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1700 - Electorate of Brunswick-Luneburg-Calenberg-Hannover, 4 mariengroschen:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces39912.html
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Russia, Pyotr I, 1 Kopek 1700, Old mint (Moscow), KG# 1635
Year is written by letters -
=1700. The first year when the date started to be written on coins using the Gregorian calendar. Before it was old-slavic calendar started from creation of the world (or the coins were undated).
This type of coin is not yet in Numista catalogue.
Available for swap:)
Medieval sets for swap:
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic140941.html
My personal list of scammers from Numista: erniemix, yvain, CassTaylor
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Where is phfoticus :O
Can't have this thread stopping at 1698 :'(
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Kingdom of Valenica - Dinero - Carlos II
1667-1699
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces109141.html
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Quote: "Salaction"Where is phfoticus :O
Can't have this thread stopping at 1698 :'(
I didn't realize we were ready for 1698, since the thread title wasn't updated --
1698 -- Kingdom of England, 1 shilling:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces12973.html
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1698 -- Kingdom of England, ½ Penny - William III
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces62074.html
with the unusual position of the date behind Britannia, instead of below.
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Quote: "phfoticus"
Quote: "Salaction"Where is phfoticus :O
Can't have this thread stopping at 1698 :'(
I didn't realize we were ready for 1698, since the thread title wasn't updated --
1698 -- Kingdom of England, 1 shilling:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces12973.html
One of the great recoinage coins.
In 1696 the King, William III commissioned the master of the Royal Mint, one Sir Isaac Newton (The genius paragon) to make a huge recoinage to replace the large number of clipped, counterfeit and obselete coins in circulation.
Milled coins had been in use since 1662, and these had proper rims to stop clipping (Shaving bits of silver off coins), yet most coins in circulation were pre 1662 (Some were from the time of Elizabeth and Henry VIII) and were badly clipped. Between 1696 and 1701, some 10 million new coins were minted from pennies to crowns and they were circulated throughout the Kingdom, along with branch mints being set up briefly. The well made coins were of a universal standard and purity that lasted until the great recoinage of 1816.
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Quote: "Grinya"Russia, Pyotr I, 1 Kopek 1700, Old mint (Moscow), KG# 1635
Year is written by letters - =1700. The first year when the date started to be written on coins using the Gregorian calendar. Before it was old-slavic calendar started from creation of the world (or the coins were undated).
This type of coin is not yet in Numista catalogue.
Available for swap:)
Love it, all the Russian empire coins to this time were these crudely made cobs and mostly dengas (½ kopeks) and Kopeks. Apart from some countermarked silver thalers of other states from the time of Alexei Romanov (1650s).
Of course in 1701, Peter started a great recoinage with proper round coins ranging from Polushkas ¼kopecks to Silver roubles and gold coins. This coin is super historic, being one of the last medieval style ones of Russia.
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William II - Kingdom of Scotland - 5 Shillings - 1697
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces88198.html
My coin has been used as jewellery at some point. It made it much more affordable and probably explains why it survived the 1707-9 recoinage. It also makes the coin immensely more interesting given the political events of the period. It would have been worn with William's face the right way up, did it serve as an anti-Jacobite token etc. ?
There is a great quote by someone who's name I have forgotten. It goes something like: "the great collector's specimen is often the inferior historical document." I think this fits the description.
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Sorry I haven't been too active here recently; the only coins I had fro 1700-1697 were halfpennies and sixpences not really worth posting.
Anyway, here's another early milled English crown, of William III, the Dutch king of England (although Parliament didn't really care as long as he was Protestant and respected its authority).
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William II - Kingdom of Scotland - 1695 Bawbee (6d) & Bodle (2d)
These are some of the last Scottish copper coins to be minted. Anne would only issue a small silver coinage during a limited span of her pre-union reign.
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1695 -- Electorate af Saxony-Albertine, 1/12 thaler:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces83662.html
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An English farthing from 1694 of William and Mary, one of my first coins from way back when i first started collecting.
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Quote: "CassTaylor"An English farthing from 1694 of William and Mary, one of my first coins from way back when i first started collecting.
William & Mary - Kingdom of England - 1694 Halfpenny
Coincidentally, it is one of my very first coins and definitely the first coin I owned from before the 19th century.
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1693 -- Archbishopric-Electorate of Mainz, 12 kreuzer:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces112291.html
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Quote: "cmaclean"
Quote: "CassTaylor"An English farthing from 1694 of William and Mary, one of my first coins from way back when i first started collecting.
Coincidentally, it is one of my very first coins and definitely the first coin I owned from before the 19th century.
I think most collectors who started in the UK share this experience; early milled copper coinage can be found in £1 bins with a little luck at coin shops and fairs! 1694 happens to also be the year the Bank of England was established.
Anyway, over the Irish Sea for 1693:
This is a Farthing from WIliam and Mary's dual reign- I remember 12 year old me getting all excited at the date beginning with "16".
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Quote: "CassTaylor"
I think most collectors who started in the UK share this experience; early milled copper coinage can be found in £1 bins with a little luck at coin shops and fairs! 1694 happens to also be the year the Bank of England was established.
This is a Farthing from WIliam and Mary's dual reign- I remember 12 year old me getting all excited at the date beginning with "16".
12 year old me took it from my dad's childhood coin collection. It was the oldest coin he had by far.
Austria - 1693 15 Kreuzer - Leopold I
This coin gives us a pretty good idea of what the Targaryen's would have looked like in real life.
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Carlos II. 1691.
1 real de Sevilla con anagrama de la Virgen Maria.
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I'm going on vacation for a week, so I'm posting both my 1690 and 1689 today, and someone else will have to keep the title updated.
12 Pence, Ireland Gun Money, James II
September 1689, and May 1690
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces25976.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces55269.html
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1690 -- Kingdom of Hungary (Royal Hungary), 15 krajczar:
Seems to be KM#191 -- not in Numista catalog
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1689 -- Duchy of Brunswick-Luneburg-Calenberg, 2 mariengroschen:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces132576.html
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My only James II/ Gunmoney coin yet. I surely will buy an upgrade one day...
Ireland - Sixpence June 1689 - King James II
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces17868.html
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An ex-mount 1689 2nd shield William and Mary joint reign halfcrown! This was also the year the English Bill of Rights was created.
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An ex-mount 1689 2nd shield William and Mary joint reign halfcrown! This was also the year the English Bill of Rights was created.
The Glorious Revolution - yes a momentous date.
From this point on, the King or Monarch was a constitutional figurehead only can could rule by Divine right like the Stuart monarchs had, the Parliament had the right to remove an unsuitable ruler and the people had more rights. It made Great Britain the most liberal and free society on earth.
But in reality it was not really free, only 5% of the population could vote (Full male suffrage only came in 1873), 30% were literate, women and Blacks were property, the landless classes were still pretty much at the mercy of the rich and many crimes resulted in the death penalty. Catholics were essentially banned until 1829.
The first Prime Minister only arrived in 1721 and the Bill of Rights was more to stop Catholics like James II becoming rulers and also to limit William who was seen as a troublesome Dutchman. However business and commerce thrived and science was succeeding over religion and after 1695 famine became a thing of the past in England (Scotland and Ireland suffered periodically until the 1840s).
As we go back we head into the absolute rule of the Stuarts (First off with James II/VII of Scotland) whose Roman Catholicism made him very unpopular. Things were okay under Charles II, but then we have the train wreck of the Commonwealth and Charles I.
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PLEASE NOTE: THESE ARE
NOT MINE!!!!
It is a set for sale on Trade me and considering the price it is up to, I will never afford it. I have cropped and reduced photos to avoid copyright issues.
Link -
https://www.trademe.co.nz/antiques-collectables/coins/united-kingdom/listing-2166233976.htm?rsqid=93ea7c49f1a8431e89bd0c8f4ba42223-002
WILL EXPIRE ON JUNE 4TH NZ TIME WHICH MAY BE JUNE 3RD IN AMERICA/UK
It is a 1687 Maundy set of Great Britain, consisting of 4 small silver coins from 1d to 4d.
It's a nice and very rare set - James was only King for 3 years and unpopular as he was CATHOLIC in a time of rabid anti catholicism in the UK (Puritians and other lunatics running the asylum)
Maundy was a ceremony which happened on easter Monday in which a monarch gave so many elderly paupers a velevt bag containing these coins. The number of paupers was related to the monarchs age and also how much they got. So in 1687, James was 54 so he gave 54 paupers 54 pence each and this would have probably been 5 complete sets and four pence made up in any combination of the coins (A 4d, or 3d +1d, 2x 2d, 4x 1d, 2x 1d and a 2d). Needless to say these coins are hard to find now.
The ceremony goes back to the Medieval times, but coins before 1660 are hard to find as these low values were used as circulation pieces at the time (Even in 1687, Groats (4d) and 2d silver coins were still used along the 3d). It is carried on today and no doubt popular given the Queen is 93 and the recipients got 93 pence this year as the Easter was later than the Queens birthday.
They are also the only coins still struck in Sterling silver (Although they were half between 1920 and 1946, in 1947 they went back to Sterling rather than Cupronickel).
Again these are NOT my coins and I apologise. I was planning on buying them, but can't afford it.
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1688 -- Duchy of Brunswick-Luneburg-Calenberg, 6 mariengroschen:
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I actually think the Dutch and Venetian Republics at the time could have given England/Britain a run for its money for the title of "most liberal/free" state in the world; both, along with England have been described by Enlightenment writers such as Voltaire as being a paragon of freedom of belief and expression (in comparison to France under the absolutist Bourbons, and other Ancien Regime states in pre-Revolutionary Europe).
Speaking of absolutism and Catholics, though.....
A James II Crown from 1687- as Tane pointed out above James II types are generally scarce because he was only king for three years.
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1686 -- Electorate of Saxony-Albertine, 1/24 thaler:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces156954.html
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My other James II coin, a 1686 Irish halfpenny. Does anyone know if the rim problem on the upper left of the obverse is an error or just PMD?
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1685 -- Margraviate of Brandenburg-Prussia, 1/12 thaler:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces78668.html
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Al ai
Al Carlos II. España.
Valencia.
Dieciocheno 1684.
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We are back in the era of the Habsburg Jaw I see! This is another coin from the Habsburgs' possessions in Central Europe; Silesia to be precise.
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1683 -- Duchy of Wurttemberg-Oels, 1 kreuzer:
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This year Wien was besieged by turkish invaders and got saved by this polish King and his winged hussars.
Polish-Lithuarian Commonwealth - 6 Groszy 1683 - King Jan III Sobieski
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces63594.html
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1683 - Dutch Republic - Annexation of Leiden harbour
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces114689.html
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Brandenburg-Prussia - 6 Groschen 1682 - Kurfürst Friedrich Wilhelm ("der große Kurfürst)
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces42543.html
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1680 -- City of Magdeburg, 1/24 thaler:
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The same 1679 groat phfoticus posted already
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Quote: "CassTaylor"
The same 1679 groat phfoticus posted already
Still a nice coin and it is 340 years old.
1679 was the year of the Titus Oates plot in England in which a group of Catholics tried to convert the King and make the country Catholic again, the result was a rash of hyper Protestant overreaction and more persecution against the "Papists"
It was also the year in which several French Nobles in Versailles were arrested for a fiendish plot that tried to poison Louis XIV and included his jilted ex lover Madame de Montespan.
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And here's the same Charles II Scottish bawbee!
IIRC he converted to Catholicism on his deathbed; and speaking of Versailles, throughout the late Stuart era the anti-Catholic sentiment in England was mainly fuelled by fears that Louis XIV would invade in support of James II and return England to Catholicism.
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Halfcrown, 4th bust. TRICESIMO edge.
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France - Token 1677 - Queen Marie Therese (wife of Louis XIV)
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces78908.html
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Denmark - Medal - Victory over the Swedish naval fleet in the Battle of Køge Bay.
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Charles II - Kingdom of Scotland - 1677 2d Turner
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces43470.html
'Turner' is a Scots corruption of the French term 'Tournois'. It was first used to refer to a copper coin struck by James VI in 1597, which was heavily based on the French Double Tournois.
Interesting to see a bunch of bawbees in the previous posts. They are by far the most commonly encountered Scottish coins.
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I have the same token as Alfonz
1677 - France - Kingdom - Maria Theresa
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces78908.html
Another from France
1677 - France - Kingdom - Flanders
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces76715.html
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Also I have, but is undated ...
Netherlands Jeton - struck in 1677 to celebrate the peace
negotiations preparing the treaties of Nijmegen.
Lettering: RESPONDENT INTIMA QVANTO [they indicate exactly how much]
// QVIESCAM ET QVIESCERE FACIAM [I will rest and let rest]
Obverse: A balance with coins in one tray and a weight in the other.
On left a test weight cabinet, and on right a small furnace for testing metals.
Reverse: A dove of Peace carrying a branch in its beak, flying over a landscape
of water and mountains, with clouds above.
References: Dugniolle no. 4384, orders 1357, Wellenheim 14671,
Knyph 7181, Neumann 31809
Material: Copper
Diameter: 27.0 mm
Another example:
https://www.cgbfr.com/cour-des-monnaies-de-paris-jeton-de-maitre-de-la-monnaie-en-pologne--tb-,fjt_425328,a.html
I have not yet created a page on here for it.
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1676 Crown
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1675 -- Silesia / Duchy of Liegnitz-Brieg, 3 kreuzer:
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Sorry I didn't get the thread updated last night, I was out camping with no internet. If we don't get a 1674 in the next few hours we'll delay everything by 1 day
But sometimes being without internet is the best! And Raven loves the water
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1674 - France - Louis XIV
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces80895.html
1674 - France - Louis XIV
[NEC PONDVS OBSTITIT / LAPIDES 52 PED IN ALTVM SVBLATI 1674]
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An ugly cleaned and worn 1673 crown; this was actually my first ever early milled (pre-1816) crown. Had the chance to upgrade it recently but decided to keep this one out of sentimental value, and spent the money on my 1898 rijksdaalder instead!
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Only going to be mine for a short while longer but I thought I'd share it anyway!
A Swedish 4 öre from the reign of Karl XI.
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1671 -- Margraviate of Brandenburg-Prussia, 1/24 thaler:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces133015.html
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Jetón de Bruxelas 1671 de Carlos II España (1665 a 1700).
5,8 gr. cobre y 27 mm. (taller Bruxelas= cabeza ángel).
. CAROL. II D. G. HISP. ET INDIAR. REX -- Busto descubierto a derecha con Toisón.
--Corona real atravesada por espada - cetro.
. 16 (cabeza ángel) 71 TVTORE (flor) DEO (flor). (Confianza de Carlos II en la Protección Divina).
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Charles II - Kingdom of Scotland - 1671 1 Merk [12 shillings 4 pence]
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces17997.html
I suppose the most interesting thing about this coin is that the punches for its dies were made by Thomas Simon of Petition Crown fame.
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Quote: "alfonz"England - 1 Farthing 1672 - King Charles II
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces12907.html
The first official year of copper coins in Great Britain, Farthings and Halfpence were issued to alleviate a shortage of these tiny silver coins. There had been tokens for both since the 1650s and before that the famous Harrington tin farthings of the 1615 - 1640 period.
It was the first use of Britannia on a coin since the 4th century AD.
I love coins
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Quote: "Moneytane"Quote
The first official year of copper coins in Great Britain, Farthings and Halfpence were issued to alleviate a shortage of these tiny silver coins. There had been tokens for both since the 1650s and before that the famous Harrington tin farthings of the 1615 - 1640 period.
It was the first use of Britannia on a coin since the 4th century AD.
They were the earliest English copper coins. James III of Scotland experimented with a series of copper farthings and threepenny pieces. Here is one of the threepenny pieces:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces95247.html
The dates of some of these copper coins are not known, but one of the copper farthings can definitely be traced back to c.1465-6. This makes it one of the first pure copper coins to be struck in western Europe since the fall of the Roman empire.
James VI issued a series of copper Scottish 2 pence and 1 pence coins in the latter years of his reign.
1597:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces112395.html
1614:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces76082.html
1623:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces88040.html
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1669 - Earldom of Mansfeld-Eisleben, 1/3 thaler:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces47244.html
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Quote: "cmaclean"
Quote: "Moneytane"
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The first official year of copper coins in Great Britain, Farthings and Halfpence were issued to alleviate a shortage of these tiny silver coins. There had been tokens for both since the 1650s and before that the famous Harrington tin farthings of the 1615 - 1640 period.
It was the first use of Britannia on a coin since the 4th century AD.
They were the earliest English copper coins. James III of Scotland experimented with a series of copper farthings and threepenny pieces. Here is one of the threepenny pieces: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces95247.html
The dates of some of these copper coins are not known, but one of the copper farthings can definitely be traced back to c.1465-6. This makes it one of the first pure copper coins to be struck in western Europe since the fall of the Roman empire.
James VI issued a series of copper Scottish 2 pence and 1 pence coins in the latter years of his reign.
1597: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces112395.html
1614: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces76082.html
1623: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces88040.html
Yes, but the act of Union was not until 1707 and even though when James became king of England in 1603 and it was known as Great Britain - it was not formalised until 1707. The copper coins were issued in 1672 when it was still formally coinage for the Kingdom of England and possibly Wales.
The Scots had their own coins right up to 1707, the unfortunate Darien scheme was part of the reason anschluss with England was necessary.
I agree with your views on Scottish copper, experiments in the 15th century and definitely copper bawbees by the 1530s in the reign of James V (Just like in France, where copper coins started appearing around the same time).
I love coins
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I'm camping down in Florida, thought I would have regular internet but I don't, someone else will have to keep the thread updated for a few days
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1666 -- County of Loano, 1 luigino:
(This doesn't seem to be in the Numista catalog)
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Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth - 6 Groszy 1666 - King John II Casimir Vasa
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces168272.html#
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