How long does it take for a catalog change request to occur?

I submitted a request to add a banknote on February 27th and it is still showing pending. How long does it typically take to approve a request to update the catalog?

Thank you,

Rich

I depends on the referee. Often it goes quickly, within a day or a few days. But sometimes it can take longer, I have about 30 change requests pending since the end of January/ beginning of February.
When it's about a country without a referee it often goes very fast because in that case all the master referees and catalog administrators can validate your request immediately. When the country has a referee they can only do this after x days (when I'm not mistaking x = 7) but often they tend to wait for the referee unless it takes too long.

Okay, thanks for the quick reply. Much appreciated.

What is considered "too long" in the statement above? It has now been almost 2 weeks and still no update. If I have a correction to something in the catalog, there is no urgency to update it. But I asked to add a banknote that is missing from the catalog so I need the catalog updated before I can add it and file it away. My previous experience with catalog updates has been nearly instantaneous but this referee is clearly sleeping on the job. 🤣

Thanks again.

It has taken several months for my change requests to be implemented (on some particular nations--which shall remain nameless). Yes, there is some napping going on, but good news is that it stays open until then, and it will "eventually" be addressed.

Admin could add an algorithm which would calculate an average time for certain country, in which request will be addressed. This time span could be added to the text on page for newly added coins/notes. It could go like this "We thank you for your contribution, but we must reply in same breath, that referees are only human beings and in case of country XY, your request shall be addressed in about 3.14159265359 days."

Well, I had a request dated Nov 2020 for a Salvadorian coin that had stayed intact since the day I requested it. Apparently the referee had not been online since that date too... I just pretend not to see it and continue working on other pages 🙈

Quote: "griff88"​Well, I had a request dated Nov 2020 for a Salvadorian coin that had stayed intact since the day I requested it. Apparently the referee had not been online since that date too... I just pretend not to see it and continue working on other pages 🙈

​Some people say "by the time you get married, it will pass away..."

Without knowing any of the specifics relating to this particular issue, I would like to explain that country and catalogue referees are unpaid volunteers who give up their free time to help improve the catalogue and validate and qualify any modification requests. You may have already discovered that some referees respond quite quickly but there are occasions when real life and personal commitments get in the way and delays in processing catalogue modifications can be experienced. Patience is a virtue ...

I guess users would be happier, if search results would show also coins/notes added by them personally and that are still in status "pending". Any objections?
LP

I submitted a coin for St Helena on 9th January and it got approved on 9th March....some referees are more on it than others! I think it would be useful for admin to change up some referees if they want the catalogue to continue to expand.

If life gets in the way step down or ask for help, like a co-ref. You can always reapply or do the work on your own pace as a member.
One or two weeks should be max. otherwise at leat tell the contributors that it will take longer and preferably how long.
In the case where a ref is sadly unable to do the former we might need a time limit to be able to search for a new referee in a timely manner and not let the position vacant for half a year and more.
My two cents.

I had to stop adding banknotes to Numista. It wasn't because my requests took too long to be approved but more b/c there would be some minor mistake a Ref saw & they would ask questions about 1 of my submissions that either indicated a lack of experience with currency, or just that they were too overwhelmed with submissions (oversight). Either way, doesn't really help.

I don't know which- but after a while of seeing one's submissions bounce back (put on hold), one just figures it's not worth the time/effort to submit. Each submission took considerable time to do. Some refs were good enough to email for explicit instructions & to seek a deeper understanding of some of the issues they had & I felt that was appropriate. I spent a great deal of time providing extra context (extra emails backed with references from my catalogues & educating these few refs). But that takes a lot of time & others were defensive & reluctant to open communication (why they felt an entry was incorrect). After collecting for 4 decades this type of defensiveness/tone (& all the time it requires to back up a simple entry)- it gets pretty discouraging.

That & a few suggestions I made here on this or the banknote catalogue thread (like how a moderator could fix this incorrect entry for French 50 Francs & the reply was that I should write another request (fill in the correct info) & "fix it myself" with another request?

Quote: "RichieMac69"​But I asked to add a banknote that is missing from the catalog so I need the catalog updated before I can add it and file it away.

​That's not really necessary. If you make a new addition you can already add that addition immediately. You don't have to wait till it's effectively approved. I've quickly made a fictive request (and deleted it afterwards) to show as example:



And you see, if you check your coins, your new addition will be there, even if the request isn't approved yet:

And this is something that shouldn't be possible.
I had the problem multiple times that people made mistakes with dates and a ref can't edit years that somebody owns already so you have to go out your way and ask a catalog admin and something that would take seconds takes hours or even days.
Not so often and now a bit diffused because you can't see unpublished entries from the outside internet anymore ... people make bogus coin pages put there coin in then delete the creation requests and the coin is in the database circumventing the verification process.

Quote: "Idolenz"​I had the problem multiple times that people made mistakes with dates and a ref can't edit years that somebody owns already so you have to go out your way and ask a catalog admin and something that would take seconds takes hours or even days.

​A new date has to be approved by a referee/master referee/catalog administrator before it appears in our catalog. So one of them made a mistake too by approving a wrong date, right? If they didn't make a mistake too a correction wasn't needed.

No, if you create a new page you also create new lines at (least one) and if you put your coin in a non published coin page year line with an error then it is locked to edits and I can not simply correct that.

My mistake, you're right. If you add new year lines in a change request, every year line separately shows up as a request and has to be approved/rejected. But for a new addition all year lines will be accepted at once when you approve the addition.
But when you see one (or more) of the dates is wrong, you can ask for a correction before approving the addition, right?

Yes, you are right but because I'd like to deal with simple requests in one go most of the time it's much more time efficient to simply edit the request directly so I hardly ever use the send back option. I only use it when the page is a stump and the creator could have clearly done much more without breaking a sweat.
But yeah if I think the creator answers relatively quick this should be a viable option.

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There are many referees who have multiple countries assigned and they use to take more than a month to confirm a new coin. This kind of delays are generating many problems such as duplications with the new coins requests. The solution could be to open new co-referees vacancies in all these countries informing into the forum about these new “jobs”
New co-referees will be able very useful to help current Referees and also to confirm a new piece/update a coin faster. There are many qualified Numista users who are willing to help. Just they need an oportunity too.

It's a fact: there are always more beneficiary users than unselfish volunteers.

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I also have the feeling that some requests just slip through the system without getting worked on. I added a picture to a coin 2 weeks ago. Since then, I added other pictures and whole coin entries to this country (same currency and time period). Every request got worked on after a short time, except this added picture 2 weeks ago. I don't get why.