Buongiorno,
ho una moneta Francese da 1 Franco del 1977 Seminatrice con errore di conio, sul lato della Seminatrice per la lunghezza della scritta "REPUBLIQUE FRANCAISE" si nota un incisione lungo tutta la circonferenza a circa 1,5 mm dal bordo esterno in costante radiale, si nota benissimo che l'incisione è stata di macchina durante la coniatura.
Qualcuno sa dirci se esiste una moneta come questa?
Although your pictures are not very clear, I'm not convinced that this was done while striking the coin. From what I see now, I'd go with PMD, but if you provide bigger and clearer pictures I might change my mind
Buonasera,
non penso che siano rovinate per un flipper o cabine telefoniche per vari motivi:
- la collezione di monete è di mio padre che è mancato 7 anni fa e io ho 65 anni provate a capire quanti anni poteva avere mio padre e non penso che andava a giocare o a telefonare
- la moneta da 1 franco si nota che l'incisione è per tutta la circonferenza, solo sul lato della Seminatrice, saltando alcune lettere che non sono state danneggiate come anche la testa della Seminatrice (strano)
- la moneta da 5 franchi si nota che l'incisione è su tutte e 2 i lati in modo quasi uguale e più verso il bordo a differenza da quella da 1 Franco che è distante dal bordo di 1,5 mm
Ho dei buddi che un Flipper o cabine telefoniche possano incidere delle monete in modo così preciso, almeno qui in Italia non le abbiamo mai notate e non penso che ci siano
You don't have to apologize for that one time post in a different language. It wasn't personal. Nor for you Luca (I understand it's something natural when someone keeps posting in your own language you feel the urge to reply in that language). It's even not personal towards the original poster, especially since it was his first day, and because he is certainly not the only one who posts in his own language. The problem is, when we see there's a new post and we're going to check it to come to the conclusion that we can't understand the message because of the foreign language, we'll stop checking new posts if this keeps going on.
And of course, I can use Google Translate to understand the post, but the problem is most members have to do that if they want to know what the post is about while the OP only has to do it ONCE and everybody can understand his post.
You are right Essor Prof I apologize to everyone but being new I did not know the rules, now that I know I will behave differently
I also apologize if my English is not perfect
Being a designer of mechanical systems, I know very well the systems used for video games from bars and telephone booths, I can guarantee you that there is no system for gripping coins with rotary rubbing.
The coins descend by gravity on a channel where there is a diffuse or optical sensor for coin recognition for which the only rubbing is through the channel and the coin with possible linear and non-rotary lines
Thank you. I apologize too, apparently I didn't pay attention this was only your first day here on Numista, so you deserved a better welcome.
Don't worry about your English, it doesn't have to be perfect as long as it's understandable and it's more than that.
Also, and especially in the "coin identifications and valuations" section when you need help, you'll reach much more members if you use a language we all understand (with or without Google Translate) so it's in your own benefit too to write in English.
Good morning, now whoever ruins the coins is a crimping machine but I am not convinced because as I wrote, I am a professional and CE certifier for industrial machines and plants, if there was such a machine that ruins the coins it would not be CE certified and could not circulate and be sold on the European market