Quote: Dr. MathWell, in Oz there's a fantastic wizard who supposedly grants wishes. Never been, that's just what I heard.
Aha dude you're hilarious, as always.
Well here in SoCal it's pretty quiet, although recently there have been a few shootings, most notably in Orange County, where I live. I'm thinking that gun violence in Europe isn't as bad.
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Hopefully it is tighter! We are so loose with gun laws.
You should listen to me if you're interested only in the West Coast of the US. Washington, Oregon, California... we're all the same in the West. But if you want a better idea of living in the US, listen to East Coast Numista members. They don't say dude, man, or bro like many of us in the West, there are little to no Asians there, and they have a much colder climate. In other words, the West Coast is not much like the rest of the US, except some of the very wealthy boat owners in the harbour across the street.
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I want somewhere about 30/35c in summer and no less than 10c for winter. Not like our winters we've been having recently 2 years ago, before I had my treatment or even knew about the arthritis (all I knew was body was knackered).
I was working on a building site outdoors in -14 which doesn't float my boat !
Mark, if you are thinking of visiting America I would advise you not to make any such proclamation in public. The Second Amendment (the Right to keep and bear arms) is contitutionally guaranteed and is not subject to the whims of any son of a bitch dictator or Idi Amin wannabee.
Especially in the South and even more specifically, Texas... they will very likely shoot you or at least socially ostracise you.
I don't know if you remember the effete publisher and chronic mythomaniac Piers Morgan. After fleeing the UK to avoid justice over hacking the voicemail boxes of murder victims and dead soldiers he was hired by CNN where he has been pontificating in most objectionable terms on how Americans need to be disarmed. He of course lives in a gated community protected by armed guards. His condescending and offensive tone have struck a raw nerve with Americans to such a degree that there is a petition on the Whitehouse's website to have the slimy little creep deported. It has several million signatures including mine. This is not a good time for my fellow Brits to be lecturing Americans on the need to surrender to the universally loathed Federal Goverment.
If you are concerned about gun violence (a myth put out by the press) then there is a simpler answer. Buy a bigger gun than the typical home invader carries. Most of the ghetto scum commiting gun related crimes are too busy trying to hold up their ridiculous baggy pants and aiming "dey gatz" sideways to do any real harm. They also like to make a gangsta style speech to impress their homiez before shooting. Plenty of time for a double tap to centre mass and a coup de grace to the head.
I can pick up the phone right now, order a pizza and it will be on my doorstep in 15 minutes. The average response to a 911 call is just over 90 minutes. The police are not there to protect anyone, they are there to call the morgue and fill out the forms for the insurance company.
Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the whole US. It's almost impossible for a law abiding citizen to own a gun, much like in England. Of course the gang bangers have no such problems as they don't buy from gun shops. The result is that more US citizens have died every year in Chicago than the total casualties in Afghanistan. The "gun free" liberal paradise is more dangerous than an active combat zone.
Thieves, rapists, carjackers, home invaders, drug pushers, murderers, muggers, pimps, child molestors and all the other dregs of society are moving in to Chicago knowing the government has made their "occuption" risk free. The career of such people in the South where every home has several guns tends to be much shorter.
Wherever you move to, you will have to adapt to local conditions. I can't speak for Australia but in America this means recognising that this is a violent and lawless society compared with Europe. There is also widespread racial tension. It came as a real culture shock to discover there were a whole lot of people who hated me and given the opportunity would be happy to kill me simply beause I'm white.
It's also a huge country which apart from the two coastlines and the North East is largely empty. Hunting and fishing are a way of life and during hard times the only way to put food on the table of poor families. It's not unusual to find that the nearest law enforcement is several hours away in the more isolated parts.
The Second Amendment however isn't about hunting, or even home protection. It's about citizens having the right and the means to remove a tyrannical regime. Google "Ruby Ridge" or "Waco Massacre" to see what happens when the government considers itself above the law and the constiution.
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New Zealand is a pretty laid back country, we tend to take life a little less seriously and spend plenty of time in the outdoors (fishing, tramping, hunting, camping, boating, etc) I live in Dunedin and I spend plenty of time hunting with friends and usually holiday in the lakes district. You're never more than a couple of hours drive from native bush, beaches, lakes, rivers, or mountains wherever you live in the country.
There are plusses and minuses to every situation though, there is a pretty high unemployment rate at the moment (about 7.5%) and wages tend to be quite a bit lower than those in Australia and the States. But I wouldn't trade it for anything.
Quote: SmartOneKgHopefully it is tighter! We are so loose with gun laws.
Every time there is talk of tightening the gun laws the NRA bleat on about their constitutional right. I don't remember anything in the constitution saying everyone will have the right to bear fully automatic, high powered assault rifles. Personally I don't see any need to own such a weapon.
Over here you need a firearms licence to be able to own a rifle and you need a special licence to be able to own the high powered arms. The vetting process is pretty tough, I've just gone through it recently to get my licence.
I was meaning the assault rifles that fire high caliblre rounds able to pierce body armour. Personally I see no need to have the ability to shoot through flak jackets.
I've got a standard .308 that's good for hunting deer and pigs, anything above that calibre is unnecessary...unless you're planning on hunting elephants.
Quote: neilithicOver here you need a firearms licence to be able to own a rifle and you need a special licence to be able to own the high powered arms.
This should be implemented in the US, so that lunatics can't own guns without a license.
I think the Australian government bought guns from people at one point to eliminate them. They're pretty strict.
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That's the problem, Feinstein and similar socialist reptiles are calling for a ban on assault weapons but haven't defined what one is. Muzzle velocity? High powered light calibre rounds will go right through you but it's the heavier rounds with low FPS which travel slowly through the body, tumbling and turning, fragmenting and destroying critical organs which do the damage.
There is a good case to be made for reducing the killing potential of domestic firearms, but it isn't being made. Feinstein admits that the gameplan is to remove ALL firearms from private ownership.
I'll give mine up when the last Mexican invader is deported, the last gang member is dragged out of the ghetto and Obama orders his armed guards to surrender their weapons. Until that happens I will continue with the assumpton that my life and the lives of my family are just as important as the Obamas.
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It's not reasonable to try to implement a licence system for gun ownership in the States now, there are just far too many guns already in circulation and the gun culture is so ingrained. I read somewhere that there were more gun stores in the States than McDonalds restaurants.
But I see no reason why you can't implement a system where the general public is allowed to purchase hand guns and rifles, but require a special licence with a tough vetting system to purchase any automatic or high calibre guns, or to own more than 1 or 2 guns.
Because nobody trusts the DC regime. They claim it's about protecting the public but all the legislation is aimed at law abiding gun owners. These are NOT the people commiting the crimes. When they have something sensible to say, people might listen.
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I could ask the same. I just don't think that Obama should be blamed for literally everything.
That's another thing. The States love politics, and we're usually divided from state to state. Typically if you live in the city, you're a Democrat, and if you're in the countryside, you're a Republican. It's a divided nation, but it's a great nation too.
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Quote: SmartOneKgI could ask the same. I just don't think that Obama should be blamed for literally everything.
That's another thing. The States love politics, and we're usually divided from state to state. Typically if you live in the city, you're a Democrat, and if you're in the countryside, you're a Republican. It's a divided nation, but it's a great nation too.
You could indeed ask the same and it would be more of this tiresome Rah, Rah, Obama drivel.
Romney isn't the President, Obama is, that's why he is responsible for the legislation issuing from DC not Governor Romney. Is that difficult to understand? If Romney was president and was trying to steal my property I would feel the same way. The Constitution is above party politics.
Thanks for sharing your vast experience of the body politic though.
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Quote: pnightingale...that's why he is responsible for the legislation issuing from DC not Governor Romney.
That's Congress' job, not the president's. Presidents don't write legislation, they either sign it into law or veto it, which can also be overriden by Congress.
What is Oz, by the way? I'm curious to know what they're like, and I know it's not where a wizard lives.
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You have to watch out for those wizards though....I do NOT consider my wish granted when I've asked for you to make me smarter and you stick a whole lot of needles in my head.
I'm gonna have to side with the guns this time around. In fact, it may be time to get around to using them. We need a smarter America, not an unthinking majority.
Quote: Dr. MathI'm gonna have to side with the guns this time around. In fact, it may be time to get around to using them. We need a smarter America, not an unthinking majority.
Quote: sccedaWow, you're really surprised me! I thought no Obama admirer/supporter likes the 2nd Amendment.
Do I oppose oil wars? Yes.
Do I oppose the war on marijuana? Yes.
Do I oppose using religion, which shouldn't be around anyway, as an excuse for something? Yes.
Do I oppose saying things like "Deficits don't matter." like Dick Cheney once did? Yes.
Do I oppose politicians telling women what to do with their bodies? Yes.
Do I oppose blaming every damn bad thing that happens on one person? Yes.
I also oppose the banishment of our second ammendment right. Simply owning a gun does not make you a felon just as having a drink every now and then does not make you an alcoholic. The overwhelming majority of people are good and would probably be able to take down a thief or murderer with decent training.
Also, while the killing of 20 children wasn't ideal, it's what happens sometimes and like Penn Jillette said "...it's an anomaly". It doesn't happen every day but here's a list of things that do:
Death from car crashes.
Death from diseases.
Death from neglect.
Death from drowning.
And of course there are many, many more. People need to make sure their kids have the right car seat and proper medical treatment rather than worrying constantly about how and when the kid will die.
Quote: sccedaWow, you're really surprised me! I thought no Obama admirer/supporter likes the 2nd Amendment.
Do I oppose oil wars? Yes.
Do I oppose the war on marijuana? Yes.
Do I oppose using religion, which shouldn't be around anyway, as an excuse for something? Yes.
Do I oppose saying things like "Deficits don't matter." like Dick Cheney once did? Yes.
Do I oppose politicians telling women what to do with their bodies? Yes.
Do I oppose blaming every damn bad thing that happens on one person? Yes.
I also oppose the banishment of our second ammendment right. Simply owning a gun does not make you a felon just as having a drink every now and then does not make you an alcoholic. The overwhelming majority of people are good and would probably be able to take down a thief or murderer with decent training.
Also, while the killing of 20 children wasn't ideal, it's what happens sometimes and Like Penn Jillette said "...it's an anomaly". It doesn't happen every day but here's a list of things that do:
Death from car crashes.
Death from diseases.
Death from neglect.
Death from drowning.
And of course there are many, many more. People need to make sure their kids have the right car seat and proper medical treatment rather than worrying constantly about how and when the kid will die.
You, my friend, deserve a pat on the back. I can undoubtedly say I have the same views as you do.
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The Right To Bear arms! What A load Of B@&*@~#s, The only people who should carry guns are Army personnel and the Police (where necessary). Just do your maths and look at the countries where this is allowed and the amount of murders now compare them to the countries you're not allowed.
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The 2nd Amendment distinguishes a citizen from a serf, it has nothing to do with who gets to wear sleeveless shirts.
As requested I did the math.
The UK and Australia lead the civilised world in violent crime per capita, both are ranked in the top ten. The US comes in around 240th despite (actually, because of) owning more firearms than the rest of the world combined.
Over a 20 year period violent crime has fallen by more than 50%. During that period we had a ten year ban on automatic weaponss expire in 2004 and despite the predictions of mass violence by the regime, no measurable increase occured, in fact the decline continued. During that same 20 year period gun ownership has increasing in a mirror image of declining crime rates. The conclusion is inescapable.
Where violent crime is still occuring is in the states with the stricter gun laws and in particular in large metros where scumbag politicians have disarmed the law abiding leaving only the ghetto slime with access to firearms. States which have open carry laws enjoy a 26% reduction in violent crime.
Anti gun laws cause crime not prevent it. What is to stop a bunch of heavily armed "urban types" from kicking down my front door, raping, torturing and murdering my family and I..... some fat cop munching on a donut who may or may not show up two hours later? Fear of the justice system where criminals enjoy better food than homeless veterans, color tvs. video games and the best free healthcare? That's the justice system which decided that OJ and Casey Anthony should be free to walk amongst us? No, what deters these bastards is an armed and angry homeowner.
Some enterprising liberal journalist recently published an interactive map of gun owners complete with addresses. It was intended to be some kind of public naming and shaming. What it actually did was to provide criminals with a complete map of homes which DO NOT have guns. The results were predictable to anyone who doesn't live in liberal land with unicorns and rainbows. After a massive public outcry, these airheads hired guards to protect their homes and offices armed with ........ guns!
The reason why gun laws don't reduce gun crime is that it is committed by people who don't use registered guns. The laws proposed are aimed not at the gang bangers from the ghetto, that would be "raycisssst", but the law abiding gun owner. They don't address the glorification of violence by Hollywood, they don't address the no-go areas in every major US city, they don't address the anti-role model of urban culture with it's contempt for anything decent and it's worship of vulgar gangstaz.
Molon Labe.
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I was referring to actual murder crimes and not violet crimes as you will know yourself living in the UK, that even a slap in the face in regarded as a violent crime, a teacher can't even defend himself against a violent child for risk of prosecution, however I do see the point raised, and yes there are major variations from area to area. Also most of the publications are incomplete and not 100% correct. I will also point out that this argument could go on forever. South Africa has one of the highest rates especially shootings which has also dropped since gun laws have been clamped down. But it still doesn't solve the fact that at any time some bastard could just decide he/she has had enough and take out several people including children for no apparent reason. Now if that was my child or family I'm damn sure I would not be content with the present gun laws.
What works in England doesn't mean it will work in the US. I was born in 1956 and can't remember people owning guns so it must have been implemented long ago. Todays societies are much more violent due to mass immigration and the teaching of moral relativism in our schools and the guns are already in the wrong hands, many of them supplied by the Department of Justice to drug cartels. It's nice that you feel you can trust your government, a recent survey in the US found that genital herpes was more popular.
I do remember well the massacre in Hungerford where Michael Ryan was able to move from door to door, town to town, searching out his victims for 13 hours because nobody, not even rthe police were armed. He would have been dead in under a minute in Texas.
The media has completely ignored many instances of would be mass killers who were stopped in their tracks by an armed citizen. Just after the shooting in Colorado another nutjob tried the exact same thing but was shot before he could fire more than a single round. The Colorado shooter dtove past several movie houses which were much nearer, to get to the only one in Aurora which prohibits firearms. Clearly he wasn't deterred by it being a gun free zone. The patrons at the other theatres went home to their familes after the movie, those in the "gun free" theatre were slaughtered.
The DC establishment are lying to us along with their media accomplices. When you consider the possible motives, it's time to be afraid. Lock and load.
A particular tactic is to point to statistics where domestic gun violence decreases follwing gun bans. Well, yeah. they just use hammers, knives or their fists and the rate overall remains the same and the victims are just as dead. The gang bangers of course carry on as normal.
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Quote: tony_k_1965I was referring to actual murder crimes and not violet crimes as you will know yourself living in the UK, that even a slap in the face in regarded as a violent crime, a teacher can't even defend himself against a violent child for risk of prosecution, however I do see the point raised, and yes there are major variations from area to area. Also most of the publications are incomplete and not 100% correct. I will also point out that this argument could go on forever. South Africa has one of the highest rates especially shootings which has also dropped since gun laws have been clamped down. But it still doesn't solve the fact that at anytime some bastard could just decide he/she has had enough and take out several people including children for no apparent reason. Now if that was my child or family I'm damn sure I would not be content with the present gun laws.
Some b*@~#can do exactly same thing while driving his/her vehicle on a highway. Should we restrict the ownership of vehicles then? How about knives? Have you heard about a Chinese guy who came in the school and murdered several kids with a knife? I prefer to meet an armed criminal with my rifle, not with a cell phone trying dial 911 frantically and telling that b*@~#d about the gun-restricting laws. Post moderated by bam777.
I do understand where you're coming from, it's simply my point of view. As for the government I have no trust in them at all, they haven't got the balls to stand up and fight for the people of the UK or rather England & Wales, as the Scottish have found theirs. All it takes is for Brussels to raise a voice and our cowardly Government kneel before them. What makes matters worse is another door will open in January next year for more Europeans to take advantage of the system (which you can't them) and creating more poverty and undoubtedly more violence and overcrowding into already over-populated cities.
Quote: tony_k_1965I do understand where you're coming from, it's simply my point of view. As for the government I have no trust in them at all, they haven't got the balls to stand up and fight for the people of the UK or rather England & Wales, as the Scottish have found theirs. All it takes is for Brussels to raise a voice and our cowardly Government kneel before them. What makes matters worse is another door will open in January next year for more Europeans to take advantage of the system (which you can't them) and creating more poverty and undoubtedly more violence and overcrowding into already over-populated cities.
The worst is yet to come Tony. We already have enough people here and next year we're getting the Bulgarians and Romanians. When is it ever gonna stop? It's like the EU is trying to wipe out native English people or something. Give it 50 years and if we carry on the way we are we will be the minority in our own country. There will be more true British living in Australia than there will be in England in the next 50 years.
Quote: tony_k_1965I do understand where you're coming from, it's simply my point of view. As for the government I have no trust in them at all, they haven't got the balls to stand up and fight for the people of the UK or rather England & Wales, as the Scottish have found theirs. All it takes is for Brussels to raise a voice and our cowardly Government kneel before them. What makes matters worse is another door will open in January next year for more Europeans to take advantage of the system (which you can't them) and creating more poverty and undoubtedly more violence and overcrowding into already over-populated cities.
The worst is yet to come Tony. We already have enough people here and next year we're getting the Bulgarians and Romanians. When is it ever gonna stop? It's like the EU is trying to wipe out native English people or something. Give it 50 years and if we carry on the way we are we will be the minority in our own country. There will be more true British living in Australia than there will be in England in the next 50 years.
It is estimated around 250,000 will come to the UK, that's less jobs and more benefits being paid out. I bet it'll be way more than that, they can also afford to work for less money than we can simply because of the benefits they gain, tax refunds child benefit (even though they're not in this country) and housing benefit plus they get all electrical appliances supplied and free heating and no doubt there are other thing's I/we don't know about. Most of the information has come from East Europeans who now reside here. As I have mentioned earlier who can blame them.
Well since Xenophobia is the dislike or fear of people from other countries, the notion of "not wanting to become a minority in your ouwn country" is pretty much the definition of Xenophobia.
I'm not being funny right but Great Britain consists of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.. I don't know about the others but I know for a fact prescriptions are free in Scotland so why do the Scots get this benefit when we get nothing ? So does that mean Scotland is a subsidiary of England ? It's stuff like this that annoys me when my prescription bill is over £60 a month !
Quote: neilithicWell since Xenophobia is the dislike or fear of people from other countries, the notion of "not wanting to become a minority in your ouwn country" is pretty much the definition of Xenophobia.
No, it's the unreasonable fear or dislike of people from another country. There is nothing wrong or unreasonable about English people wanting to live in England with other English people. Nor is it racist to object to your job being given to an immigrant so the company can meet it's affirmative action quota.
Xenophobia in practical terms is the ethnic cleansing of white Rhodesians by the psychotic thug Mugabe, the unreported torture and murder of thousands of white South African farmers by the ANC, or the targetting of black residents in LA County by Mexican illegals. However as these are not evil white people it's not politically correct to point this out.
I have noticed that those most eager to embrace the nightmare of diversity and multiculturalism are generally those living furthest away from it's effects.
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I've been watching this thread carefully and apart from the swear words it has been an enlightening read.
For me...I share the thoughts on our country losing the plot. I'm not concerned about European citizens that get stuck in and pay tax. I have a cleaner from Poland, I pay her £8 an hour. I know that if I hired an English person it would be a few more quid and that the job would not be done to a satisfactory level. My cleaner works her socks off and does everything that I require and as a result I can relax at the weekend instead of do the house work. It is a luxury that I can afford and I feel pleased to keep someone in my employ that wants to do well in her job and do it to a high standard.
Moving on, I share Mark and Tony's view of frustration knowing that searching for a job isn't easy in this country and when you are skilled it is frustrating to not be in work not be earning money.
But this country has become a hand out country, that is why people come here. We pay people to sit on their fat arses pretending they are looking for a job. We merit apathy. Some people claim that they are depressed and don't have to work.
At my school there is one parent who has been given a house and she is a round tub of lard, never done a day of work in her life, her children are registered as disabled and that brings more money in...it doesn't make sense! That's the bit that is frustrating...I had a next door neighbour: she was depressed, she was on benefits; my wife and I were spending £699 a month just rent: she was paying £0. She would spend most evenings laughing, having baths at 3 am, she bought a shed and many statues for her well maintained garden. She didn't like the sun, complained when we had friends round for a barbeque because she didn't like the smell of meat. Drive a car. She was stuck in a rutt. People complained that she was taking the pee...WHY? Because she was taking the pee. She has since been kicked out of there as part of the benefits clamp down.
You just end up feeling papped on instead of supported for working hard for your nation.
I live in New Zealand, we have Maori, Europeans, Pacific Islanders, Asians. Our particular city has a strong Chinese population and ties to China as many Chinese came here to Otago during the gold rush in the 1860s and stayed after, became prominant businessmen, we have a strong Dutch population. Our city has a Chinese gardens and celebrates Chinese New Years, we have numerous Pacific Island and Maori cultural festivals and my wife is Fijian Indian, I am definitely not removed from the "nightmare of diversity"
I would rather have a whole lot of overseas people come over here who are prepared to work and work hard than the moody New Zealand teenagers who hang around down the street making a nuisance of themselves, are quite happy to live on the benefit, and then whinge that there are too many immigrants in the country.
Thing is Neil as Ben has so well pointed out we have a benefit system which is asking to be played.. Do you know when the Polish came over and took skilled workers jobs on which were at £12 an hour for me at the time they were doing exactly the same job for £8 - not only that but they were claiming that child benefit thing for their children in Poland ! And the best bit is they can claim it a further 2 years after they go home ! Don't get me wrong, I don't mind migrant workers - it's been the way of the world for a long time.. But when they come and under- cut the entire country that's when you get problems. I couldn't get a job for a plumbing company now where I could get £300 a week. That 2 years ago was a terrible wage and now I would graft my little pods off for it !
It's not just the foreigners here though; there are just as many lazy tw@s born and bred here, it's all wrong. I don't see why though someone who has never paid into the system should benefit from the NHS. People plan their child's birth around coming here to save on medical fees. I'm so disgruntled with this country, I want to go somewhere where you are rewarded for your hard work and not laughed at for it.. Only fools and horses work.. You're telling me !
Ben, about your Polish cleaner.. You're right to have her £10 an hour for a cleaner is ridiculous that's a minimum wage job up here £8 an hour for that seems a fair price in my own opinion for a London rate so to speak ! I should move down there and charge £30 and hour "/
Quote: pnightingaleMark, if you are thinking of visiting America I would advise you not to make any such proclamation in public. The Second Amendment (the Right to keep and bear arms) is contitutionally guaranteed and is not subject to the whims of any son of a bitch dictator or Idi Amin wannabee.
Especially in the South and even more specifically, Texas... they will very likely shoot you or at least socially ostracise you.
I don't know if you remember the effete publisher and chronic mythomaniac Piers Morgan. After fleeing the UK to avoid justice over hacking the voicemail boxes of murder victims and dead soldiers he was hired by CNN where he has been pontificating in most objectionable terms on how Americans need to be disarmed. He of course lives in a gated community protected by armed guards. His condescending and offensive tone have struck a raw nerve with Americans to such a degree that there is a petition on the Whitehouse's website to have the slimy little creep deported. It has several million signatures including mine. This is not a good time for my fellow Brits to be lecturing Americans on the need to surrender to the universally loathed Federal Goverment.
If you are concerned about gun violence (a myth put out by the press) then there is a simpler answer. Buy a bigger gun than the typical home invader carries. Most of the ghetto scum commiting gun related crimes are too busy trying to hold up their ridiculous baggy pants and aiming "dey gatz" sideways to do any real harm. They also like to make a gangsta style speech to impress their homiez before shooting. Plenty of time for a double tap to centre mass and a coup de grace to the head.
I can pick up the phone right now, order a pizza and it will be on my doorstep in 15 minutes. The average response to a 911 call is just over 90 minutes. The police are not there to protect anyone, they are there to call the morgue and fill out the forms for the insurance company.
Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the whole US. It's almost impossible for a law abiding citizen to own a gun, much like in England. Of course the gang bangers have no such problems as they don't buy from gun shops. The result is that more US citizens have died every year in Chicago than the total casualties in Afghanistan. The "gun free" liberal paradise is more dangerous than an active combat zone.
Thieves, rapists, carjackers, home invaders, drug pushers, murderers, muggers, pimps, child molestors and all the other dregs of society are moving in to Chicago knowing the government has made their "occuption" risk free. The career of such people in the South where every home has several guns tends to be much shorter.
Wherever you move to, you will have to adapt to local conditions. I can't speak for Australia but in America this means recognising that this is a violent and lawless society compared with Europe. There is also widespread racial tension. It came as a real culture shock to discover there were a whole lot of people who hated me and given the opportunity would be happy to kill me simply beause I'm white.
It's also a huge country which apart from the two coastlines and the North East is largely empty. Hunting and fishing are a way of life and during hard times the only way to put food on the table of poor families. It's not unusual to find that the nearest law enforcement is several hours away in the more isolated parts.
The Second Amendment however isn't about hunting, or even home protection. It's about citizens having the right and the means to remove a tyrannical regime. Google "Ruby Ridge" or "Waco Massacre" to see what happens when the government considers itself above the law and the constiution.
I live south of Chicago in a suburb and I loved every bit of this haha. Unfortunately it's hard to find people who like "coins" out here. Most of the people around me just like selling their dead grandfather's round circular metal shapes to cash for gold. Every once in a while I'll meet an old guy at a flea market selling his coins (most likely so those who inherit them when he is dead don't do what I just described) and those are the cool people to talk to. The lone guys selling coins at racetracks and gun shows are definitely better for the hobbiest than most of the big dealers out here. While all the coin shops are constantly updating their spot prices, it is the people I just mentioned who will GIVE you a commemorative half dollar because they are just happy to talk to you and too lazy to get change. Over all, my spot of Illinois is pretty good. You get the hubbub of Chicago, and the calmness of not being Chicago. All you have to do is ignore all of the horrible things going on in the news, and you can be blissfully ignorant.
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Quote: bam777I've been watching this thread carefully and apart from the swear words it has been an enlightening read.
For me...I share the thoughts on our country losing the plot. I'm not concerned about European citizens that get stuck in and pay tax. I have a cleaner from Poland, I pay her £8 an hour. I know that if I hired an English person it would be a few more quid and that the job would not be done to a satisfactory level. My cleaner works her socks off and does everything that I require and as a result I can relax at the weekend instead of do the house work. It is a luxury that I can afford and I feel pleased to keep someone in my employ that wants to do well in her job and do it to a high standard.
Moving on, I share Mark and Tony's view of frustration knowing that searching for a job isn't easy in this country and when you are skilled it is frustrating to not be in work not be earning money.
But this country has become a hand out country, that is why people come here. We pay people to sit on their fat arses pretending they are looking for a job. We merit apathy. Some people claim that they are depressed and don't have to work.
At my school there is one parent who has been given a house and she is a round tub of lard, never done a day of work in her life, her children are registered as disabled and that brings more money in...it doesn't make sense! That's the bit that is frustrating...I had a next door neighbour: she was depressed, she was on benefits; my wife and I were spending £699 a month just rent: she was paying £0. She would spend most evenings laughing, having baths at 3 am, she bought a shed and many statues for her well maintained garden. She didn't like the sun, complained when we had friends round for a barbeque because she didn't like the smell of meat. Drive a car. She was stuck in a rutt. People complained that she was taking the pee...WHY? Because she was taking the pee. She has since been kicked out of there as part of the benefits clamp down.
You just end up feeling papped on instead of supported for working hard for your nation.
Wow Ben, switch a few key words and you could be one of my American friends. The free world was built on a firm foundation, we got so rich we forgot how to work and now are giving all the wealth to the to a not so firm foundation.
As for the all you guy complaining about the second amendment, I think you were easily duped buy the media, anything the media says more than once is probably someones agenda.
I will point out that the reason people in America have guns is because the heart of man is evil and tyranny can rise in any nation, let your guard down for a second and a guy like Hitler can win the hearts of the people. He used the media the same way our media is doing things.
I thought coin collectors were better students of history, the story goes on and on. History is about to repeat itself. Thankfully you can't take our freedom yet, but I don't know why y'all are so opinionated on our gun rights. There will come a time when those who don't have guns will be the ones needing them.
As for the military and police being the only ones having guns, that the part of history l am talking about.
Taking a break from swapping for a while, but still interested in pre 1799 Spanish coins, I will make time for that!
I agree there is tyranny in everyone but we're living in a much more informed day and age we don't need guns; look at us and the Aussies.. It's in your culture now and that embedded I doubt it'll ever be removed. I fully understand that you may want them for peace of mind but I think people should be vetted before being allowed them, and you shouldn't be able to buy 'em on a street corner. As for saying these school shootings are an anomaly, it's too consistent to be one. The last one of these I can remember happening in the UK was Dunblaine when I was a kid. You can't take guns from everyone just the mentally unstable !
Quote: Mark240590I agree there is tyranny in everyone but we're living in a much more informed day and age we don't need guns; look at us and the Aussies.. It's in your culture now and that embedded I doubt it'll ever be removed. I fully understand that you may want them for peace of mind but I think people should be vetted before being allowed them, and you shouldn't be able to buy 'em on a street corner. As for saying these school shootings are an anomaly, it's too consistent to be one. The last one of these I can remember happening in the UK was Dunblaine when I was a kid. You can't take guns from everyone just the mentally unstable !
But the problem is it's the government who gets to decide who is mentally unstable. In the Soviet Union dissidents who didn't wake up singing with joy every morning in gratitude at living is a worker's paradise were obviously criminally insane and were sent to the gulags. What may start out as a common sense measure to keep guns out of the hands of the disturbed will be twisted and misused by the gun grabbing liberals to include anyone who ever took an anti-depressant.
Anti gun people have a simple option, don't buy a gun. Why liberals and socialists find it acceptable to intrude into other people's lives is a mystery. I don't care much for cell phones and many people are killed and maimed each year by drivers texting or trying to steer with their elbows while dialing. But as cell phones can't be useful in opposing a tryanny they are not up for banning.
If you trust your government than I am pleased that you sleep peacefully at night. As everyone says, it can't happen here! I'm sure the Germans felt the same way in the late 1920's. The US government has been bought and paid for by a cartel headed by the criminal nazi collaborator George Soros and is actively hostile to it's own people. They retain power only by paying massive bribes with the money they steal from taxpayers in the form of Obamaphones, food stamps, free housing and welfare. I trust them as far as I can throw Governor Christie.
Since the Clinton years the US Federal Government has been on a downward spiral of graft, corruption and dishonesty. Anyone who thinks that an elitist regime which has killed thousands of children worldwide wouln't attack it's own citizens is living in a fantasy world. The US government now has the authority to arrest without trial and detain indefinitely anyone they designate as a threat. For the first time in it's 200 year history a US President is claiming the right to have American citizens killed, murdered by drone strikes, without ever facing a jury or even being accused of a crime. President Obama has publically admitted that the White House has a "kill list".
The US government killed more people at Ruby Ridge and Waco than any school shootings. Those killed had committed no crime at all, or at worst a minor misdemeanor worthy of a $100 fine. The US Department of Justice and the racist thug at it's head, Eric Holder were caught smuggling thousands of assault weapons to Mexican drug cartels so that they could point to those gangs having US weapons as a prime reason to abolish the 2nd Amendment! Those same weapons, supplied by our own government, have been used in the murder of hundreds of people, including US border patrol agents. The involvement of the feds was only made public when a couple of whistle blowers leaked the scam. Instead of being prosecuted, Holder remains in his job and is even being put forward as a Supreme Court nominee. A Congressional investigation was refused access to the documents surrounding the scandal and as they started moves to force disclosure, our dictator declared the matter to be classified as Executive Privilidge. Sounds more like a Banana Republic than a modern democracy. Google "Operation Fast and Furious".
The need for an armed citizenry is far greater in 2013 than it was in 1776.
"As the sound of the first round being chambered reached him he suddenly regretted voting to ban the private ownership of guns"
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The five worst mass killings have a common thread.(Hint #1: None of them belonged to the NRA.)
Ft Hood: Registered Democrat, Progressive Liberal
Columbine: Too young to vote; Both families were registered Democrats and Progressive Liberals
Virginia Tech: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff, Registered Democrat, Progressive Liberal
Colorado Theater: Registered Democrat; Staff worker on the Obama campaign; Occupy Wall Street participant; Progressive Liberal
Connecticut School Shooter: Registered Democrat raised in a Progressive Liberal home; hated Christians.
Common thread is that all of these shooters were Progressive Liberal Democrats.
Also, of the worst killings in the last several decades, only one was a female, all the rest were boys, barely men, and none of them had a strong male father or role model in the household. Their role models were rappers, violent action movies, violent comics and violent video games.
Our problem isn't weapons. It's boys without boundaries. Who live in 'progressive' households.
All these people were mentally ill, Progresssive, Liberal Democrats.
Food for thought..........for all you "boys" out there in LaLA land........
Also, did any of you ever think why the 2nd Amendment was written as the 2nd, not the 4th, 5th etc....because without the 2nd Amendment being second the 1st one would be a joke.
Thomas, I look forward to our paths crossing in NC more and more.
I firmly believe that our own Government is behind a lot of the really far out conspiracy theories. They spread outrageous and easily disproven stories so that if their dark deeds are ever uncovered they can just shrug and say "Oh it's just a right wing conspiracy theory, like all the others".
I don't believe it is a coincidence that mass shootings always occur in large number when there is an attempt to repeal the 2nd amendment. Joe Sixpack sitting on his couch watching overpaid felons chasing a ball around is going to think that this only happens in them thar foreign places, not the good ole USA. Wrong Joe, our good ole government already has the blood of hundreds on it's hands with the Fast and Furious scandal. Go back to your Monday night football, nothing to see here.
You forgot the Obama worshipping, anti-gun failed cop Dorner who recently went on a shooting rampage in "gun free" California. Funny how the political connection is covered up by the yellow press who invariably portray the shooters as right wing extremists.
Molon Labe.
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...Also, of the worst killings in the last several decades, only one was a female, all the rest were boys, barely men, and none of them had a strong male father or role model in the household. Their role models were rappers, violent action movies, violent comics and violent video games....
Hated Christians? That's only the most logical thing I've ever heard. He only hated one of the largest cartels in the world. They have priests that molest children as well as a book telling them to never speak of it and to pressure the kids into doing so too. They've killed numerous people over the past 2,000 years for their own agenda. They tell Africans not to use condoms even if it will potentially kill them. They say family is strictly one man, one woman, and x amount of children. No room for extra spouses even though this is completely natural. History shows that men used to have many spouses and now, instead of giving women the freedoms men had, they restricted men to the same rules women had. Religion teaches us that everything natural is a sin and that we must go to god to make ourselves pure again.
On to my next point. A "strong male father or role model" is not a requirement. I've got 1 mother and I seem to be a perfectly sane human being. Also, rappers, violent action movies, violent comics and violent video games have been shown to do nothing to the brain. I've played hours of Call of Duty, watched a few violent movies, and I've listened to some rap in my day and none have made me mentally unstable. It's all most likely due to genetics.
At this point I like to think of the book The Lord of the Flies. Jack had most likely been exposed to very little or no violence and when they hit the island his survival mode kicked in. His survival mode being the natural way he would have acted had he been born in the Stone Age. He would have been an Alpha Male and killed anyone who got in his way. Why is this? Not because of society but because that's what he was programmed to be.
We need to start holding the person accountable and not the environment. Did the environment have something to do with it? Yes. But it was the person that did it.
It's a funny thing that whenever somebody says anything about Christianity or against violent video games or brings up single parent households, some people take offense.
My above post was a reply to Phil's post and dealt with the 2nd Amendment. It also showed a common link between all the killers.....like it or not.
I think there is a big difference between Christians and Religious Freaks. Go ahead and have as many wives or husbands as you want. Nobody stopping you. Who is "They" anyway, who are "They" that put a cap on how many children you can have. Sounds like "HE" hated the largest cartel, and in your mind that makes him OK...I think not.
Glad you don't need a male role model, some kids ain't that lucky.....some men are not fit to be role models.....maybe if these killers had a real mom and dad involved in their lives, maybe one of these nuts wouldn't have done what he did.
"Lord of the Flies" is a Novel....the setting is during a nuclear war......it's not real. OK....hello
These killers had no reason to defend any damn thing they were not attacked, they did the attacking.
That's all I'm going to say on this, also I can't believe I even replied to a kid that missed the point of the whole previous post.....
It's a funny thing that whenever somebody says anything about Christianity or against violent video games or brings up single parent households some people take offense.
Only trying to spread truth, comrade.
Quote: auctionking65My above post was a reply to Phil's post and dealt with the 2nd Amendment. It also showed a common link between all the killers.....like it or not.
I realize this. I would also like to see where your information came from.
Quote: auctionking65I think there is a big difference between Christians and Religious Freaks. Go ahead and have as many wives or husbands as you want. Nobody stopping you. Who is "They" anyway, who are "They" that put a cap on how many children you can have. Sounds like "HE" hated the largest cartel and in your mind that makes him OK...I think not.
I suppose "they" would be the Church, or more specifically the Catholic Church. Tell me, if you think the only way to salvation is by doing what God or the Pope says, why would you even think of questioning it? Sure, you could technically choose to do whatever you want but God would frown upon this and when Judgement Day comes you'll be riding the Hellevator all the way down.
Quote: auctionking65Glad you don't need a male role model, some kids ain't that lucky.....some men are not fit to be role models.....maybe if these killers had a real mom and dad involved in their lives, maybe one of these nuts wouldn't have done what he did.
I suppose we'll never know. I agree that some people are not fit to be role models and that depending on where you're born you can be beaten to death or loved to death. But of course this is not a video game or TV, but real life. This is the kind of thing that leaves scars, not virtual violence.
Quote: auctionking65"Lord of the Flies" is a Novel....the setting is during a nuclear war......it's not real. OK....hello
Why of course it isn't real. But it paints a nice, pretty picture to illustrate the defects of humanity as is, pure, without all of the "contamination" that comes with the later years.
Quote: auctionking65These killers had no reason to defend any damn thing they were not attacked, they did the attacking.
Yes, they did the attacking. They killed innocent people. But why was it that they did those things? Were they playing too many video games, watching too many movies, or reading too much of the Bible? Possibly. They also probably had most of that violence hard wired in their brains just waiting to come out.
Quote: auctionking65That's all I'm going to say on this, also I can't believe I even replied to a kid that missed the point of the whole previous post.....
Oh, I just thought I'd give my two cents on some parts of your post. It wasn't my intention to reply to all of it. I realize that the 2nd Amendment is a very important part of our country and that we may be needng it more than ever in the coming years. With all of the anti-gun propostitions and mass shootings in the last year, something has to be up. We need to put our country back in the hands of the people and keep it there. Perhaps a revolution every 20-40 years as an extra check on the government, like Thomas Jefferson suggested.
Here is the deal, kid.....I said all I'm going to say in this public forum about religion, whether killers are or are not born to kill or if violence on TV or Xbox made them do it or if single parent households are the problem. Neither do I care about a 14/15 year old kids opinion about the 2nd Amendment.....what you need to do is live another 10, 20, 30 years and I bet things will become much clearer or more confused, your choice.
I'm gonna PM you an article and also my phone number, call me or write me and when you get old enough drive up a few miles from SC and visit. We'll shoot some guns, break bread and you can tell me in person what an Neanderthal I am..........now off to bed, young feller......school tomorrow....wouldn't want you to miss out on the wonderful education SC has to offer its young.
"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson
BTW, that is what I live by in my 36 acre Kingdom and I AM the King of my castle.....come take a walk with me
Just wanted to add a little more fuel to the liberal flame........I didn't get enough hate mail, yet...!!!!!!
Oh my, I can see the real fruits of brainwashing liberal propaganda in Dr. Math's rant. Seems like America is already doomed. Speaking about myself, I'd rather die than let "them" confiscate my guns.
Quote: auctionking65BTW, that is what I live by in my 36 acre Kingdom and I AM the King of my castle.....come take a walk with me
You're so lucky, man! I can't shoot because we live in the city, although it's located in the rural area. Moreover, only shotguns are allowed in our area.
I've got the conch! I have the conch! And it's my turn!
Calm down dears! (Michael Winner says from the grave).
This thread is the most volatile; but the most interesting. Like coins there is an interpretation to each side of it. An obverse/ reverse.
Currently, the second amendment stays. It's been under threat, but it stays. Some people don't understand it; some people haven't developed the capacity to comprehend it or the implications on government.
Conspiracy absolutely...riddled everywhere in politics.
I'd appreciate if we made sure we were still on the guidelines here i.e. Forum rules but I want to share with you that you have been very correct in expressing your views and opinions and haven't got heated or aggressive with each other even within a disagreement.
I also think that there is the age gap of development and understanding and way of thinking that no-one can be blamed for that is just where some people are at. Throwing suggestions at them of how life really is will seldom help until they are in the right position to take on board new ideas etc. Any way loving Leonidas, loving the free discussion and there I thought America was the land of the free.
On the conspiracy front, in the American sense, I think of the late Bill Hicks. Hilarious! Go back to bed America!
I won't be drawn into discussing the rights and wrongs of religion as it really serves no purpose. One side will infuriate those who see relgion with all of it's faults as our best road map to leading a decent life. The other side range from those with genuine concerns to those who merely regurgitate whatever they are told at school and will work it out for themselves, one way or another, once they get free of agenda driven influences. This is why almost every country restricts voting to adults.
Here's an interesting quote from the man who inspired a thousand community colleges:
"How to corrupt the West: Corrupt the young. Get them away from religion. Encourage their interest in sex. make them superficial by focusing their attention on sports, sensual entertainments and other trivialities. Always preach true democracy but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible. Encourage government extravagance, destroy its credit. produce fear with rising prices, inflation and general discontent. Encourage disorders and foster a lenient attitude toward disorders. By specious argument cause the breakdown of the old moral virtues: Honesty, sobriety, self-restraint. Cause registration of Firearms (to) leave the population defenseless." - Vladimir Lenin 1921
If you can read this and not be struck by the similarities with post 2008 America then you are truly deserving of neither freedom or security.
Good morning Ben! May I commend your good judgement in letting the discussion continue until the sharp downward turn of religion was introduced.
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Morning, Phil!
Powerful words from Lenin. I see the parallel even though I don't live in America.
The air is rank with fear in the UK. We've just recently had a TV program called UTOPIA. It was all about a conspiracy theory: it was fantastic! (UK viewers I recommend).
You can only await enlightenment for the young!
Quote: bam777We've just recently had a TV program called UTOPIA. It was all about a conspiracy theory: it was fantastic! (UK viewers I recommend).
You can only await enlightenment for the young!
Just watched the 1st episode, very interesting. Thanks for the recommendation.
Tony
So, to be the first person to address OP's question. In the United States of America up to 2013, politics aside. I would have to say that it is the best place to live for anyone who is willing to work. You can start any business and as many businesses as you want and make as much money in those businesses.
You can spend that money wisely or foolishly on anything you want, and some have lost millions only to make it all again and be wiser the second time.
Where I live you can drive 30 minutes the the Appalachian mountains, one of the most bio diverse environments in the world, which for me is fabulous because I study God's creation, I am always learning about the birds, plants and trees. The US gov. has huge tracts of land up there and you can go hiking into it and camp-out in the middle of a quiet forest and see no-one. I love to hike on the Appalachian trail and the mountain river trails, also swimming in the rivers with the trout is great.
Speaking of God's creation, there is FREEDOM of religion, that means I can believe in any God or I can believe the every one who believes there is a God should be put to death.
I own about an acre of land, that is common in the US and when I get more money I will own about 40 acres out in the country, with a creek on it. Like Auction King, it's somewhat common to have land, where as in western Europe, land is so scarce.
Freedom to own guns and freedom to believe they should all be confiscated, and freedom to say "over my dead body" so.... Over my dead body.
But America is not the answer and cannot fix all the problems, and we are back to freedom of religion, only God can fix this broken world.
For me America is a place where I run my own business and hope to see it grow. I don't make much money now, but I have the opportunity to make a fortune.
So back to work for me!
Taking a break from swapping for a while, but still interested in pre 1799 Spanish coins, I will make time for that!
In Australia we got rid of the wizard (Rudd) in 2010 and now have a head witch. Still beats the homophobic, xenophobic opposition leader though.
On the whole, Australia is like NZ, without volcanoes but with marsupials that are native and we are better drivers. Our basic wages are higher than the U.S and N.Z, but the living conditions would be the same on a whole. We are just as multicultural, although we have fewer people of African heritage than the U.S.
The Maori seem to have emigrated here for some reason. And the gun buy back was after the Port Arthur massacre of 1996, as we learn from our mistakes.
Quote: Mark240590If I move to Oz, I am definitely getting a pet croc !
Sorry to burst your bubble, crocks are illegal to own unless you have a special permit. Actually most native animals you need a permit, and some like the orange bellied parrot you will never be able to own.
I must say, the times that I've visited Oz I really liked Melbourne. Sydney and Brisbane not quite so much. Although I was impressed with Sydney's public transport system.
Quote: Mark240590If I move to Oz, I am definitely getting a pet croc !
Sorry to burst your bubble, crocks are illegal to own unless you have a special permit. Actually most native animals you need a permit, and some like the orange bellied parrot you will never be able to own.
It's the same here m8 - the natives need a special permit.
According to my Southern friends and neighbors there are two kinds of Yankees:
"Yankees", who visit briefy then go home. They are tolerated but the days of the carpetbaggers and reconstruction are not forgotten.
Then there are "Damn Yankees". These are the ones who move to the South to escape the decay and squalor they have created in their home states and expect us to adapt to them rather than the other way around.
They look down on us poor ole Southrons as being uneducated bigots, who guzzle beer, drive pick up trucks, love women in Daisy Duke shorts and think the Department of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms sounds more like a perfect weekend than an arm of the Feds. All of which is 100% true of course but we don't need no high faluting Yanquis to be telling us about it.
Life moves at a much slower pace in the South, the people are much more polite even when dealing with Northern metrosexuals. There seems to be a misconception on the part of those from the large northern urban cesspits that snapping your fingers and being rude to our waitresses will mean you get your iced latte before the local peons get their grits and eggs. It doesn't, it just gets you a bunch of southern spit in your food and a key scratch down the side of your nice new Cadillac. Southerners will not be pushed around nor do they allow ladies to be insulted. It's rather like England used to be before the degenerates took over.
Those who move to the South with a willingness to embrace it's culture and it's history will find no better people anywhere in the world. As Thomas (AuctionKing), another European who fell in love with Dixie, will no doubt confirm, apart from a few die hard rebels, once the intial suspicion has worn off you will be welcomed. Southern hospitality isn't just a phrase down here. If you are hungry someone will feed you, if you are cold someone will invite you to their fireside, if you have fallen on hard times they will give you a helping hand. But if you come back next month and you are still hungry, cold and broke then you will be politely told that you need to find a job.
But those who come here and start demanding that we take the Confederate Battle Flag down from our courthouses, rename Nathan Bedford Forrest Memorial Park to the Nelson Mandela Garden of World Peace are soon going to discover they have been messing with the wrong people. There is a lot of anger in the South and as the Feds found out in 1861, pushing the South and it's people too far can be a costly mistake.
Deo Vindice
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I just hope that Southern spirit won't fall to victim to liberal propaganda as I see here up North. By the way, "Minnesota Nice" is also some sort of cultural phenomenon related to Scandinavian heritage. Have you heard about that, Phil?
Quote: pnightingaleThey look down on us poor ole Southrons as being uneducated bigots, who guzzle beer, drive pick up trucks, love women in Daisy Duke shorts and think the Department of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms sounds more like a perfect weekend than an arm of the Feds.
Is there anyone who doesn't like to guzzle beer, drive pickup trucks and love women in Daisy Duke shorts? Sounds pretty damn good to me!
Quote: Mark240590And to us all Americans are Yankees lol
Call some southerners a Yank and they will go fishing with you, you as the bait. Phil has got it pretty well stated, except even the southern spirit is waning in the new age of handouts and entitlement.
In a good ole southern town every person you pass will wave at you and if you car breaks down people will just show up with tools and possibly parts and fix it for you. We do defend women and still hold the door for our lady's, even though that is now frowned upon, but we don't care much for political correct BS anyway.
Taking a break from swapping for a while, but still interested in pre 1799 Spanish coins, I will make time for that!
Quote: Mark240590And to us all Americans are Yankees lol
Call some southerners a Yank and they will go fishing with you, you as the bait. Phil has got it pretty well stated, except even the southern spirit is waning in the new age of handouts and entitlement.
In a good ole southern town every person you pass will wave at you and if you car breaks down people will just show up with tools and possibly parts and fix it for you. We do defend women and still hold the door for our lady's, even though that is now frowned upon, but we don't care much for political correct BS anyway.
I left my wallet on the table in Biscuitville last time we visited the Carolina's. I didn't realise until we got to the Georgia line and stopped to buy cheap cartons of cigarettes. Turned around drove all the way back praying it hadn't been pocketed. It had my permanent resident card, SS card etc. in it along with $200 in cash. I would have been happy to get the wallet back minus the cash as getting replacement documents from the INS is a nightmare because they assume you have sold them to Mexicans.
I need not have worried, it was waiting for me at the counter complete with cash. Whoever handed it in didn't leave a name so I couldn't even buy him a steak dinner.
In most parts of the world that would be the last I saw of my wallet, either the finder would have taken it or the cashier would have slipped it into her purse. North of the Mason Dixie such an event would be a rarity, in the South it's just the norm.
During the same five day trip we hired an apartment in an old farmhouse for which I paid in advance. Not realising this my wife also paid cash on our arrival, the money was returned within the hour. No waiting to see if we realised the mistake. A severe storm took out the power lines for most of the county on the first night, early next morning the farmer's wife arrived with hot coffee, biscuits and gravy which she had driven to the nexy county to buy. She also gave us the keys to the entire farmhouse as the other renters were not coming due to the weather.
There are nice people in the north, our closest friends here are Minnesota transplants. Both die hard liberals but they had the good sense to leave their values behind.
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The majority of England is still like this Phil, I was down Filey this time last year and an old feller came out of the bank and was walking along the street dropping wads of cash ! So I ran over started picking them up shouting of him I had to catch him up there was atleast 500 quid there too... He thought he had put it in his inside pocket but put it down his sleeve. I've done this a few times. Just yesterday this guy turned up at my door with my 2 Tokelau dollars that had been sent through his door mistakenly by postie. Now he could have just kept them and sold em on eBay or something but he drove to my house and delivered em himself which I think is really nice !
I agree with Phil, living in Dixie is about as good as it gets.....if you can embrace the lifestyle. Some people can't and they can expect misery at every turn.
I have cousins in Germany that visit every year for 3 to 4 weeks for the last 20+ years and I ask them all the time...What is it you find so attractive about the South? The answer always is....the people, the weather, the atmosphere, the more relaxed lifestyle we live. These guys/gals been all over the world, and the states for that matter, and are always drawn back to the south.
I do think you have to live here for a while and be open-minded to understand the lifestyle and all it's wonderful benefits.
I hope and pray it stays that way for along time to come........
In America it would have to be somewhere warm for me but not too got although there's alot in Florida to do and that maybe where I would choose to be fair !
What I can't understand is the suggested video for the one you linked to was a whole lot more videos from Bill Mayer....and then 1 video of Allan Donald bowling a cricket ball at Steve Waugh.
