essai+1848&catid=6&lang=en&sortby=preis_exclship&ajax=roh
Buying gold and electrum coins 700bc-1950ad
Muenzenhamster is a healthy part of our community and should not be censored
Oh, if that's what you meant then you have a point, probably depends on perception of that word "cheap":
https://www.cgb.fr/boutique_selection,mo_mod,MTgtMDMtMjAxNA==.html

I was thinking more of the late 19th century and early 20th century pre-strikes, essais, and piéforts, of common coins, some of which are further out of reach than those 1848 essais in the 80-150 euro range: https://www.cgb.fr/essai-de-5-centimes-daniel-dupuis-1897-f-119-3-sup,v37_1296,a.html

Here's an particularly interesting essai I would recommend to OP:
https://www.cgb.fr/essai-de-5-centimes-rude-en-aluminium-1909-paris-gem-15-8-sup55,fmd_313117,a.html
These 5 Francs 1848 patterns are usually sold for something between 70 and 160€

The essai 10 and 20 centimes 1859 of Belgium are a lot cheaper. They are often sold for 100€ but currently someone is selling a really bad condition one on ebay for 30€.
Quote: "Monninen1"​Bolivia KM#Pn56, a brass pattern 50 Centavos.
​This coin was bought an hour before I would've purchased it. I will probably buy a Ottoman gold coin this time, and a French essai next time.
There are some german patterns on sale today but I cant say how high the auctions will get:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/AA5243-Preussen-Wilhelm-II-1888-1918-2-Mark-1913-Probe-von-Goetz/392147710528?hash=item5b4dd33240:g:xNYAAOSwgYlbmSi4
https://www.ebay.de/itm/AA5242-Preussen-Wilhelm-II-1888-1918-20-Mark-1913-Probe-von-Goetz/392148817079?hash=item5b4de414b7:g:LbgAAOSw9E5bxUyQ
https://www.ebay.de/itm/AA5244-Preussen-Wilhelm-II-1888-1918-3-Mark-1913-Probe-von-Goetz/372471629683?hash=item56b90a0773:g:CtsAAOSwtLtbxUuB
https://www.ebay.de/itm/AA5241-Preussen-Wilhelm-II-1888-1918-10-Mark-1913-Probe-von-Goetz/392148815853?hash=item5b4de40fed:g:-UgAAOSw18JbxUwV

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