Add coin/banknote in name of types “Contemporary counterfeits” and “Patterns”

This subject was mention (for contemporary counterfeits) in other suggestion https://en.numista.com/forum/topic134430.html that request the division of the contemporary counterfeits in coins and banknotes. Actually it has already been done but both types had the same name and gave rise to confusion.

With the new type classification https://en.numista.com/forum/topic144308.html the problem persists, and, also, the other type categories below coin and banknote have the surname “coin” or “banknote” except the contemporary counterfeits. The same happens in case of patters (we have “Banknote patterns and trials” for banknotes, and just “Patterns” for coins).

My suggestion is renamed these three types:

• Coins
  • Standard circulation coins
  • Circulating commemorative coins
  • Non-circulating coins
  • Collector coins
  • Emergency coinage
  • Local coins
  • Patterns → Coin patterns
  • Contemporary counterfeits → Contemporary counterfeit coins
  • Proto-coins
• Banknotes
  • Standard circulation banknotes
  • Circulating commemorative banknotes
  • Non-circulating banknotes
  • Local banknotes
  • Emergency banknotes
  • Non-issued banknotes
  • Banknote patterns and trials
  • Contemporary counterfeits → Contemporary counterfeit banknotes
  • ATM test note

Sounds like busy work for somebody. People really choose Contemporary counterfeit under the coin heading when they're trying to search for contemporary counterfeit banknotes?

Id like the little i icon to give information about each of these items so people know what a proto vs pattern is….

Try Contemporary Circulating Counterfeits. A CCC (Contemporary Circulating Counterfeit) is a coin that was manufactured during the same era as the genuine coin it imitates and was intended to pass in everyday commerce. Unlike modern replicas or collector fakes, CCCs were made to circulate side by side with official issues, often filling gaps in supply when legitimate coinage was scarce.

Key Points in the Definition

Contemporary: Produced at or near the time the genuine coin was in use (e.g., 18th–19th century counterfeits of Spanish colonial 8 Reales).

Circulating: Actively used in trade and daily transactions, not just made as fantasy pieces or later reproductions.

Counterfeit: Designed to imitate official coinage closely enough to deceive merchants and the public, though often with diagnostic differences in alloy, weight, die style, or edge.

Collectors and researchers value CCCs today because they reveal the economic pressures, technological limits, and trade realities of their time. Far from being dismissed as “fakes,” they are studied as authentic artifacts of monetary history, showing how communities adapted when official coinage was insufficient or inaccessible.

You are suggesting CCCC and CCCB?  Might be confused with CCCP.  😆

CCC 

Then we'd be right where we started, not distinguishing coins (C) from banknotes (B). Not that I agree we need to, as my previous post states.

The correct term is contemporary circulating counterfeits not contemporary counterfeits.

colonialjohn

Contemporary: Produced at or near the time the genuine coin was in use (e.g., 18th–19th century counterfeits of Spanish colonial 8 Reales).

Counterfeit: Designed to imitate official coinage closely enough to deceive merchants and the public, though often with diagnostic differences in alloy, weight, die style, or edge.

Some types of Numista have no description, including contemporary counterfeits (coins and banknotes) and banknote replicas, which causes confusion among users unfamiliar with these topics.

I suggested adding description to all types a few months ago: https://en.numista.com/forum/topic166093.html

colonialjohn

The correct term is contemporary circulating counterfeits not contemporary counterfeits.

Are there contemporary counterfeits that didn't circulate?  What would you call those? Contemporary Non-circulating Counterfeits?