½ Penny - Victoria 2nd portrait [solved]

N#872

I just saw a strange thing in the year lines: LCW as mint mark? But LCW is not a mint mark, it is the initials of the engraver: Leonard Charles Wyon!

How is it possible to use a mint mark in a year line not defined in the section “Mint”?

Can anybody explain, I don't know, if this is a common thing or not, but it's bizarre. 

Sjoelund

How is it possible to use a mint mark in a year line not defined in the section “Mint”?

 

Can anybody explain, I don't know, if this is a common thing or not, but it's bizarre. 

Mint letter field is free text. You can add Mickey Mouse there if you want.  There's probably many more similar ones.

You can submit a CR deleting it from Mint and adding it to year line comments.

If you ask how it possible, you just type it in … simple as that.

But yes, this field is often misused, they should be mentioned as ‘engraver initials present’ or something similar in the year line comments.

Idolenz

If you ask how it possible, you just type it in … simple as that.

But yes, this field is often misused, they should be mentioned as ‘engraver initials present’ or something similar in the year line comments.

So there is no check between the two? 

I would have thought, that would be easy to make, check the mint mark field in the year line field against the possible mints given in the mint section. Maybe it's too easy to interest anybody?

Mint mark (letters) are not listed in the Mint section. I could use SF for US San Francisco if I wanted to.

I've just made the CR, but I wonder where somebody found the LCW. I transferred LCW into the year line, but I'm not sure where LCW appears on the coin?

rsirian1

Mint mark (letters) are not listed in the Mint section. I could use SF for US San Francisco if I wanted to.

Strange, but letters should be allowed, think about the German coins A, D, F, G and J. The US mints over the time. A letter can also be interpreted as a mark!

Sjoelund

Strange, but letters should be allowed, think about the German coins A, D, F, G and J. The US mints over the time. A letter can also be interpreted as a mark!

Mint letter = mint mark.

LCW in on the rock Britannia is sitting on as I recall.

rsirian1

Mint mark (letters) are not listed in the Mint section. I could use SF for US San Francisco if I wanted to.

Strange, but letters should be allowed, think about the German coins A, D, F, G and J. The US mints over the time. A letter can also be interpreted as a mark!

Seen like this, I would have thought there was a control between the fields?

Only thing controlled is the actual mint name.  That comes from a drop down box.  Everything else is free text and nothing has to match.  

rsirian1

Sjoelund

Strange, but letters should be allowed, think about the German coins A, D, F, G and J. The US mints over the time. A letter can also be interpreted as a mark!

Mint letter = mint mark.

 

LCW in on the rock Britannia is sitting on as I recall.

You're right, I'll have to document that in the comments somehow.

The control should be the referee, but sometimes they are the one who enter this "wrong" data.

Or interpret mint mark very liberaly.

Here you go.  © PCGS

Thanks, I'm just doing a Rhodesia double strike 1 cent 1973 coin…. afterwards the LCM will be at it.

Fix (1861(

Really should be km748.2

Maybe say 1862 is same.

Here's the PCGS obverse if you want to use it

Applied, thanks

I see this was solved, right?

Apart from heading of graphic which says ‘LCM’.

Sjoelund

Thank you, your modification request has been validated 🙂