Coin Identification Post 4 [solved]

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The last couple of coins in the batch. (see post one for further information)

Grateful thanks to anybody who has tried to help it is much appreciated.

 

Coin 13

14.53mm across, 2.76mm wide and weight 3.36gms

 

Coin 14

19.95mm across at widest point, 8.65mm thick this is another coin with what I can only think to describe as “chopped” sides weight is 40.645gms

Only one coin per posting, please!

 

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Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

First coin is a Bull and Horseman jital

There are too many, but the legend is readable above the bull in the first image.

 

Second coin is Mughal Empire, Narnol mint, maybe same type as this one:

N#50832

I agree with Sjoelund's reminder to follow the posting guidelines for coin ID requests. 

 

I also see that Geison beat me by two minutes to the ID of coin #13. 

 

Having said that, I will expand a little bit and give some possible resources. Coin #13 is an example of the famous “bull & horseman” billon jital from northern historical India (including parts of Pakistan and Afghanistan). The three dots in that arrangement in the second photo are characteristic of the rump of the horse on these coins. 

 

Millions of these were made, generally between 900-1300 AD (mostly 1200-1300 AD), by numerous rulers, in dozens of varieties. Sometimes it can be difficult to determine the variety, but maybe some of our members can help, and with the coin in hand you may be able to find a match in one of the references. Here are a few good sources of information.
 
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/bh.html
 
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=267786
 
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?mode=simplifie&p=1&l=&r=bull+horseman+jital&e=&d=&ru=&i=&ca=3&no=&se=&v=&m=&a=&t=&dg=&w=&u=&f=&g=&c=&wi=&sw=&tb=y&tc=y&tn=y&tp=y&tt=y&cat=y&ct=coin

 
Robert Tye’s book Jitals is also a great resource. The illustration pages are available as a free .pdf download (with registration) from https://www.academia.edu/356700/Jitals

Apologies for breaking forum rules on the postings just thought fourteen posts would be spamming the forum to bits @Seeker55 and @Sjoelund was trying to be helpful but failed.  

 

Many thanks to all for assistance in narrowing down the fields and for identifications. I have tried several apps, visual search via photo systems and come up with nothing but pages and pages of possibilities with no zero in matches. The difficulties for me not being able to read them and not knowing which way is the top or bottom of the coin have tried numerous apps and searches and come up with nothing but a headache for the last few weeks. Trying to figure out even what era has been an inability.

Status changed to Solved (DizzyBlue, 9 Feb 2025, 06:41)

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