mickfinn
Joined: 31-Oct-2016
Posts: 85
Posted: 23-Oct-2018, 00:13
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Posted: 23-Oct-2018, 00:13
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A few months ago I won this coin in an Ebay auction for 25 bucks. I didn't research the book value of the coin to realize it should be for more than that.
I'm guessing it is fake. Let me know what you guys think.
Mr. Midnight
Joined: 10-Mar-2017
Posts: 3441
Posted: 23-Oct-2018, 01:58
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Posted: 23-Oct-2018, 01:58
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the world of fake/reproduction coins boggles the mind.
without really knowing I am going to say yes it is a reproduction, because there are so many, and the price, as you observe, is simply unbelievable.
looking a the Numista example
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces17952.html
and the NGC example
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/russian-caucasia-armavir-5-roubles-km-3-1918-cuid-1092546-duid-1529314
the part i dont like most is the neck feathers
others will call out other problems or not.
Jamais l'or n'a perdu la plus petite occasion de se montrer stupide. -Balzac
Tovarich
Joined: 9-Aug-2015
Posts: 824
Posted: 23-Oct-2018, 02:03
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Posted: 23-Oct-2018, 02:03
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It's a much better fake than the picture Numista shows of this coin. I hadn't looked at the one on here before, but it's actually quite embarrassing that someone allowed that now that I see it and Numista should have that one removed.
That said, it's also quite fake. The most blatantly obvious things that jump out to me are the size of the denticles and the space between them and the rim and the thickness of the rim . Also, the left side of the b in banka on the right of the obverse should more or less make a line to the end of the feathers if the size of the coat of arms was correct. An legitimate one that condition would cost you a few hundred at least. The 5 and 1 are the more faked of the 3, the 3 Rouble is the most likely to be found legitimately.
mickfinn
Joined: 31-Oct-2016
Posts: 85
Posted: 23-Oct-2018, 02:13
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Posted: 23-Oct-2018, 02:13
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Quote: "Tovarich"It's a much better fake than the picture Numista shows of this coin. I hadn't looked at the one on here before, but it's actually quite embarrassing that someone allowed that now that I see it and Numista should have that one removed.
That said, it's also quite fake. The most blatantly obvious things that jump out to me are the size of the denticles and the space between them and the edge and the thickness of the edge. Also, the left side of the b in banka on the right of the obverse should more or less make a line to the end of the feathers if the size of the coat of arms was correct. An legitimate one that condition would cost you a few hundred at least. The 5 and 1 are the more faked of the 3, the 3 Rouble is the most likely to be found legitimately.
Thank you I figured. This same is seller is currently selling a lovely looking Siberia 1768 10 Kopeks for 33 USK. That also seems suspicious, which reminded me of this purchase.
Can I post the current sale or does that violate forum rules?
Mr. Midnight
Joined: 10-Mar-2017
Posts: 3441
Posted: 23-Oct-2018, 02:18
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Posted: 23-Oct-2018, 02:18
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Quote: "Tovarich"It's a much better fake than the picture Numista shows of this coin. I hadn't looked at the one on here before, but it's actually quite embarrassing that someone allowed that
it is not the only one on here.
Jamais l'or n'a perdu la plus petite occasion de se montrer stupide. -Balzac
Arusak
Joined: 18-Mar-2017
Posts: 672
Posted: 23-Oct-2018, 05:38
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Posted: 23-Oct-2018, 05:38
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Quote: "mickfinn"
Quote: "Tovarich"It's a much better fake than the picture Numista shows of this coin. I hadn't looked at the one on here before, but it's actually quite embarrassing that someone allowed that now that I see it and Numista should have that one removed.
That said, it's also quite fake. The most blatantly obvious things that jump out to me are the size of the denticles and the space between them and the edge and the thickness of the edge. Also, the left side of the b in banka on the right of the obverse should more or less make a line to the end of the feathers if the size of the coat of arms was correct. An legitimate one that condition would cost you a few hundred at least. The 5 and 1 are the more faked of the 3, the 3 Rouble is the most likely to be found legitimately.
Thank you I figured. This same is seller is currently selling a lovely looking Siberia 1768 10 Kopeks for 33 USK. That also seems suspicious, which reminded me of this purchase.
Can I post the current sale or does that violate forum rules?
I found it on ebay, every single item that seller has for sale is fake.
Grinya
Joined: 8-May-2017
Posts: 1530
Posted: 23-Oct-2018, 11:08
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Posted: 23-Oct-2018, 11:08
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Yes, this is a fake. As well as the one on the photo on Numista Catalogue
Medieval sets for swap:
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic140941.html
My personal list of scammers from Numista: erniemix, yvain, CassTaylor
Ecapoe
Joined: 7-Dec-2013
Posts: 2643
Posted: 25-Oct-2018, 13:53
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Posted: 25-Oct-2018, 13:53
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Hello,
Did someone make a request to remove the pics from our Numista sheet ?
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