Coin identification [solved]

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ks37217

Joined: 19 Nov 2015
Posts: 48

Posted: 29 Dec 2019, 00:52 #
Edited: 29 Dec 2019, 10:20

Could use your help to identify this coin

Looks like French Charles VI 1380-1422 floriated cross in quadrilobe, with crowns, with a Bohemian Lion and shield on the reverse.

27mm
3.2g

What do you think?

ALM

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Posted: 29 Dec 2019, 14:15 #
Edited: 29 Dec 2019, 14:17

Hello

It must be a groat or gros (GROSSVS in the legend).
Describe the legends of obverse and reverse of the coin !

"...VSENSIS " for a city mint

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ALM

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Posted: 29 Dec 2019, 14:26 #
Edited: 29 Dec 2019, 14:40

https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=4199863&AucID=4340&Lot=857&Val=8a65cdeae1aff0504d50c72d988b4614

not the same coin but ...

it is not a coin of CHARLES VI of France : the shield is not the same !

may be a "gros à l'écu" (Schildgroschen) from Germany, Saxe-Meißen.

Frédéric II and Guillaume III duc of Thüringen (1440-1464).
Schildgroschen (1451-1456). Freiberg.

Avers : F W DEI GRACIA TVRING LANG.

Revers : GROSSVS MARCh MISNEHSIS.
Lion avanceant à gauche avec un écu.

Krug 1034-1041.

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MIMAEL

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Posted: 29 Dec 2019, 14:30 #
Edited: 29 Dec 2019, 14:32

Hi Try to look at ,,míšenský,,Groschen
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1NHXL_csCZ684CZ685&sxsrf=ACYBGNRX-_9Jt8ZTXWX_i6pLpGDgu0GULQ:1577626052264&q=m%C3%AD%C5%A1ensk%C3%BD+gro%C5%A1&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjO3ruD-9rmAhWtQEEAHRwfCe8QsAR6BAgKEAE&biw=1242&bih=568

Ahoj

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Posted: 29 Dec 2019, 14:36 #

Arms of the Margravate of Meissen

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ks37217

Joined: 19 Nov 2015
Posts: 48

Posted: 29 Dec 2019, 15:22 #

Quote: "ALM"https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=4199863&AucID=4340&Lot=857&Val=8a65cdeae1aff0504d50c72d988b4614

not the same coin but ...

it is not a coin of CHARLES VI of France : the shield is not the same !

may be a "gros à l'écu" (Schildgroschen) from Germany, Saxe-Meißen.

Frédéric II and Guillaume III duc of Thüringen (1440-1464).
Schildgroschen (1451-1456). Freiberg.

Avers : F W DEI GRACIA TVRING LANG.

Revers : GROSSVS MARCh MISNEHSIS.
Lion avanceant à gauche avec un écu.

Krug 1034-1041.

That seems to be the coin. Thanks so much

ks37217

Joined: 19 Nov 2015
Posts: 48

Posted: 29 Dec 2019, 15:23 #

Quote: "MIMAEL"Hi Try to look at ,,míšenský,,Groschen
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1NHXL_csCZ684CZ685&sxsrf=ACYBGNRX-_9Jt8ZTXWX_i6pLpGDgu0GULQ:1577626052264&q=m%C3%AD%C5%A1ensk%C3%BD+gro%C5%A1&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjO3ruD-9rmAhWtQEEAHRwfCe8QsAR6BAgKEAE&biw=1242&bih=568

Ahoj

Another great answer. This gives me some great info. Thanks

ks37217

Joined: 19 Nov 2015
Posts: 48

Posted: 29 Dec 2019, 15:24 #