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Thaler or not?

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AYMAN SHALABI
Joined: 9-Jun-2019
Posts: 5
Dear friends
Please I need to identify this coin is it a real thaler or not? The coin its uncleaned .
Please help
Idolenz
Joined: 13-Jul-2013
Posts: 2101
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces21962.html

can't say anything about authenticity
              
CassTaylor
Joined: 30-May-2014
Posts: 8257
The obverse looks almost passable but the reverse condemns it as a fake for me. Would not spend my money on.
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AYMAN SHALABI
Joined: 9-Jun-2019
Posts: 5
Quote: "CassTaylor"​The obverse looks almost passable but the reverse condemns it as a fake for me. Would not spend my money on.
​What causes the face to look fake
AYMAN SHALABI
Joined: 9-Jun-2019
Posts: 5
Quote: "Idolenz"https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces21962.html

​can't say anything about authenticity
​ i relly cant contact with him and i need expert to help me ...about this thaler
bjherbison
Joined: 28-Jul-2017
Posts: 24
When I compare your images with other images of that type there are too many small things that are off in your images. Die variations exist, but generally not with that many differences for a Thaler.
AYMAN SHALABI
Joined: 9-Jun-2019
Posts: 5
Quote: "bjherbison"​When I compare your images with other images of that type there are too many small things that are off in your images. Die variations exist, but generally not with that many differences for a Thaler.

Is the version compared to the same date and character and do you have pictures of his own It is known that the sack in the sixth and seventeenth century were changing the templates and not fixed can change the same version and date
kommodore
Joined: 5-Nov-2009
Posts: 2830
I think it's real

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