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German_empire5_mark_fan!
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I know that some people have fits about Nazi coins and other people don't mind them at all.In my opinion I am a #4 I believe that Nazi coins are just part of history. I started this Thread for 2 reasons: First reason is just to see what people have to say about them and their personal opinion. Second reason is to take a vote on people's opinion's and see what most people think. THIS IS MEANT TO BE A FRIENDLY VOTE AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE PEOPLE ARGUING! This is what I wanted to vote on:
(You can only choose one of the opinion's below)

#1-I hate Nazi coins and I think that anyone who owns one is also a Nazi.

#2-I think it is bad to own a Nazi coin, but I do not care if others own one.

#3-I simply don't see any numismatic importance in them. I do not have much of an opinion on this topic.

#4-I think it is alright to own a Nazi coin but I do not think the Nazis where good people.

#5-I praise people who own these coins and I support the Nazis.

#6-I don't care.

If you do not want to vote but just want to say your opinion then that is completely acceptable, just say that you are not voting but simply commenting. But if you do want to vote than just say your opinion number and if you want you can something to back it up. Each person gets ONE vote only! On February 1st I will count up all the votes and I will post who wins! Happy voting!
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alfonz
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I would be the 4 too and would guess most people see it the same way.
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I am a #4
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4 of course. And I don't believe anyone will publicly vote 5. :D
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German_empire5_mark_fan!
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Quote: "Jarcek"​4 of course. And I don't believe anyone will publicly vote 5. :D
​I know that probably no one will publicly vote 5, but I put it up just in case.
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CalvinV
Joined: 13-Nov-2019
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Nothing in history should be brushed off simply because some are offended by it for whatever reason, instead we should be reminded of such terrible events in world history so that we can learn from them and never repeat the same mistakes.

Slavery should not be forgotten, items related to slavery should not be destroyed or considered inappropriate to preserve.

Populist movements should not be forgotten, we should be reminded of how democracy can give birth to horrible dictatorships under the right circumstances.
New German generations should not be held responsible for their ancestors past.

Racial segregation should not be forgotten but as with any terrible things of the past it should not be used to justify wrong things, what happened decades ago does not justify what is currently happening in South Africa no matter what.

Buildings shouldn't be blown up simply because a tiny elite has decided to pillage poor countries to boost their country's economy.

Most of us here rely our high standard of living on cheap labor which is comparable to slavery, it's not like our generation doesn't have it's faults and we haven't exactly decided that it is fine having as such that as individuals.


Also, I'd like to note that by making a poll that clearly has a specific agenda isn't exactly the best way to create a proper discussion.

Obviously nobody's going to vote for #1 because it's made to sound like it's a stupid opinion to begin with, although it's probably for best not to have a very controversial topic being discussed openly on a site like Numista because this thread will either be about everybody agreeing with each other or fighting about subjective opinions.

If somebody does actually think that national socialism is a good thing they're obviously not going to say it out loud because they would immediately get attacked by others in this thread.
This poll won't represent the reality of things, if you wish to know what people actually think then you should create an anonymous poll instead.

What's the point of this thread besides jerking over popular opinions?

Here, try this: https://www.strawpoll.me

That is unless your intention is to create a breeding ground for personally attacking those with controversial opinions, in my opinion it's better to create an anonymous survey and discuss the topic openly.
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German_empire5_mark_fan!
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Thanks for the input CalvinV. I will definitely try out the link.( by the way I like your profile pic!)
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This topic was discussed years ago, here: https://en.numista.com/forum/topic53326.html
yvon
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What is the difference between a 'Nazi'coin and any other coin??????? Is it the coins mistake it was minted
in a certain time by certain people? I actually do not see the use of this question. If I owe some, so-called Nazi-coins (I do indeed) does it mean I support some barbaric regime from mor than 80 years ago??? Btw what about
coins minted by other, discutable, rulers or regimes for example the former USSR? or lets say North-Korea or the US:°
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I hope nobody owns Mongol coins from the Genghis period ...
they killed more than 10% of the global population
German_empire5_mark_fan!
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Quote: "Idolenz"​I hope nobody owns Mongol coins from the Genghis period ...
​they killed more than 10% of the global population
​lol. Very true
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Saber82
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No4. It is part of history. The best of us and the last of us. Of course I Don support the nazi wrong doing. If they never go to war, they could be a very powerful nation by now with a rich history. Why do I say so?

Because they are in debt in the beginning. Hilter brought them out of that into a stable and prosperus nation. But in the later part when they go to war, it become a problem. Espically on those genocide crimes.
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nosouvenirs
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Personally, I fall in at #2. If you have them, fine - people have their reasons, and I'm not going to judge that (and I do NOT believe that most people who own them are Nazis). I, however, do not want Nazi coins, and will never buy or swap for them. I don't want any Nazi representation or history of any kind among my possessions. Other people can do that if they want, but it isn't for me.
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Kurt53
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There are two issues being polled. One is numismatic and the other political.
I'll collect their coins same as any other.
As for the politics of Germany history, I encourage you to treat it the same as any other. Investigate from both sides. Nearly all regimes use propaganda to remain in power.
My axiom is that historians are more often punished for telling the truth than for reiterating the party line.
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numinis
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As for the vote, I see no suitable option for me. The closest option is #4, but I should add that I don't want to own or even see these coins.

After reading the older thread (the link is given above), I see no point in repeating what was said there.
Sadly there is a trend to post without reading when a thread is longer.
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Moneytane
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4 - Nazis were despicable, but then again most coins are from regimes that at least some people will find despicable.

Not choosing to collect a coin because of the regime it represented is just daft, unless you are venerating that group through the coin. I mean I love British empire coins and colonial coinage from Africa, India and the Caribbean, yet the British were assholes to the locals calling them inferior and treating them like shit. Calling them savages and basic and all this other shit.

I don't particularly like Nazi coins as most of them looked cheap and awful (Those ugly zinc 5 and 10 Pfennig) and even the 2 and 5 mark coins are basic and understated by some of the magnificient coins issued in the 1930s (Like my beloved British and New Zealand Halfcrowns and Liberty walker halves).

Yes I agree having option 5 is baiting - why do you need to state if someone liked the Nazis, how about just saying they liked the coins of the Nazis and leave it there. We all know that neo Nazis are serious issue in Europe (Particularly the east) and that anti semitism and anti Islamic racism has been rarked up by idiots like Donald Trump, Nigel Farage and Marine le Pen. Why give these ideas oxygen and air them out loud.

Calvin V has given the best answer so far and I agree with it.

PS I have a few manky 5 and 10 Pfennig coins dated 1940 and 1941 along with some Kaiserine German coins as well.
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Camerinvs
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Like many others, I would fall in the #4 category, and I'm actually interested in Nazi coins and notes because I'm interested in bad ideologies both on the right (e.g. Fascism and Nazism) and on the left (e.g. Communism or the current SJW madness).

I bought a Nazi-era 5 Mark two years ago in Berlin, at the Sunday markets (in the Bernauerstraße area). Interestingly, there were traces of tape left over the swastika; I didn't remove them, though it would have been easy to do so with acetone.

Coins and notes of dictatorial regimes are, IMHO, more interesting than republican coinages and the coinages of democratic and stable regimes. I don't see much interest in the head of a pseudo-woman representing Liberty or something like that, decade after decade. Of course, I am not advocating for the return of dictatorship so that we would have more interesting coinage... I'm just making an observation. That so many states have a boring coinage is perhaps a good thing.

To take an ancient example, I don't find much interest in Roman mid-Republican coinage: head of Minerva or Roma on the obverse and a prow or chariot on the reverse. Imperatorial and imperial coinages are, again IMHO, much more interesting.

And as for the Nazis, postage stamps are actually a lot more interesting as a representation of the regime than the coins or notes. Hitler himself was a stamp collector especially interested in the stamps of the British Empire as a reflection of their colonialism (if I remember correctly).

By the way, I've always wondered why Hitler was so prominent on German postage stamps, but never on coins and notes. Instead, they barely dared to represent the Swastika clenched by the eagle, with the Hindenburg type repeated for several years on the silver ─ a type which should have been a one-year commemorative issue.
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Dato Mikeladze
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coinage of the third Reich. " NAZI COINS" is commercial term, to sell a part of history.
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I suspect #4 is the closest to my opinion, but I don't really care that much about Nazi coins in particular. Not a series I'm actively collecting, and for the most part they're rather ugly.

However, while I could hardly care less if someone is collecting Nazi coins or not, I still believe that there is no problem in collecting Nazi coins, or indeed coins of any other* dictatorial and/or genocidal regime (e.g. the Congo Free State).
As such, I find it rather weird when people start calling other people Nazis (and/or insensitive) because said other people collect Nazi coins. I do care about that part.
(I actually do have a few Nazi coins in my own collection, but they're mostly holdovers from my "get lots of everything" days, and/or really cheap bargain bin finds.)

...For what it's worth, if I ever end up finding a cheap Congo Free State coin, I'd totally buy it. They're much cooler than the Nazi coins.

[EDIT: I also agree with Dato Mikeladze, but "Nazi coins" is a convenient shorthand.]


*) that does not still actively profit from those coins, at least, so I guess not ISIS; can't think of any other such possibilities offhand... don't think North Korea would count?
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I'm sorry but I don't think "Third Reich" is any better. It was the Nazis themselves giving this name to Germany in their grandiose ideological vision of the rebirth of a German Empire after what they considered the First and Second Reiche, i.e. the Holy Roman Empire (to 1806) and the German Empire from 1871 to the end of the First World War, when the last German Kaiser abdicated.

EDIT: Yet I acknowledge that the Nazi party was in power, and they "baptized" their regime with that name, the Third Reich, officially. It is not like the "Weimar Republic", which is an unofficial name for the regime that happened to be founded in ... Weimar.

Like France from Louis XVI to the 1870s, it's interesting to organize German coins by periods, say from the late 1700s to the 1950s, because you see all the changes in political regimes reflected in the coinage.
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Quote: "Camerinvs"
​By the way, I've always wondered why Hitler was so prominent on German postage stamps, but never on coins and notes. Instead, they barely dared to represent the Swastika clenched by the eagle, with the Hindenburg type repeated for several years on the silver ─ a type which should have been a one-year commemorative issue.
​I did some research into the question a few years back and it's quite an interesting story.

Hitler had two main sources of income apart from a modest government salary - royalties from Mein Kampf and a quite hefty payment for licencing his image on postage stamps. I didn't know he was a stamp collector but that may explain why the 3rd Reich stamp issues are of such high quality and interest compared to the rather more austere coins. Learn something new every day, thank you my dear fellow!

With regard to coins it's very curious that none were ever issued with the Fuhrer's likeness. Given the revenue from postage stamps was quite substantial he certainly had a financial incentive. It for sure wasn't modesty as his image was used extensively on many items other than postage stamps. The story, as I recall it, goes that around 1942 he was presented with a proof set at the Wolf's Lair in East Prussia but rejected the design as he didn't want to use his image until the final victory.

It's not known what happened to the original proof set but it's long been rumored that the dies were smuggled to Argentina and were used to create mementos for German ex-pats living in Buenos Aires during the 1950s. I've never seen one in person although there was a set shown in a news story about a former SS officer who's family found a room full of WWII artifacts after his death.

They're listed in K&M although I'm far from convinced that these are the same coins presented to Hitler. Mainly because there's no date (the "1933" refers to the start of the 3rd Reich some nine years earlier) and the swastika was usually shown being clasped by an eagle in the Parteiadler, not by itself. The hokey"Germanic" font and crude portrait are also red flags. Surely they would have made use of the already licenced and approved image used on the stamps? It looks more like one of those fantasy / tribute coins being peddled on Ebay.

See what you think -

https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/germany-third-reich-20-reichsmark-x-pn21-1933-cuid-1174483-duid-1319777
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Camerinvs
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Thanks, Phil ─ very interesting! And I agree that the "coin" doesn't look like a German trial issue.

This got me to look for more information about the stamps, and I found and downloaded an article precisely on Third Reich stamps: Frederick Lauritzen, "Propaganda Art in the Postage Stamps of the Third Reich" in The Journal of Decorative and Propaganda Arts, Vol. 10 (1988), pp. 62─79. On the first page, the author happens to say this (!):

I have calculated that from the emission of the first Third Reich postage stamp on 12 April 1933 to the last printed in Germany on 10 April 1945 (coinciding with Hitler's fifty-sixth birthday only ten days before his suicide in the Berlin Fuhrerbunker), the series included 334 different subjects: an average of 30 new subjects every year in Germany alone. This variety is quite remarkable, especially when compared with Nazi coinage where the head of Germany's President von Hindenburg continued to be used unaltered throughout the Third Reich (Adolf Hitler's portrait which, as we shall see, was often used on Third Reich stamps, never appeared on German coins of the period!).
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jimpop
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To be fair, there is no option for "I love nazis but hate their coins"

I personally land somewhere around 4 myself
Dato Mikeladze
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Coinage of the third Reich is a coinage of legal country, which never change a coinage after increasing their territory. It was just a money for millions of people, lived in Germany on that times. They never issued evena coin for special ( commemorative NAZI event or date) . For me its just a collecting, numismatic material, and nothing more. Coinage was not propaganda. swastika was just a power symbol, which were prohibited later.
absolutely different is so-called coins of ISIS, which are totally propaganda .

I`d say, that there were a lot of much more evil in the world, than nazi regime, the acts of which have not been condemned so far, unlike the Nazi regime - Central African Empire, Uganda, Congo colonial coins, Stalin`s coinage of 1921-1953.. These regimes killed thousands and millions of their own innocent citizens. But we collect these coins because it was just a money for whole country. people were buying bread a water for that money.

№ 4 sounds too kiddy, but of course 4.
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#4

Also I don't like the designs (too plain!) and zinc
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AshsCollectablesStore
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They're history. Simple as that. Buying a Nazi coin will not support/fund or anything the Nazi Party because they no longer exist as an organisation.

They're not inherently evil to say, they were the currency and coins of the country at the time. They were minted to be used in an economy much like every coin that's minted today.

This thread reminds me of the one about ISIS coins, in which you shouldn't try to obtain them as you could be supporting the organisation by doing so.

I have a decent collection of Nazi coins, they go into my Germany collection and it wouldn't make sense to me to collect the many variations of german coins and skip a design/period just because they have swastikas on them.
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Camerinvs
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Good points. If you think about it, even if you fiercely opposed the Nazi regime, whether you were a left-leaning German, a Jew, or whoever else the Nazis oppressed, you had no choice in your daily life but to use the state coinage to buy bread and milk, gas, a train ticket, etc.

Now, if the Nazis had produced the same deluxe trash as modern states do solely for profit, i.e. the so-called non-circulating legal tender "coins", then yes, there would be an ethical problem in collecting such items. The same is true, I suppose, for ISIS coins. If I'm not mistaken, ISIS produced both circulating coins and NCLTs, the latter meant to finance their murderous operations.¹

One more note about the Hindenburg commemoratives: As I said, they should have been a one-year type, but when you think about it, in many ways Hindenburg was the enabler of the rise of Hitler and the Nazi regime. Within two months, not only had Hitler been made Chancellor (30 Jan. 1933) but also "Dictator" in all but name by March of the same year. The Hindenburg type over the Nazi years was meant to proclaim continuity with the past (i.e. the so-called Weimar Republic), but this served to legitimize a regime that actually had come to power in a political coup ratified by Hindenburg.
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ALLRED1950
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You know that I have very strange family history, My great grand father left Germany with his younger brother. From a family of 12. In the 1870's became a US resident in the 1880's. Which sound strange, but had family members on each side in WWI and WWII. In WWII my family had a big mounts and said what they thought of the Nazis . Which landed them all in camps, men, woman and kids.In 1946 the last family member still alive was smuggled out of Germany. At that time the red cross would help for ten thousand dollars and the army and others had they hands out. The red cross has a very seedy past. So having family members killed by Nazis only because having said what they thought. It is part of my family history, an ugly part. But I see no point in glorifying them. But it is history. And yes I have a lot of Nazi coins. And see no reason not to have them in my collection. And don't think it is wrong to have them. I find this poll to be more ugly then the coins.
Now after they went to camps and there land was mostly given to the church. Which has a more seedy past with the Nazis than the red cross. And helped them. Should we not collect Vatican coins. The pope at first gave Hitler his blessing. How about the little fat man next door to Germany. After WWii he kill I think more people than Hitler. Come on now , over the last 800 years Every group of human kill large number of other people for gold or just being in the way. Who would be left to collect. No one.
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Kurt53
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I fail to see the difference between collecting the coins of Nazis and those of Fascists.


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ALLRED1950
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A side note. Money is the root of evil. If you think about it money has been the driving force for killings of hundred's of millions of people. Though out time. Or to get it. And what do we collect, money.
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Good video on that topic...

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Camerinvs
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While I am far from being a fan of the current US administration, it's important to stress that the fasces are not a fascist symbol as such. In fact, neither the fasces nor the swastika were fascist symbols until the 20th century. The swastika (which the Nazis turned over so that it is "backward") was a symbol of good luck and it's found on many "good luck" tokens, such as this British one. The fasces go back to ancient Rome ─ actually, ancient Etruria. The symbol was used again over the past three centuries. Most notable is the coinage of the French Revolution and it looks like on the US gold eagle and half eagle, the eagle is standing on a bundle of fasces as well (and note the olive branch as on the Mercury dime).
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Kurt53
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It appears to me that the eagle on the Gold Eagle coin is atop a bundle of arrows.
However, I find the topic of symbolic images on coins and currency of great interest. And think it would warrant a separate thread.
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MIMAEL
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Hi colleagues.
I'm playful, and would like to participate in this game. But this game doesn't make sense to me!
I understand the assignment, the reasoning of the majority, but my head doesn't make sense.
To my knowledge so Nazism is an ideology and coins are intended for payment.
Paying for bread is not an ideology. As for symbols, there is another thing, All the monstrous modes and their simboli are often induce displeasure and are often prohibited by law.
In the Czech Republic, the simboli of Nazism and Communism are set to the same level. And I have to throw all the coins out of my native Czechoslovakia???
The Communist star on the coins is in the same category. There are many examples of coins from other modes. Please do not confuse ideologies and coins.
Certainly the closest is No. 4 -but to judge membership in the organization of nazism and ideology and to say who was good and bad is inaccurate, many Germans helped in the resistance from our point of view probably the good ones people and yet they paid from coins with simboli crazy ideology they paid for bread.
I paid with coins with a big communist star-am I therefore a bad person?
And what do you pay today and your state's ideology is monstrous ?
Please think in terms of history and logic!

Ivan
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Quote: "MIMAEL"​Paying for bread is not an ideology. [...]
In the Czech Republic, the symbols of Nazism and Communism are set to the same level. And I have to throw all the coins out of my native Czechoslovakia???
​The Communist star on the coins is in the same category. There are many examples of coins from other modes. Please do not confuse ideologies and coins.
[...] to judge membership in the organization of Nazism and ideology and to say who was good and bad is inaccurate, many Germans helped in the resistance from our point of view probably the good ones people and yet they paid from coins with symbols crazy ideology they paid for bread.
​I paid with coins with a big communist star ─ am I therefore a bad person?
​Exactly. And while I've never experienced anything like living under an authoritarian regime here in America, it's what I said several posts above yours:
Quote: "Camerinvs"If you think about it, even if you fiercely opposed the Nazi regime, whether you were a left-leaning German, a Jew, or whoever else the Nazis oppressed, you had no choice in your daily life but to use the state coinage to buy bread and milk, gas, a train ticket, etc.
But here's an American example: US coins carry the legend "In God We Trust" which is barely legal given the (now more and more theoretical) separation of Church and State by the Founders of the State. Whether they care or not, polytheists, agnostics, atheists, and other non-Christians have no choice but to use this coinage anyway.
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