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ZacUK Numista team
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  • 24 hours per year, starting at UTC/GMT/Zulu midnight (Google "Zulu time" if you're unsure what the current time is).
  • Include a link to the Numista catalog for the coin(s) you're showing, so it's easy for people to see more info.
---- If it's not in the catalog, please create a new catalog entry if possible
  • Picture must be of your coin, currently in your collection. Not what you just ordered on eBay, or a coin you sold last year, or the photo from the Numista catalog, etc.
  • Non-Gregorian dates count for the Gregorian year they MOST overlap.
---- Non-dated coins made only one year are good for that year. Coins made for more that 1 year don't count.
My collections >
http://mycoinssite.webs.com/apps/photos/album?albumid=13560800
also 13750057 also 15924495 also 15995337
http://mycoinssite.webs.com/apps/photos/album?albumid=16060326
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74
Thank you for continuing this the previous thread. At this time I do not
have any to contribute. Starting in 1499 I will . While I do have a few coins
that would fit with this thread they are not a high quality and worth
photoing. @phfoticus has shared dozens of nice quality coins. I hope they
continue to do so.
phfoticus
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1550 -- Kingdom of France, 1 douzain aux croissants:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces8555.html
phfoticus
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1549 -- Grand Duchy of Lithunia, 1/2 groat:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces35047.html
phfoticus
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1548 -- Grand Duchy of Lithuania, 1/2 groat:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces35047.html
Moneytane
Joined: 28-Jan-2014
Posts: 583
Without Lithuanian half groats, Hungarian denars and French thingees, we would have nothing to show. The number of dated coins in this era is thinning out.
I love coins, both old and precious and also change coins. If its round and shiny, it will garner my interest. I also collect stamps and have an abiding interest in History, Archaeology,  and Social Issues.  I also worship the musical god Prince.
arpad
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Posts: 74
Quote: Moneytane​Without Lithuanian half groats, Hungarian denars and French thingees, we would have nothing to show. The number of dated coins in this era is thinning out.
The number of dated coins from 1500-1550 is quite extensive. German and Austrian coins to
name a couple. Just depends on your budget. Northern and Southern Netherlands have several
to offer. Copper coins from this time frame also become more frequent with dates. I believe the
English started dating coins 1548, but they can be budget busters. The Germans had a few issuing
authorities minting Goldguldens. There again budget busters.  One could actually post several
coins for each date going back to 1500. Just depends on your budget and opportunities to acquire
them. German thalers are also available, but are very pricey, $150 and rising quickly. The specimens
that  @phfoticus is sharing with us are in remarkable condition. I look forward to the next posts.
phfoticus
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Quote: "Moneytane"​Without Lithuanian half groats, Hungarian denars and French thingees, we would have nothing to show. The number of dated coins in this era is thinning out.
​Actually, I don't have any more "French thingies" for this thread. Mostly what I have (back to 1501) are:

- Lithuanian halfgroats
- Polish coins (small)
- Hungarian denars
- Duchy of Prussia groschen
- Coins from various German city states
Salaction
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Completely agree with you Arpad. This is the thread I am always checking first each day, because of the awesome coins from Phfoticus :D
phfoticus
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1547 -- Duchy of Prussia, 1 groschen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces27572.html
phfoticus
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1546 -- Kingdom of Hungary, 1 denar:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces10702.html
phfoticus
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1545 -- Duchy of Prussia, 1 groschen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces27572.html
phfoticus
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1544 -- Kingdom of Hungary, 1 denar:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces10702.html
arpad
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@phfoticus   The Hungarian Denars are really nice!!  Its like you
have a time machine and get them fresh from the minter.
phfoticus
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I've noticed that denars from this era are often in good shape, compared to other coins or compared to denars from later on.
arpad
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My experience with the post 1580 denars are that there was very
little quality control or pride in producing a pleasing product. The last
few pieces that you have posted , Hungarian and others are really nice.
phfoticus
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1543 -- Free Imperial City of Besancon, 1 carolus:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces124345.html
phfoticus
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1542 -- Duchy of Prussia, 1 groschen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces27572.html
Moneytane
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Posts: 583
Nice coin, very well struck and "Round" for the era. Back then, few would have suspected Prussia would become the German Empire in 330 years and hold the world to ransom in the early 20th century.

I think it is great too this thread has been going non stop since 2018 coins back in July 2018 and here we are in the age of the Reformation, Charles V, Henry VIII, James V, Christian III, Gustavus Vasa, and Francois I. The early Renaissance.

Out of interest, 1542 was the year Henry VIII's (England) flagship the Mary Rose sank and sat forgotten until 1982 when it was risen and we saw relics of this long distant era.

Congratulations and thanks to everyone who has posted a coin or coins here. I have enjoyed it immensely so far.
I love coins, both old and precious and also change coins. If its round and shiny, it will garner my interest. I also collect stamps and have an abiding interest in History, Archaeology,  and Social Issues.  I also worship the musical god Prince.
Moneytane
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Interesting how now virtually all coins shown will be Europe, but then again apart from Arab states and the Ottoman empire, no other polity was dating their coins by year.

SUMMARY OF DATES ON COINS USAGE IN WORLD.

In 1542 - Americas - Only Mexico city mint in operation and most Spanish coins not dated until later 16th century

Asia - Lots of states and Japanese and Chinese empires, they had dated coins, but to the nearest emperor only (China, Jialing emperor - Shizong) but his coins are only datable to his whole reign (1521 - 1567). Japan, coins before 1600 are almost impossible to find. Other statelets -some were lumps of metal.

India - Mughal emperors, possible to find Mohurs dated in AH 900s - rare though

Persia and rest of Middle East - Dated coins are possible, but most would be silver and gold, most copper worn away or forgotten.

Ottoman empire - Never seen too many of their coins before the 1600s, but they must exist - it was at its peak under Suleiman the magnificient (1520 - 1566) and there must have been many coins issued.

Australia - run by Aborigines, who had no idea what money was - trading and gift giving.

Pacific - Ditto, various tribes people (Possibly barter currency like stone rings and fish. bracelets, tools etc)

Africa - some Islamic states may have had coins and empires like Ghana, Songhay etc may have had gold and slave exchanges, but nothing resembling coins except possibly copper manillas were in use (These were unmarked let alone undated). Some Portuguese coins may have been in use in Angola, Mozambique and the brief Christian Kongo kingdom.

Eastern Europe and Russia, Dated coins in wide use in Poland, Lithuania and Baltic states, Russian coins restricted to near worthless wire money dengas and kopecks.

Southern Europe - coin usage - but few dated before 1550s. Generally much poorer, illiterate and more feudal than Northern and Western Europe.

That really leaves North and Western Europe and hence why all the coins dated are from there. These states were the richest, most literate, free and likely to use dated coins than any other. However when we got back another 100 years, that will change as we enter the medieval era and the only renaissance taking place was in some parts of Italian city states.

Hence my summary on coin and dated coin use in 1542.
I love coins, both old and precious and also change coins. If its round and shiny, it will garner my interest. I also collect stamps and have an abiding interest in History, Archaeology,  and Social Issues.  I also worship the musical god Prince.
alfonz
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Duchy of Prussia - 3 Gröscher 1542 - Duke Albrecht
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces81253.html
phfoticus
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1541 -- Kingdom of Hungary, 1 denar:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces10702.html
phfoticus
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1540 -- Kingdom of Poland, 1 groschen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces182457.html
phfoticus
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1539 -- Kingdom of Poland, 1 groschen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces182457.html
phfoticus
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1538 -- Duchy of Prussia, 1 groschen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces27572.html
phfoticus
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1537 -- Kingdom of Hungary, 1 denar:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces10702.html
phfoticus
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1536 -- Kingdom of Hungary, 1 denar:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces10702.html
phfoticus
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1535 -- Kingdom of Poland, 1 groschen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces182407.html
phfoticus
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1534 -- Kingdom of Poland, 1 groscchen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces182457.html
phfoticus
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1533 -- Kingdom of Hungary, 1 denar:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces10702.html
phfoticus
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1532 -- Kingdom of Hungary, 1 denar:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces10702.html
phfoticus
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1531 -- Duchy of Prussia, 1 groschen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces27572.html
phfoticus
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1530 -- Kingdom of Poland, 1 groschen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces182407.html
phfoticus
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1529 -- Kingdom of Hungary, 1 denar:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces10702.html
phfoticus
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1528 -- Kingdom of Hungary, 1 denar:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces10702.html
phfoticus
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1527 -- Free City of Nordlingen, 1/2 batzen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces97160.html
phfoticus
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1526 -- Kingdom of Hungary, 1 denar:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces36845.html
phfoticus
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1525 -- Kingdom of Hungary, 1 denar:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces36845.html
arpad
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Hello everyone, I hope all are well. I am really enjoying the coins that @phfoticus
is sharing with us. I've never seen the 1/2 batzen from Nordlingen that they posted.
I'll say it again, the Hungarian denars are of amazing quality. The ones in my collection
are not nearly as nice. I hope all who read this have a safe and joyful Christmas.
phfoticus
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1524 -- CIty of Schweidnitz, 1/2 groschen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces65413.html
phfoticus
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Grand Duchy of Lithuania -- 1/2 groat, 1523:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces63424.html
phfoticus
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1522 -- Free City of Kempten, 1/2 batzen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces37426.html
Moneytane
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Quote: "phfoticus"​1526 -- Kingdom of Hungary, 1 denar:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces36845.html
​The Year of the battle of Mohacs and Vienna nearly fell to the Turk, Hungary became a client kingdom under the Ottomans and would not be "liberated" by Austria, until the Treaty's of Karlowitz and Passowitz (1699/1718).
I love coins, both old and precious and also change coins. If its round and shiny, it will garner my interest. I also collect stamps and have an abiding interest in History, Archaeology,  and Social Issues.  I also worship the musical god Prince.
phfoticus
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1521 -- Grand Duchy of Lithuania, 1/2 groat:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces63424.html
January First-of-May
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As far as I can tell from the timezones, we skipped yesterday, and today is 1521 day, right?

If so...

1521 -- Bishopric of Salzburg, 1 pfennig:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces73133.html
phfoticus
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1520 -- Kingdom of Hungary, 1 denar:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces36845.html
krezga
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I wanted to put the same coin today :)
mine:
phfoticus
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1519 -- Bishopric of Constance, 1 batzen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces99207.html
phfoticus
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1518 -- Bishopric of Passau, 1 bazen:

phfoticus
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1517 -- Countship of Ottingen, 1 batzen:

phfoticus
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1516 -- Kingdom of Hungary, 1 denar:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces72010.html
phfoticus
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1515 -- Free City of Kempten, 1/2 batzen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces37426.html
krezga
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1515 - Hungary, II. Ulászló, 1 denár
phfoticus
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1514 -- Grand Duchy of Lithuania, 1/2 groat:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces35049.html
phfoticus
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1513 -- Grand Duchy of Lithuania, 1/2 groat:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces35049.html
phfoticus
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1512 -- Grand Duchy of Lithuania, 1/2 groat:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces35049.html
phfoticus
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1511 -- Kingdom of Hungary, 1 denar:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces72010.html
phfoticus
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1510 -- Grand Duchy of Lithuania, 1/2 groat:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces35049.html

(my last coin from Lithuania for this thread)
Ecapoe Numista team
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A pfennig from Salzburg.
https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/pieces72978.html
Quand l'Histoire et la Géographie se croisent sur nos pièces de monnaie ...
Referee for Austria-Habsburg, Austrian Netherlands, Austrian States, Bohemia, Silesia.
Traducteur, demandez en cas de besoin ! Translator, ask if you need !
phfoticus
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1509 -- Kingdom of Hungary, 1 denar:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces72010.html
phfoticus
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1508 -- Kingdom of Poland, 1/2 groschen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces36696.html
phfoticus
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1507 -- Kingdom of Poland, 1/2 groschen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces36696.html
phfoticus
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1506 -- Duchy of Bavaria, 2 kreuzer:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces108976.html
phfoticus
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1505 -- Kingdom of Hungary, 1 denar:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces72010.html

(My last coin from Hungary for this thread -- from this point, as we go back, it starts becomming harder and harder to find AD-dated coins.)
arpad
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If you can get us to the year 1499 I can post some coins.
I have pics for 1504 and 1503 but they are not the quality
photos that you present. 1502, 1501 and 1500 will be a
challenge.
Ecapoe Numista team
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Under Maximilian for Gorizia- Görz
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces83705.html
Quand l'Histoire et la Géographie se croisent sur nos pièces de monnaie ...
Referee for Austria-Habsburg, Austrian Netherlands, Austrian States, Bohemia, Silesia.
Traducteur, demandez en cas de besoin ! Translator, ask if you need !
phfoticus
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I have dated coins back to 1498. After that, I have a few dated coins back to 1470, and one for 1465.

Are we going to start a new thread at 1499, or is the current thread still short enough to continue?
arpad
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I'm not familiar to the protocols of threads on this forum. I will
leave that decision with you. I've really enjoyed the coins that
you have posted thus far. I'm anxious to see your pre 1500 A.D.
pieces. I'll start posting in a few days.
phfoticus
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1504 -- Margraviate of Brandenburg, 1 groschen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces120731.html
Grinya
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Quote: "phfoticus"​I have dated coins back to 1498. After that, I have a few dated coins back to 1470, and one for 1465.

​Are we going to start a new thread at 1499, or is the current thread still short enough to continue?
​I think it is more interesting for a new thread to not to limit one day for one year. Just wait for the photo of dated coin from anybody and pass to the next year only after somebody post photo of the previous.
SWAP LIST (lots of Russia (from wire to 2018) + Tannu Tuva, Goths from Taman, Crimea, Grand principality of Moscow, Siberia, Tatarstan, Golden Horde, Genoa, Bukhara, Khiva etc.)
phfoticus
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1503 -- Margraviate of Brandenburg, 1 groschen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces120731.html
phfoticus
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1502 -- City of Gottingen, 1 kortling:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces136969.html
Moneytane
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Just love watching this thread.

Phfoticus - without you, we would not have a thread and nothing to look at.

Thanks :wiz:
I love coins, both old and precious and also change coins. If its round and shiny, it will garner my interest. I also collect stamps and have an abiding interest in History, Archaeology,  and Social Issues.  I also worship the musical god Prince.
arpad
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@Moneytane You are correct!! @phfoticus has shared many wonderful examples
from their collection. I have a couple of kortlings, but mine are pre 1500 A.D. Has
the forum decided on how we will proceed after 1500 A.D. ? I would still do one year
per 24 hour period to let everyone participate. The decision is upto the forum.
phfoticus
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1501 -- City of Hannover, 1 kreuzgroschen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces168633.html
phfoticus
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1500 -- Archbishopric of Salzburg, 1 batzen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces73202.html
Moneytane
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Ready for the 1400s (8

Time to get my conical hat with gauze and winkelpicker shoes out. And where is my hurdy gurdy (Oh its being borrowed by the Rolling Stones - the in group of the 1400s).


Dated 15th century coin (Not mine!!!) - can't see a date on it either, apparently 1482

Clothes would not be this ludicrous again until 1967!
Commoners,not everyone was royal, a merchant or a Renaissance luminary.

Mods feel free to delete this post if its not appropriate. It was a bit of humour.
I love coins, both old and precious and also change coins. If its round and shiny, it will garner my interest. I also collect stamps and have an abiding interest in History, Archaeology,  and Social Issues.  I also worship the musical god Prince.
arpad
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I see we've arrived at 1500 A.D. Do we start a new thread or continue
with this one? Since @phfoticus brought us to this point in grand fashion,
I think they should decide. My only suggestion would be to keep at one
year per 24 hour period.
phfoticus
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1499 -- County of Holland / Dordrecht -- 1 stuiver:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces57583.html
arpad
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A 4 Groten from the Bremen mint.
The reference number is per Robert Levinson's
book "The Early Dated Coins of Europe 1234-1500"
2nd ed. All photos that I post are created by Todd
@BluCC.
arpad
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This half schilling has a complete date.
I-421b has the last two digits.
I-421c Has a sideways 4 in the date.
phfoticus
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Great pre-1500 coins.

These remind me of the coin photos of the legendary @louie at CCF -- probably made by the same professional coin photographer.
arpad
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This Zingroschen I believe was minted
in Leipzig.
arpad
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This Toison D' Argent was minted in Antwerp.


This goldgulden was minted in Swabia.

I have other coins from this date that I
might post at a latter date.

You can click on the image to make it easier to view.
arpad
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@phfoticus, I am Louie. These are my coins. I just use a
different name here. I'm not sure about the term legendary though.
phfoticus
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Quote: "arpad"
​@phfoticus, I am Louie. These are my coins. I just use a
​different name here. I'm not sure about the term legendary though.
​You're definitely a legend among the denizens of the "How Far Back Can We Go" threads. Those of us still left had a hard time getting the 5th edition thread back to 1461 (where it is now stuck), so the 4th edition could be closed and the 6th edition could start over again at year 2020. We had to rely on three AH-dated Indian Sultanate coins to fill in gaps in @spence's OFEY collection, along with @EddieDiz's undated Hungarian denars.
Giobruno
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What intrigues me in these 1499 coins is that most of them have a completely different 4 written in their dates. Was that normal, there was another way of writing?
Idolenz
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Evolution of the four (LINK)
arpad
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My collection that I have focused on the last 20 years is 100% coins with
dates before 1500 A.D. I've only bought 6 coins since the 2001 Atlanta ANA
that were not related to this collection. While I enjoy collecting these coins
I am deeply disappointed when I am beat at auction. In my collection I have
over 220+ different coins as catalogued by Bob Levinson's book. I even have
the two Spanish coins with the Es Safar date 1204, 1166 per our calendar.
This thread will finish at 1465 unless someone has 1461-1464. Most of these
four dates are either very rare, rarely come up for auction or I have not won
at auction (2 different coins) even with very aggressive bids, sometimes
multiples of high estimate. I have dates that go back to 1374. Around 30
or so coins. Todd at BluCC has imaged my collection except for 20+ that I've
bought since Balt./Whit. 2019 spring. I hope the forum enjoys our Early Dated
treasures, many of which are truly rare. I'll post my 1498 coins tomorrow
after 2:00 pm EST. If any of you are planning on attending the ANA show in
Atlanta at the end of Feb. please let me know so that we might get together
and talk coins.
arpad
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@phfoticus If you don't mind me asking, what is your forum
name on CCF? Just curious. Arpad
phfoticus
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My name is @pepactonius over at CCF.

Note that there is currently a 1463 coin (Levinson III-36) available over at MA shops, for about $5000.00.
arpad
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@phfoticus You've posted several nice pieces of Early Dated coins
on CCF. I saw the 1463 coin on MAshops, and that is well out of my
price range at this time. Maybe someday.
arpad
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This goldgulden was minted in Nordlingen.
Per Levinson's book there maybe goldguldens from
this mint with a full date.


This was minted in Frankfurt.
phfoticus
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1498 -- Duchy of Brabant / Antwerp, toison d'argent:




My OFEY collection ends here -- nothing more from me until 1496.)
arpad
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A zinsgroschen minted at Leipzig, star mintmark.


This one should be labeled I-391c since
it has no mintmark.
arpad
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Those that participate in the "How Far Back Can We Go" contests
should alert members on other forums to get them involved. In my
case, I had a difficult time figuring out how to post pics on the various
forums. For me CCF was difficult because of all of the "cropping"
one needs to do. I'm not sure how the moderators would react if
one of its members posted a plea to the CCF members to help out
on a similar project on another forum.
Grinya
Joined: 8-May-2017
Posts: 514
Crimean Khanate - Akce - Mengli I Giray (Caffa Mint) year 903 (1498).


The coin is not yet on Numista (I will add it soon).
UPD: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces80827.html
It was changed from the similar coin without mint. There are links to the coins from the same time but different mints

By the way, this coin is available for swap for something interesting:)
SWAP LIST (lots of Russia (from wire to 2018) + Tannu Tuva, Goths from Taman, Crimea, Grand principality of Moscow, Siberia, Tatarstan, Golden Horde, Genoa, Bukhara, Khiva etc.)
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74
Hello @Grinya, The coin you posted is interesting. Where on the
coin is the date? What calendar system were they using at that time?
The year 903, what point in time is that marked from? Was it the start
of a country or the first ruler? I am sure that some of these questions
will be answered when you list it on Numista. I've never seen a coin
like that and I'm just curious. I saw on your profile that you live in
Russia. You have an excellent command of the English language.
Grinya
Joined: 8-May-2017
Posts: 514
Hi arpad,

Thank you for your words, interest and questions. I will try to answer, but as the answers may need some long texts I will do it mostly with some links))

1. Where on the coin is the date?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals

2. What calendar system were they using at that time?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar

3. The year 903, what point in time is that marked from?
I'm not sure that I understand your question, sorry. maybe my English is not so good:)

4. Was it the start of a country or the first ruler?
No. The Crimean Khanate existed from 1441 to 1783. I'd recommend to read this article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Khanate
You can see other coins from this issuer here:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/crimea-1.html

5. I am sure that some of these questions will be answered when you list it on Numista
Please see here: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces80827.html
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arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74
Thank you for your quick response. I will read through everything you recommend
when  I eat lunch.   The year 903 (1498) would then be 595  (1498-903= 595) . What is
the significance of the year  595?  Thanks again.  Arpad
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This is a rare Early Dated copper piece. This
Double Mite was minted in Namur.


This goldgulden was minted in Nordlingen. There
are less than 12 collectible.


The catalogue number should be I-362a. This
Ducat was minted in Hamburg.
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This Schilling was minted in Damm. There less
than 7 collectible.


This Toison D'Argent was minted in Antwerp.


This Double Stuiver was minted in Antwerp.

That's all I have for 1497 except maybe a coin
or two not yet imaged.
Grinya
Joined: 8-May-2017
Posts: 514
Quote: "arpad"​Thank you for your quick response. I will read through everything you recommend
​when I eat lunch. The year 903 (1498) would then be 595 (1498-903= 595) . What is
​the significance of the year 595? Thanks again. Arpad
​You are welcome

No, the year 903 lasted from 7 of September 1497 till 26 of August 1498. You can use some of online date converter to calculate this. Or just check the date on a coin page on Numista
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January First-of-May
Joined: 10-Apr-2016
Posts: 738
Quote: "arpad"​Thank you for your quick response. I will read through everything you recommend
​when I eat lunch. The year 903 (1498) would then be 595 (1498-903= 595) . What is
​the significance of the year 595? Thanks again. Arpad
​There is no significance of the year 595; the lunar year of the Islamic calendar is slightly (by about 11 days) shorter than the solar year of most other calendars, so the dates slip a bit over time (by about three years per century).
The actual significant year is 622, the date of Muhammad's move from Mecca to Medina (though I'm not very sure of the exact connotations of this move).

Incidentally, I also miss you on CCF; it took some complications to get even as far as 1461 in the Fifth Edition without your help, and we're still not sure if we could get past 1460 anytime soon (if ever).

For the record, the 1521 Salzburg pfennig I posted in this thread was my second oldest AD dated coin (I do not have any photos of the first oldest, a 1517 zweier also from Salzburg); meanwhile, Islamic dated coins from the 15th century AD turned out to be nowhere near as common as I thought (or, at least, nowhere near as common as those of the 14th century), and thus I do not yet have any (I should probably be looking for a Crimean example, but I'm not sure if I could afford one).
So, given my current collection, my next opportunity to post will not be until we get to 1361 AD (which doesn't sound particularly likely).
phfoticus
Joined: 26-May-2017
Posts: 1425
1496 -- Duchy of Pomerania / Damm, 1 schilling:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces108682.html
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This schilling was minted in Wurzburg.
The I.D. # should read I-355


This zinsgroschen was minted in Leipzig.
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This double patard was minted in Dordrecht.


This double stuiver was minted in Antwerp.


This goldgulden was minted in Frankfurt.
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74
I currently have two 1460 dated coins. (1) 1459, (2) 1458, (0) 1457
and (2) 1456 as well. I have no coins for the years 1451-1455. After
that I have several earlier dates but none of the really tough ones.
The forum would still have to fill many dates just to get back to 1425.
I enjoyed my time at CCF but fate had other plans.
Grinya
Joined: 8-May-2017
Posts: 514
Crimean Khanate - Akce - Mengli I Giray (Caffa Mint) year 901 (1496).


https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces80827.html


available for swap:)
SWAP LIST (lots of Russia (from wire to 2018) + Tannu Tuva, Goths from Taman, Crimea, Grand principality of Moscow, Siberia, Tatarstan, Golden Horde, Genoa, Bukhara, Khiva etc.)
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

A scarce Half Schwertgroschen that has the date
on both sides. Minted in Schneeberg. The ID on
this should be I-336b.


Possibly minted in Heidelberg. Only one
or two collectible specimens available.
ID # should be I-A333 per Robert Levinson's
book.


Another coin with dates on both sides.
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

The ID # on this should be I-325a.
Minted in Frankfurt.


This schilling was minted in Damm. Many times
the medieval "5" is mistaken for a "7".


This coin has the date only on one side.
phfoticus
Joined: 26-May-2017
Posts: 1425
1495 -- Duchy of Pomerania / Damm, 1 schilling:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces108682.html

(no more coins from me until 1492)
Grinya
Joined: 8-May-2017
Posts: 514
Crimean Khanate - Akce - Mengli I Giray (Caffa Mint) year 900 (1495).


https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces80827.html
SWAP LIST (lots of Russia (from wire to 2018) + Tannu Tuva, Goths from Taman, Crimea, Grand principality of Moscow, Siberia, Tatarstan, Golden Horde, Genoa, Bukhara, Khiva etc.)
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This schilling was minted in Damm.


A rare early dated copper piece.
Less than 12 collectable. Minted
in Hasselt.

I have three others, they are waiting
on Todd's magic.
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This Blanken was minted in Cologne.
Less than 4 collectable.


This piece has the last two digits of
the date.


There are two varieties for this date.
I believe that this is the common I-307a.
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74
I have a couple more that are waiting on Todd's magic.
Parimal
Joined: 22-Sep-2012
Posts: 1736
Gujarat Sultanate - 1 Tanka - Nasir al-din Mahmud shah I - AH897 (AD1492) - G&G#G112

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arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This is a Double Groschen minted in Neuss.


This is a half schwertgroschen minted
either in Zwickau or Schneeberg.


This Briquet was minted in Antwerp.
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This schilling was minted in Damm.


The ID should read I-288b. This has a
backwards "2" in the date.


This was minted in Freiberg.
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This goldgulden was minted in Heidelberg.


This is a goldgulden.


This is a Kortling
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74
I will post the rest later today.
phfoticus
Joined: 26-May-2017
Posts: 1425
1492 -- Duchy of Gelderland / Malines -- 2 stuivers / double briquet:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces95654.html
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This is a briquet. Should be I-222a.


This should read III-221.
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This Mariengroschen was struck in Aachen.


This piece was struck at the Deutz mint.


This Krummsteert was struck at the
Emden mint.
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This piece is a Kortling


This Kreuzer was minted in Graz. This
is the only Austrian coin with the date
(14)91.

That's all I have for this year. Could somebody
update the year in the title?
phfoticus
Joined: 26-May-2017
Posts: 1425
1491 (AH896) -- Delhi Sultinate, 1 tanka:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces38507.html
phfoticus
Joined: 26-May-2017
Posts: 1425
1490 -- City of Gottingen, 1 kortling:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces136950.html
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This is a Stuber minted in Wesel.


This is a Stuber minted in Cleve


This is a Gros minted in Antwerp.


This copper four mite was minted in Antwerp.
Less than 12 collectable coins.


A kreuzer minted in Graz.


This Kortling was minted in Gottingen.


This half Schwertgroschen was minted in Zwickau.

Many thanks to who changed the date
in the title.
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This is a gros minted in Antwerp.
ID should read II-113


This turnogroschen was minted in Deutz.


This Albus was also minted in Deutz.


This is a kortling. I hope to upgrade in the future.


This Double Bausche was minted in Mulheim.


This schilling was minted in Garz
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This is a double mite from Ghent.


This is a double heaume. The mint is unknown.


This piece is an upgrade to the one above.
They are both copper. Early dated copper
is rare-very rare. Bob Levinson and Donald
Dool have the top collections in this series.


This is a double petard. The mint is unknown.
Less than 12 collectable.


This is an upgrade to the above piece,
be that as it may.
phfoticus
Joined: 26-May-2017
Posts: 1425
1489 -- City of Gottingen, 1 kortling:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces136949.html
Grinya
Joined: 8-May-2017
Posts: 514
Akce - Mengli I Giray (Qirq-Yer Mint) year 894 (1489)

Available for swap
SWAP LIST (lots of Russia (from wire to 2018) + Tannu Tuva, Goths from Taman, Crimea, Grand principality of Moscow, Siberia, Tatarstan, Golden Horde, Genoa, Bukhara, Khiva etc.)
phfoticus
Joined: 26-May-2017
Posts: 1425
1488 - Electorate of Saxony / Margraviate of Meissen /Schneeberg -- 1/2 schwertgroschen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces108636.html
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This is a petard minted in Ghent.
ID should read II-104a


The ID should read II-104b


This is a Kortling.


This is a half schwertgroschen minted
in Schneeberg. Not pretty, but I've lost
out on upgrades a few times.


A kreuzer minted in Graz.
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This double Griffon was minted in Malines.
The ID should read II-94.
The 1487 and 1486 dated coins
are per Robert Levinson's 2ed. book, some of the rarer
dates. More than half of the examples have fewer than
six examples. The others rarely come up for auction,
and many of those have barely recognizable dates. These
remarks concern European coins from this period, not
Islamic or other regions from this period.
phfoticus
Joined: 26-May-2017
Posts: 1425
1487 (AH892) -- Delhi Sultinate, 1 tanka:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces21363.html

Goron & Goenka D690, Rajgor 1509


(Nothing more from me until 1483)
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This is a half Stuiver.


This is a double Heaume.

For this year and the 1487 I'm lucky to have these pieces.
They rarely come up for sale or the ones that do, sell for many
multiples of the estimate.
Parimal
Joined: 22-Sep-2012
Posts: 1736
Aq Qoyunlu - Tanka - Yaqub - retrograde date AH891 (AD1486)

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arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This is a Stuber minted in Cleve.


This Stuber was minted in Wesel.


This is a Stuiver.


This double Briquet was minted in Dordrecht.


This kreuzer was minted in Vienna.
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This Bausche was minted in Mulheim.


This kreuzer was minted in Graz.
This variety has the "4" in the date
laying down.
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This kreuzer was minted in Vienna.



This is a Bausche minted in Mulheim.


This double Briquet was struck in Antwerp.
phfoticus
Joined: 26-May-2017
Posts: 1425
1483 -- Duchy of Julich-Berg / Mulheim, 1 bausche:

arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This Turnose was minted in Deutz.


This was minted in Freiberg.


This kreuzer was minted in Vienna.


This kreuzer was minted in Graz.


This was minted in Zwickau.


This was minted in Antwerp.
Less than 7 collectable.


This double Briquet was minted in Dordecht.
This variety has a medieval "4" in the date.
ngdawa
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Posts: 3168
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phfoticus
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Posts: 1425
1482 -- Electorate of Saxony / Margraviate of Meissen / Zwickau-Schneeberg, 1/2 schwertgroschen:




(Nothing more from me until 1479)
ngdawa
Joined: 18-Oct-2011
Posts: 3168
1481 (886 AH) – Ottoman Empire, 1 Akçe


​​I've been waiting a long time to be able to post this one :D

Sorry, I missed the 24h rule. :wiz:
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arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This Gros was minted in Bruges.


This double Briquet was minted in Dordrecht.


This four Mites was minted in Antwerp. This is the
first dated copper piece. While copper coins were used
extensively in Southern Europe, Spain for instance, during
this time, they were slow to catch on in other parts of
Europe. For the mint master there was very little profit
in making copper coins even though the populace
needed them.


This was minted in Antwerp.


This Briquet was minted in Antwerp. Bob
Levinson states that there is an overdate,
(I/0), for this date.


The mint is uncertain for this coin according
to Bob Levinson. There are also two varieties
for this coin. A long cross that interrupts the
legend and a short cross that does not. The
above example is the short cross.
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This is a Gros from Antwerp.


This is a Briquet from Antwerp.


This is a double Briquet from Antwerp.


This double Briquet is from Bruges.


This kreuzer was minted in Graz.
Less than 7 collectable.
Moneytane
Joined: 28-Jan-2014
Posts: 583
This thread is great, but not all of us have super fast modems.

Some of us live in countries with crappy internet services and thus loading the page takes over a minute.

Can we please have a new thread, or at least sequester the 15th century coins from the early 16th (Pagination).

I have fibre, but in New Zealand our best speeds are 30Mbps and that is off peak times.
I love coins, both old and precious and also change coins. If its round and shiny, it will garner my interest. I also collect stamps and have an abiding interest in History, Archaeology,  and Social Issues.  I also worship the musical god Prince.
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74
I will wait until Tuesday to start posting again. I hope that
gives the powers that be, time to start a new thread. I will
continue with the date 1479 AD at that time.
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74
Has a new thread been started? If so where? I will wait till Thursday
to start with the date 1479 A.D. here.
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74
I will continue posting with the year 1479 A.D.


This was minted in Hasselt. Not a pretty coin
but I hope to up grade one day.


This is a Braspfennig.


This was minted in Antwerp.


This Briquet was minted in Antwerp. My experience is that
single Briquets are scarcer that double Briquets.


This was minted in Bruges.


This Gros was minted in Bruges.


The mint is uncertain per Robert Levinson's book, 2nd ed.
ngdawa
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Posts: 3168
Quote: "arpad"​I will continue posting with the year 1479 A.D.

​Does all your coins actually have a date on them?
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arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74
@ngdawa Yes, all of the coins that I have posted so far have
a date. When you are looking at one of my posts, the image
on the left contains the date. Most of the time the date will
be in the 9:00-12:00 position on the coin. The date will either
be stated in modern Arabic numbers that we use today, in
Roman numerals, mix of Arabic and Roman numerals or as
a partial date with the last two numerals. Many times medieval
numbers are used, for instance, the number "4" will look like
a "ribbon", the number "5" will look like a "7" and the number
"7" as an upside down "V". I hope this answers your question.
If you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to ask.
phfoticus
Joined: 26-May-2017
Posts: 1425
1479 -- Duchy of Brabant, 2 stuivers / Double Briquet:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces109056.html
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This Groot was minted in Dordrecht.



This Ortug was minted in Stockholm.


This half Ortug was also minted in Stockholm.


This Kreuzer was minted in Lienz.


This Spitzgroschen was minted in Zwickau. This is one of the first two Early Dated
pieces I bought from Glenn Schinke at the Atlanta ANA WFoM in 2001. This piece, along
with the other, will go to the grave with me. Over the years Glenn has sold me several
Early Dated coins. He is very knowledgeable and friendly.
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This double briquet was minted in Antwerp.


This Briquet was also minted in Antwerp.


This double Briquet was minted in Bruges.


This Gros was minted in Bruges.


Per Robert Levinson: Uncertain mint. The ID should
read II-36 .


This Patard was minted in Hasselt.

These six coins represent one of each coin listed in the
Second Edition Of Bob's book for the year.
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This double Briquet was minted in Dordrecht. Less
than twelve collectable.


This Jager was minted in Wijk- bij- Duurstede. This information
comes from Bob's book. This well preserved piece is one of
my favorites. Not bad for 540+ years old.
phfoticus
Joined: 26-May-2017
Posts: 1425
1478 -- Electorate of Saxony / Margraviate of Meissen / Zwickau, 1 spitzgroschen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces108460.html

also: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces167508.html
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This Spitzgroschen was minted in Freiberg. This is the second piece
that Glenn Schinke sold me twenty years ago. When ever I'm at the
SDB I take them out and look at them.


This Spitzgroschen was minted in Zwickau.


This double Briquet was minted in Antwerp.


This was minted in Bruges.


This Jager was minted in Wijk-bij-Duurstede.
phfoticus
Joined: 26-May-2017
Posts: 1425
1477 -- Electorate of Saxony Margraviate of Meissen / Zwickau, 1 spitzgroschen:

arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This Briquet was minted in Antwerp.


This demi Briquet was minted in Antwerp.


This double Briquet was minted in Antwerp.
Moneytane
Joined: 28-Jan-2014
Posts: 583
These coins are all magnificient - briquettes and all.

Some are real works of art in themselves. Today's workaday machine produced steel discs don't have s$%^ on these silver masterpieces.
I love coins, both old and precious and also change coins. If its round and shiny, it will garner my interest. I also collect stamps and have an abiding interest in History, Archaeology,  and Social Issues.  I also worship the musical god Prince.
phfoticus
Joined: 26-May-2017
Posts: 1425
1476 -- Duchy of Brabant, 1 demi Briquet:

arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This Spitzgroschen was minted in Zwickau.


This half Spitzgroschen was minted in Colditz.


this is a Groschen from Cleve.


This is a half Groschen from Cleve.


This Spitzgroschen is from Freiberg.


This half Spitzgroschen was minted in Freiberg


This double Briquet is from Antwerp.


This Briquet is from Antwerp.


This demi Briquet is from Antwerp.




Both of these double Briquets were minted in Bruges.
The difference is in the "5". One is upright the other
sideways.
phfoticus
Joined: 26-May-2017
Posts: 1425
1475 -- Electorate of Saxony / Margraviate of Meissen / Leipzig , 1 spitzgroschen:



https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces80029.html

(nothing more from me until 1473)
arpad
Joined: 12-Jan-2019
Posts: 74

This is a Stuiver.


This is a Stuiver. I hope to upgrade
someday.


This Briquet was minted in Antwerp.


This Briquet was minted in Bruges.

The coins from Germany for this date are very rare.
Three of the issues are known by less than 7 or fewer
collectable examples each and the other two are either in
a museum or known by only one example. Austria has
two coins for this date, one in a museum and the other
known only by a single example.

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