CoinCollector1243
Joined: 6-Oct-2019
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Posted: 6-Jul-2020, 15:33
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Posted: 6-Jul-2020, 15:33
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Now that Numista has a healthy bank one catalogue, I am wondering if anyone here left a Colnect. If you were wondering, I did.
BCNumismatics
Joined: 24-Jan-2009
Posts: 3020
Posted: 6-Jul-2020, 20:36
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Posted: 6-Jul-2020, 20:36
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Colnect was impossible to contribute to, so, yes, I left Colnect as a result.
Aidan.
BramVB
Joined: 17-Jul-2016
Posts: 1173
Posted: 6-Jul-2020, 20:58
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Posted: 6-Jul-2020, 20:58
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Never got as far as doing a swap there, my banknote collection is now 2/3 on numista ... as soon as my swaplist is filled up I hope to get swapping here :)
I do have to admit that I still go back there to search for the differences between types and signatures, but as documentation gets added on Numista that will soon be a thing of the past.
Just call me Bram
Oh! And do read my profile page before you open a swap ...
JRo69
Joined: 9-Jul-2015
Posts: 936
Posted: 6-Jul-2020, 22:54
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Posted: 6-Jul-2020, 22:54
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I no longer use Colnect, although I have not left the site. I just ignore it, now that my banknote collection is no Numista.
COINMAN1
Joined: 8-Jun-2013
Posts: 2696
Posted: 7-Jul-2020, 10:44
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Posted: 7-Jul-2020, 10:44
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I have not left the Colnect website, and do not intend doing so.
There are elements of the Numista site I do not like, so am staying put.
The German Notgeld section is a complete disaster. Many without catalogue numbers and how they are organized is dreadful.
I'm just a collector of coins, not a slave to it, unless I am in a coin shop.
For all you banknote collectors. Link to my swap list.
https://colnect.com/en/banknotes/list/swap_list/COINMAN1
ngdawa
Joined: 18-Oct-2011
Posts: 5587
Posted: 7-Jul-2020, 17:32
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Posted: 7-Jul-2020, 17:32
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Quote: "COINMAN1"I have not left the Colnect website, and do not intend doing so.
There are elements of the Numista site I do not like, so am staying put.
I agree!
Coin referee for: AZE, FRO, GRL, US-HI, KOR, KGZ, MLI, MHL, MMR, PRK, UZB, SML, TAT, TWN, TJK
Banknote referee for: AGO, AZE, BLR, ECS, GEO, HTI, KAZ, KGZ, KOR, MNG, MRT, PMR, PRK, ROK, SWE, TJK, TKM, TUR, UZB, WSM, ZWE
Salaction_old
Joined: 2-Apr-2017
Posts: 438
Posted: 7-Jul-2020, 18:04
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Posted: 7-Jul-2020, 18:04
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Which with time and the Numista community help we will get fixed I am sure of, but yes indeed right now I haven’t left colnect yet either, but I will do so once Numista is proper! It has the potential to become better for sure :)
COINMAN1
Joined: 8-Jun-2013
Posts: 2696
Posted: 7-Jul-2020, 18:32
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Posted: 7-Jul-2020, 18:32
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Quote: "Salaction"Which with time and the Numista community help we will get fixed I am sure of, but yes indeed right now I haven’t left colnect yet either, but I will do so once Numista is proper! It has the potential to become better for sure :)
My question therefore is:- Who is going to make it proper?
Surely, that should have happened from the beginning. If it continues as is, it will get a bigger mess, and take even longer to sort out.
I'm just a collector of coins, not a slave to it, unless I am in a coin shop.
For all you banknote collectors. Link to my swap list.
https://colnect.com/en/banknotes/list/swap_list/COINMAN1
allexis
Joined: 25-Jun-2014
Posts: 1089
Posted: 7-Jul-2020, 19:18
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Posted: 7-Jul-2020, 19:18
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Quote: "COINMAN1"I have not left the Colnect website, and do not intend doing so.
There are elements of the Numista site I do not like, so am staying put.
The German Notgeld section is a complete disaster. Many without catalogue numbers and how they are organized is dreadful.
That's right, not only that category, but entire nations like France and USA. I don't like the way they are cataloged and I don't think that's going to change. I said it before, if every nation will want a different system to categorize their banknotes, were we will end to? Despite that I will keep adding banknotes to the catalog, I am at over 700 now. Another reason for not leaving Colnect is that I had over 70 swaps there, so for me it worked.
darcyrmt
Joined: 14-Oct-2011
Posts: 162
Posted: 7-Jul-2020, 21:07
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Posted: 7-Jul-2020, 21:07
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Just as there are people here who don't use Colnect, there are others there who don't use Numista. For me, I have two databases to help identify what I want and two pools of collectors to trade with - so I will stay with both, same ID, and as best as possible, same swap lists.
Salaction_old
Joined: 2-Apr-2017
Posts: 438
Posted: 7-Jul-2020, 22:15
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Posted: 7-Jul-2020, 22:15
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Edited: 7-Jul-2020, 22:16
Quote: "COINMAN1"
Quote: "Salaction"Which with time and the Numista community help we will get fixed I am sure of, but yes indeed right now I haven’t left colnect yet either, but I will do so once Numista is proper! It has the potential to become better for sure :)
My question therefore is:- Who is going to make it proper?
Surely, that should have happened from the beginning. If it continues as is, it will get a bigger mess, and take even longer to sort out.
It's a collective effort. You can help out yourself as well. And look at your catalog contributions I think you are trying to :)
COINMAN1
Joined: 8-Jun-2013
Posts: 2696
Posted: 7-Jul-2020, 22:42
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Posted: 7-Jul-2020, 22:42
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Yes, it's a collective effort that is very amateurish.
They talked about banknotes on Numista for years without any real interest from the top, then without any warning, there it was.
There seems to have been no consultation with the membership, getting any feedback as to their thoughts, so it just appeared.
There is no system, masses amount of missing information, thus being difficult to use.
I feel no real interest in joining this.
Unlike the coins on Numista, which gets an A*
I'm just a collector of coins, not a slave to it, unless I am in a coin shop.
For all you banknote collectors. Link to my swap list.
https://colnect.com/en/banknotes/list/swap_list/COINMAN1
Serial_Number_8
Joined: 2-May-2020
Posts: 1145
Posted: 7-Jul-2020, 22:55
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Posted: 7-Jul-2020, 22:55
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Edited: 7-Jul-2020, 22:59
In 2018 the
Canadian Paper Money Forum (CPMF) shut down so I had to look for an alternative site & found
Coin Community Family forum. There I learned about this site & from this site I heard about
Colnect. This all happened about the same time I started collecting world banknotes (& discovered the
Banknote Index & other reference sites) which I linked on my
Notaphylic Sites page.
While the Colnect forum there seems quite inactive (for banknotes at least), I don't mind using its other features. In fact, I'm happy that the CPMF transferred ownership & forced me to search for other online resources & forums. I will probably keep using it.
As far as Numista's catalogue feature goes, I'm impressed with its scope and believe that no matter how it unfolds, we're fortunate to have free use of it. Canada's Charlton Guide lists all sorts of variations for Bank of Canada series (& earlier Dominion notes) which the SCWPM misses completely. But that doesn't mean I dismiss it (as I really enjoy having a these big tomes kicking about- searching other country's notes). Ironically, many of the subtle signature, prefix, year change-overs & short series have been well documented online (by CPMF) but missed by Charlton (as they scramble to keep up) for Canada's last 2 series. I would never expect a world catalogue to capture all the subtle intricacies of each nation's series. It's one of the reasons I continue to search online sources which can sort of help me keep somewhat up-to-date.
Salaction_old
Joined: 2-Apr-2017
Posts: 438
Posted: 7-Jul-2020, 23:54
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Posted: 7-Jul-2020, 23:54
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Quote: "COINMAN1"COINMAN1
There seems to have been no consultation with the membership, getting any feedback as to their thoughts, so it just appeared.
There is no system, masses amount of missing information, thus being difficult to use
I'd be interested in what you'd like to see happening, besides major obvious changes
Why wouldn't we be able to get it the A* like the coins? With shared passion and effort we will get there over time!
COINMAN1
Joined: 8-Jun-2013
Posts: 2696
Posted: 8-Jul-2020, 09:53
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Posted: 8-Jul-2020, 09:53
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Quote: "Salaction"
Quote: "COINMAN1"COINMAN1
There seems to have been no consultation with the membership, getting any feedback as to their thoughts, so it just appeared.
There is no system, masses amount of missing information, thus being difficult to use
I'd be interested in what you'd like to see happening, besides major obvious changes Why wouldn't we be able to get it the A* like the coins? With shared passion and effort we will get there over time!
besides major obvious changes!!!!!
That just about sums it up. If pre-planning had been done, there would have been a need for only minor changes.
Major changes takes lots of time and efford, which surely would be better utilized in growing this banknote part of Numista.
I'm just a collector of coins, not a slave to it, unless I am in a coin shop.
For all you banknote collectors. Link to my swap list.
https://colnect.com/en/banknotes/list/swap_list/COINMAN1
Oklahoman
Numista team
Joined: 20-Dec-2015
Posts: 2957
Posted: 8-Jul-2020, 11:08
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Posted: 8-Jul-2020, 11:08
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Edited: 8-Jul-2020, 12:21
Nobody is limiting anyone's contributions. They are all valuable. Thanks for the hundreds of edits and creations, Allexis. I also appreciate how you create listings for the countries that you are a referee for, but that do not already exist.
Numista will get there. It is only months old.
edited to include that Allexis' contributions and new page creations are for countries he may not be a referee for.
Library Media Specialist, columnist, collector, and gardener...
GiannaReggio
Joined: 27-Nov-2015
Posts: 303
Posted: 8-Jul-2020, 12:56
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Posted: 8-Jul-2020, 12:56
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I plan to register my banknotes on Numista and then forgetting about Collnet
CirculableCoins
i_getsov
Joined: 26-Sep-2015
Posts: 231
Posted: 9-Jul-2020, 18:29
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Posted: 9-Jul-2020, 18:29
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I never was much around Colnect,so it dropped down itself-created my accounts at both sites within a couple of days in 2015,and soon Numista turned to work much better for me.
It was quite a funny moment when I found out that one of my most common swap-in-person partners here in the city turned out to be a Colnect-only guy,and we never knew it for over 20+swaps and trades in person...then we continued to swap and trade and we still continue,regardless of our site preferences:)
ngdawa
Joined: 18-Oct-2011
Posts: 5587
Posted: 9-Jul-2020, 18:47
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Posted: 9-Jul-2020, 18:47
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I have left Colnect when it comes to my coin collection. But my banknote I still havd on there, since I reckon they have a better way to presebt the catalogues. In a few years I do think Numista will be superior Colnect even there, but for now I'm using both.
Coin referee for: AZE, FRO, GRL, US-HI, KOR, KGZ, MLI, MHL, MMR, PRK, UZB, SML, TAT, TWN, TJK
Banknote referee for: AGO, AZE, BLR, ECS, GEO, HTI, KAZ, KGZ, KOR, MNG, MRT, PMR, PRK, ROK, SWE, TJK, TKM, TUR, UZB, WSM, ZWE
Oklahoman
Numista team
Joined: 20-Dec-2015
Posts: 2957
Posted: 10-Jul-2020, 14:40
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Posted: 10-Jul-2020, 14:40
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I know that sometimes photographs get by us, from places we do not have persmission to use...but Numista is very good about removing those images. It seems like colnect has operated from a place of no ethic for years. It is a point of pride that I have absolutely nothing to do with them.
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COINMAN1
Joined: 8-Jun-2013
Posts: 2696
Posted: 10-Jul-2020, 15:01
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Posted: 10-Jul-2020, 15:01
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Quote: "Oklahoman"I know that sometimes photographs get by us, from places we do not have persmission to use...but Numista is very good about removing those images. It seems like colnect has operated from a place of no ethic for years. It is a point of pride that I have absolutely nothing to do with them.
I would be very interested to learn how you know Colnect has used photographs without permission. Can you provide examples.
I'm just a collector of coins, not a slave to it, unless I am in a coin shop.
For all you banknote collectors. Link to my swap list.
https://colnect.com/en/banknotes/list/swap_list/COINMAN1
Oklahoman
Numista team
Joined: 20-Dec-2015
Posts: 2957
Posted: 10-Jul-2020, 15:30
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Edited: 10-Jul-2020, 15:33
You can see for yourself by searching colnect any of the threads on that topic available on this website. I'm on numista's side over the ethically compromised Colnect every time.
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apuking
Joined: 31-Oct-2012
Posts: 8689
Posted: 10-Jul-2020, 18:37
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Posted: 10-Jul-2020, 18:37
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A few 100‘s of my personal pictures can be found on colnect, I have never given them any approval nor was I asked.
I never had an account there but never liked the site, hearing of how their management teams reacted With numista politely asking to remove some pictures Im put off even more to even come close to their site.
If you like coins, medals and tokens with ship motives follow my new instagram account with regular updates @numisnautiker
From time to time I sell some coins on Ebay make sure to follow me @apuking on Ebay.
ngdawa
Joined: 18-Oct-2011
Posts: 5587
Posted: 10-Jul-2020, 20:56
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Posted: 10-Jul-2020, 20:56
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Quote: "COINMAN1"I would be very interested to learn how you know Colnect has used photographs without permission. Can you provide examples.
This is widely known. They have no shane at all when it comes to stealing. They have stolen hundreds of poctures from Numista, both members'pi tures and pictures from sites given they premission - to Numista.
Coin referee for: AZE, FRO, GRL, US-HI, KOR, KGZ, MLI, MHL, MMR, PRK, UZB, SML, TAT, TWN, TJK
Banknote referee for: AGO, AZE, BLR, ECS, GEO, HTI, KAZ, KGZ, KOR, MNG, MRT, PMR, PRK, ROK, SWE, TJK, TKM, TUR, UZB, WSM, ZWE
Serial_Number_8
Joined: 2-May-2020
Posts: 1145
Posted: 28-Jul-2020, 02:02
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Posted: 28-Jul-2020, 02:02
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I have just de-activated my account on Colnect. (feeling kind of
right now). As soon as I joined I had an administrator request that I identify myself. I did so & there was no further issue until just recently. Then I got another email stating I needed to provide a scan of my passport (or some other government document) to verify my identity. I replied with the old email (the same admin sent) but he insisted I send a scan of photo ID. I was about to send a copy of my passport (with certain sections redacted) but then had a change of heart since so many members here had negative experiences. I have only made 1 post in their super-silent forum.
In fact I even went so far as to add this small blurb on collecting to their
wiki-section on collecting banknotes. One forum post (on collecting pre-Euro - like on Numista) & that blurb on collecting warrants enquiries on my identity? Very odd considering I've been a member on many forums & have never been asked to provide such info.
They have provided no clear reason why I needed to provide a scan of my passport (other than citing that it was to prevent suspicious activity) so I decided to deactivate my account.
CoinCollector1243
Joined: 6-Oct-2019
Posts: 1106
Posted: 28-Jul-2020, 02:11
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Posted: 28-Jul-2020, 02:11
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Quote: "Serial_Number_8"I have just de-activated my account on Colnect. (feeling kind of right now). As soon as I joined I had an administrator request that I identify myself. I did so & there was no further issue until just recently. Then I got another email stating I needed to provide a scan of my passport (or some other government document) to verify my identity. I replied with the old email (the same admin sent) but he insisted I send a scan of photo ID. I was about to send a copy of my passport (with certain sections redacted) but then had a change of heart since so many members here had negative experiences. I have only made 1 post in their super-silent forum.
In fact I even went so far as to add this small blurb on collecting to their wiki-section on collecting banknotes. One forum post (on collecting pre-Euro - like on Numista) & that blurb on collecting warrants enquiries on my identity? Very odd considering I've been a member on many forums & have never been asked to provide such info.
They have provided no clear reason why I needed to provide a scan of my passport (other than citing that it was to prevent suspicious activity) so I decided to deactivate my account.
Random question, but do you think they are trying to collect identities?
Oklahoman
Numista team
Joined: 20-Dec-2015
Posts: 2957
Posted: 28-Jul-2020, 02:15
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Posted: 28-Jul-2020, 02:15
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Sorry that happened. Perhaps their thieving conscience makes them suspect that others are as devious as they are.
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Serial_Number_8
Joined: 2-May-2020
Posts: 1145
Posted: 28-Jul-2020, 02:19
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Posted: 28-Jul-2020, 02:19
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Quote: "CoinCollector1243"
Quote: "Serial_Number_8"I have just de-activated my account on Colnect. (feeling kind of right now). As soon as I joined I had an administrator request that I identify myself. I did so & there was no further issue until just recently. Then I got another email stating I needed to provide a scan of my passport (or some other government document) to verify my identity. I replied with the old email (the same admin sent) but he insisted I send a scan of photo ID. I was about to send a copy of my passport (with certain sections redacted) but then had a change of heart since so many members here had negative experiences. I have only made 1 post in their super-silent forum.
In fact I even went so far as to add this small blurb on collecting to their wiki-section on collecting banknotes. One forum post (on collecting pre-Euro - like on Numista) & that blurb on collecting warrants enquiries on my identity? Very odd considering I've been a member on many forums & have never been asked to provide such info.
They have provided no clear reason why I needed to provide a scan of my passport (other than citing that it was to prevent suspicious activity) so I decided to deactivate my account.
Random question, but do you think they are trying to collect identities?
Perhaps... I never thought of that. It just seemed odd as no site has hounded me thus- SO- due to this thread (users observations on ripped off images, -ve experiences, etc) & my problems in the past with online SPAM, pwned accounts, etc., I just thought it wasn't worth the potential risks/aggravations (the cons outweigh the pros of staying loyal to them). I have no idea who the administrator is (little info is revealed about him) so just not worth it. What if it was someone who hacked into the site & is posing as an administrator?
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