edduns
Joined: 17-Oct-2013
Posts: 776
Posted: 13-Feb-2020, 01:11AM
Posted: 13-Feb-2020, 01:11AM
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ALLRED1950
Joined: 2-Jul-2012
Posts: 4327
Posted: 13-Feb-2020, 09:57AM
Posted: 13-Feb-2020, 09:57AM
Hi ED
That looks to good to be true. I think you need some people from Belgium to weigh in. Unreported poof I have heard of them. But I really have no ideal on this, way out of my area.
It is, what it is.
King
Joined: 11-Apr-2016
Posts: 112
Posted: 13-Feb-2020, 11:29AM
Posted: 13-Feb-2020, 11:29AM
Have you contacted NGC? After all they are the company saying it is what it is, their reputation on the line.
Two possible outcomes; 1 experts in the field of numismatics confirm it is what they say it is and stand by their experience and expertise or 2 the said experts eventually say woops we made a mistake!
p.s I have no idea about said coins, and do not know if any proof exists for this coin with this year. If they didn't make proofs in this year the chances are NGC have mislabelled the coin, which isn't uncommon for an American company who's actual expertise is American coins.
MIMAEL
Joined: 25-Dec-2016
Posts: 543
Posted: 13-Feb-2020, 12:12PM
Posted: 13-Feb-2020, 12:12PM
Quote: "King"Have you contacted NGC? After all they are the company saying it is what it is, their reputation on the line.
Two possible outcomes; 1 experts in the field of numismatics confirm it is what they say it is and stand by their experience and expertise or 2 the said experts eventually say woops we made a mistake!
p.s I have no idea about said coins, and do not know if any proof exists for this coin with this year. If they didn't make proofs in this year the chances are NGC have mislabelled the coin, which isn't uncommon for an American company who's actual expertise is American coins.
Ahoj and have a nice day.
NGC does not mention "Proof". This is written by the seller!
Definition:
PF 64- Average or better embossing with several tracks and hair scratches, or other inaccuracy .
This is what the scale used by NGC told me, What the seller tells is his opinion, Unless he said false and mislead the buyer is a crime in most cultured countries.
I write it without knowledge if they were technology ,, Proof,, this manufacturing process is applied to these coins -that's another question.
Ivan
MIMAEL
Joined: 25-Dec-2016
Posts: 543
Posted: 13-Feb-2020, 12:41PM
Posted: 13-Feb-2020, 12:41PM
Please excuse my mistake.
only later did I realize the typo, in the MS / PF evaluation.
Yes, NGC accurately reports PF
It is purely their responsibility!
apology one more time
the coin corresponds to MS64.
Ivan
Pcoetzee5
Joined: 19-Jul-2012
Posts: 225
Posted: 13-Feb-2020, 03:35PM
Posted: 13-Feb-2020, 03:35PM
Perhaps someone who knows can look the coin up on the NGC site and confirm that it has actually been graded by NGC.
As fat as I am aware, this is possible.
Ex-South African now living in Germany
Idolenz
Joined: 13-Jul-2013
Posts: 3454
Posted: 13-Feb-2020, 04:03PM
Posted: 13-Feb-2020, 04:03PM
Ciin
Joined: 2-Dec-2019
Posts: 148
Posted: 13-Feb-2020, 11:21PM
Posted: 13-Feb-2020, 11:21PM
NGC has no reference of this coin, which is suspicious since it would be in the population if they ever graded it.
NGC Population/Reference:
https://www.ngccoin.com/census/world/belgium/sc-40/25c/?c=49614
Idolenz
Joined: 13-Jul-2013
Posts: 3454
Posted: 13-Feb-2020, 11:48PM
Posted: 13-Feb-2020, 11:48PM
Hint, if you are looking for proof coins one should also look at the proof lists
Pcoetzee5
Joined: 19-Jul-2012
Posts: 225
Posted: 14-Feb-2020, 06:18AM
Posted: 14-Feb-2020, 06:18AM
Well done Idolenz, once I have some time I will have a look at how it works. Tx for your assistance
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