My non-numismatic addition, something older than any coin...

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Since it isn't a coin, I am making a thread of it's own.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present you the 450 million years trilobite I bought at the weekend:

 

       

 

There was an artisanship fair at the weekend that presented local and foreign exhibitors.

Some were selling clothes, others statues and decorations, others toys, others souvenirs of their home countries. Some were selling minerals and gems, and one had a few fossils too.

 

I'm not much into collecting them (they're way more expensive than coins), but since there was one of these fossil critters for sale in my town with a bearable price, I decided to pick it.

I also bought a beautiful wooden elephant from India on this fair.

 

 

Getting an animal fossil is nice, but it's nicer when you know what animal is, so here comes the identification:

 

Phylum       Artropoda

Class            Trilobita

Order           Phacopida

Family         Calymenidae

Genus         Flexicalymene

Species      Flexicalymene ouzregui

 

Period         Late Ordovician, Katian Stage, 453 to 445 million years ago.

 

Procedence Ktaoua Formation, Anti-Atlas Mountains, Morocco

 

Measurements

Length     8,5 cm

Width           5 cm

Height      2,5 cm

 

 

I hope you enjoy this post, I don't know how many people here are into fossils and prehistoric animals.

Sweet pickup! I had one just like it growing up

 

A good part of my early childhood was dinosaurs and all sorts of prehistoric animals and critters, so it’s super cool to see that posted here!

 

How much did you pay for this one? Pick anything else up while you were there besides the elephant?

I paid the equivalent of almost US$ 70. It's a bit expensive (this species in particular is common and less expensive in specialised online shops), but I will not complain since I had the chance of buying it in person on my city.

 

Besides the wooden elephant, just some Portuguese pastries.

There were two sellers from Egypt with papyruses and other souvenirs, but this year I picked none, already have various.

Giobruno

Since it isn't a coin, I am making a thread of it's own.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present you the 450 million years trilobite I bought at the weekend:

 

       

 

There was an artisanship fair at the weekend that presented local and foreign exhibitors.

Some were selling clothes, others statues and decorations, others toys, others souvenirs of their home countries. Some were selling minerals and gems, and one had a few fossils too.

 

I'm not much into collecting them (they're way more expensive than coins), but since there was one of these fossil critters for sale in my town with a bearable price, I decided to pick it.

I also bought a beautiful wooden elephant from India on this fair.

 

 

Getting an animal fossil is nice, but it's nicer when you know what animal is, so here comes the identification:

 

Phylum       Artropoda

Class            Trilobita

Order           Phacopida

Family         Calymenidae

Genus         Flexicalymene

Species      Flexicalymene ouzregui

 

Period         Late Ordovician, Katian Stage, 453 to 445 million years ago.

 

Procedence Ktaoua Formation, Anti-Atlas Mountains, Morocco

 

Measurements

Length     8,5 cm

Width           5 cm

Height      2,5 cm

 

 

I hope you enjoy this post, I don't know how many people here are into fossils and prehistoric animals.

 

 

 

Absolutely beautiful specimen you have there! All the better you were able to identify the exact species and time period.

Regards,
IM94

IM94

 

Absolutely beautiful specimen you have there! All the better you were able to identify the exact species and time period.

Thank you!

 

To be honest, I had luck with the ID.

I knew beforehand from the seller that it was from Morocco, so I just needed to type “Morocco trilobite” on Google. And when I did it, various specimens from online shops appeared, I just had to pay attention and find the type that matches mine. Then it was just searching more data about the species.

 

And this species is common enough to appear in many shops.

Guys, guys, guys!!! (Rushing into the room like Abby in NCIS)

 

Check out this news published today:

https://www.monash.edu/science/news-events/news/current/earth-may-have-had-a-ring-system-466-million-years-ago

 

Direct link to the article:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0012821X24004230

 

It can mean that when my trilobite was alive there was a ring in our sky!!!

 

Imagining together the continent configuration of the time and the proposed ring system, the resulting image of the planet looks like you're looking at somewhere from Star Wars. It's crazy to think that this planet was our Earth but long ago.

 

 

 

Ah, how did I heard about this, you ask.

I've saw a paleontology artwork online showing the ring, and the post's author mentioned the new paper. I went “wait whaaat??” and had to look immediately on Google if it was a real story. And that news release was the first result, the paper being the second (I typed “ordovician earth ring”).

I think that this story can make some headlines in the next days.

Well guys, I did it again, bought another trilobite.

 

I wanted to go to a gemstone store in another city, but with all these rainy weekends I gave up and ordered one online.

 

And here it is:

     

 

And not only it arrived in one piece today, but the package also arrived with a bonus inside:

     

 

 

Trilobite ID data:

 

Phylum            Artropoda

Class                 Trilobita

Order                Phacopida

Suborder        Phacopina

Superfamily  Acastoidea

Family              Acastidea

Subfamily      Asteropyginae

Genus              Hollardops

Species           Hollardops mesocristata

 

Period           Early Devonian, upper Emsian Stage, 402 to 393 million years ago.

 

Procedence  Anti-Atlas Mountains, Morocco

 

Measurements

Length        7 cm

Width          4 cm

Height        1 cm

 

 

Teeth ID data:

 

Phylum       Chordata

Class            Reptilia

Order           Squamata

Clade           Mosasauria

Family         Mosasauridae

Genus         Mosasauridae indeterminate, possibly Prognathodon

 

Period        Late Cretaceous, Turonian to Maastrichtian, 94 to 66 million years ago.

 

Procedence Morocco

 

Measurements

Length      3 cm  (broken one 2 cm)

Width        varies (1 to 3 cm)

 

Edit: it was labeled as indeterminate mosasaur where I bought it, but many foreign sites are assigning these teeth to the genus Prognathodon, Late Maastrichtian Age (~70 M.A.), from the phosphate mines of the Ouled Abdoun Basin near Khouribga, Morocco.

Nice fossils.

Here is an aquamarine barrel crystal that I found in my creek after a huge flood!  2 ½” or 6 cm
 How cool is that! 

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The next day I found this arrow head and Native American pottery in my same creek. So although the flood cause huge erosion. It did throw up these pieces.

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Fascinating stuff all of this — the fossils, minerals, artefacts…

 

I have a crystal that is amost identical to yours, redsmithstudios. I also have a few fossils, including very small trilobites) and other minerals which I should photograph (once I organize everything better).

 

I have a few Roman artefacts as well such as a small piece of 3rd-4th-century black mosaic floor. It had been thrown in the garbage (!!) so I rescued it.

 

I think I have three trilobites — that's a ninelobite alltogether (🤦).

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Thank you, you two.

 

It's always fascinating when you get one in your own hands, it's a different feeling compared to seeing one in a museum.

And getting a fossil on hand is different than getting an ancient coin, it's not just history of mankind but of the whole world.

 

 

I've just remembered, once a while ago Quant-Geek posted here not a mere pottery artifact but an entire mesopotamian cuneiform clay tablet. That was incredible, of another level. 

To give a sense of the time span, let's take the age of the trilobite, 450,000,000 years, and the age of the Roman Empire at about 2000 years. Now, let's imagine these two numbers are seconds which we then convert into years to get the same proportions, but in easier-to-grasp time spans:

 

  • 450,000,000 seconds would be 14 years + 3 months 
  • 2000 seconds would be 33 minutes + 20 seconds

 

Basically, if the trilobite had lived in November 2023, the Roman Empire would have happened between 2 and 3 minutes ago.

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Camerinvs

To give a sense of the time span, let's take the age of the trilobite, 450,000,000 years, and the age of the Roman Empire at about 2000 years. Now, let's imagine these two numbers are seconds which we then convert into years to get the same proportions, but in easier-to-grasp time spans:

 

  • 450,000,000 seconds would be 14 years + 3 months 
  • 2000 seconds would be 33 minutes + 20 seconds

 

Basically, if the trilobite had lived in November 2023, the Roman Empire would have happened between 2 and 3 minutes ago.

 

That math is new to me. And very amazing, thanks for showing it.

 

The one I heard is that comparation of the history of the planet within a 24-hour clock, where the rise of human species happened only after 23:59 and rise of human civilization only one or two seconds before midnight.

I really forgot the exact timings, it was something like complex life arose only after 21:00 or 22:00, dinosaurs ruled only for a brief period after the 23:00… Anyways, almost 90% of the history of Earth is composed of the Archean and Proterozoic eons where only bacteria lived back there.

 Well i have this fossil. I have to say the story with this one. Me and my grandson were out looking for something for show a tell. He was 3 or 4 grade, he is 25 now.  Well it was a big hit with the kids. Not with the teacher his mom or my wife. They found no humor in it. Now it a good memory me and my grandson have. I will have to pass it and paperwork to him. Sorry that was very bad humor.

Well i can still say i have the oldest dung on my block

It is, what it is, or is it.

Great pieces, all of you! 

Although I now live in a mineral-poor country, I got hooked to these beautiful, colorful rocks at the age of 6. 

Here are a few boxes with my riches:

You have a nice collection there Dejan.

 

I don't have any of these big quartz crystals, but when I see them in artisanship fairs they always remember me the crystals from Superman's Fortress of Solitude.

 

Do you have any data on these fossil seashells?

 

 

 

 

Back at the beginning of this thread, I've posted my first trilobite, and at the following week that article theorizing a ring in our planet (coincidentally on the period the trilobite comes from) was released.

And, yesterday, I've found an online artwork, that I want to share here:

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/6Ldy1O

 

The guy made such an awesome work with that maps, it looks like the real thing.

It's a totally alien world but it's our homeworld…

Everything there looks so alien to us, the land configuration, the animals, the lack of plants… And now there's the ring as cherry top.

 

 

I've found my home region on that map, and it's exactly the opposite of today: It is in the middle of a mountain range, far from the sea. And the whole region is nearly upside down compared to today's South America.

But we still have that mountains. Whats remains of them forms a series of ridges along the Brazilian coast.

Giobruno

Do you have any data on these fossil seashells?

Well, I'm certainly not an expert on fossils. The closest I came about these shells (second row) is they're Jurassic trigoniid bivalves. There are quite a few in the family, and I cannot really distinguish between them.

What is interesting is the way they (other small sea-fossils as well) are laid in the sediments: first of all, they were all live (closed) at the moment of catastrophe and concentrated in narrow strips, “sorted” by size. Probable explanation is that this wasn't their habitat but were brought there by a (tsunami?) wave from far away. This, as well as some other findings, makes the fall of asteroid off current Madagascar quite a viable theory. 

Here is something crazy that y’all will be able to appreciate! Today I found this stigmaria fossil in the river-stone at a job site.  Just happened to see it in this pile of common stone!

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redsmithstudios

Here is something crazy that y’all will be able to appreciate! Today I found this stigmaria fossil in the river-stone at a job site.  Just happened to see it in this pile of common stone!

Something similar, probably fossilized coral though, I found in Crimea:

Yes, that is coral. But still very cool! Where in crime media did you find it? Were you looking for fossils?

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Yes, that is coral. But still very cool! Where in crime media did you find it? Were you looking for fossils?

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Visiting Crimea, not specifically looking for fossils, but trekking through the hills there fossils seem to find you 😜

Here are two more  fossils: 

first group (~2cm each) are spines of Eucidaris Strobilata (sea urchin, 50-60 million years old)

The second one looks like skin of some fish but I couldn't find a match:

Very cool, did you go to a certain place for these, or were you just searching in the random dirt?

 

 There are certain beaches on the gulf of Mexico that are better for fossils. When I was a kid and I visited my grandfather, I found many sharks teethe and mammal teeth, including the Giant Beaver also camel and horse teeth, a large vertebrate, and part of a deer skull with the antler. This was in the area where they found the saber-tooth skulls.  Good times!

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redsmithstudios

Very cool, did you go to a certain place for these, or were you just searching in the random dirt?

I never went specifically searching for fossils (or minerals). Being often in nature I just pay attention at what I step onto 😉

These last few things I published were all from my trip to Crimea a few years back (specifically hills around Novi Svit - “New World”). 

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