Correcting Russian and Soviet Currencies (Link)

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This message aims at: requesting the creation or the modification of a currency or denomination in the catalogue

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As it affects the coins too, please see here a new attempt to finally get the Russian and Soviet currencies correct.

Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.

Numismatics is normally about the way coin or note looks and not about its exchange rate at the time of circulation.

 

“First ruble until 1922” ignores changes in 1704, 1718, 1797, 1886, 1897. And those are just most obvious dates with pre Peter I rubles crying in the corner.

I'm more surprised that there is no info about 1993 reform and the 1991 one (when the currency of one country was changed to a currency of another country) was fictitious

My personal list of scammers from Numista: erniemix, yvain, CassTaylor

tokul

Numismatics is normally about the way coin or note looks and not about its exchange rate at the time of circulation.

 

“First ruble until 1922” ignores changes in 1704, 1718, 1797, 1886, 1897. And those are just most obvious dates with pre Peter I rubles crying in the corner.

There were entirely new ruble created six times in the twentieth century, plus the chervonets. The earlier reforms you mention affected the exchange rate of the ruble with other countries or changed the subdivision (the latter should certainly not be ignored). The reforms I mentioned replaced one ruble with another at a rate other than parity. We have a field for the currency precisely to record this information.

 

I'm more surprised that there is no info about 1993 reform and the 1991 one (when the currency of one country was changed to a currency of another country) was fictitious

In what way did the currency change in 1991 or 1993? Of course the country changed, as I described, but the currency remained the same.

Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.

ceh

 

I'm more surprised that there is no info about 1993 reform and the 1991 one (when the currency of one country was changed to a currency of another country) was fictitious

In what way did the currency change in 1991 or 1993? Of course the country changed, as I described, but the currency remained the same.

Any idiot still accepting SUR as legal tender in 1993 would deserve what he would get.

 

/s

We had thirteen coups, one self coup and bunch of counter coups. Five million famine survivors (including current czar) had to leave city they were living in twice.

s/

 

Every breakaway state was replacing SUR with own currency with no legal obligation to destroy those notes. Accepting soviet ruble in 1993 would be insane.

 

Just cause 1 SUR is exchanged to 1 ruble of Russian federation does not make it same currency.

I'm not sure I entirely understand the last post but clearly the last Soviet ruble / first Russian Federation ruble underwent severe inflation. That doesn't mean that, at the point that the USSR ceased to exist, there was a currency reform. By 1993, the old notes had ceased to circulate, that's all.

Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
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