Please help to identify this medieval coin

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12mm, 0,27 gramm. I was looking through on all numista coins from 1000 till 1600, but could not find it. Some Bohemian and German state coins are similar, but I can not find the same coin.

May be Pomerania XVIe century

Referee of south atlantic islands

Thank you very much! Could you recommend any online sites where I can search Pomeranian coins? Here I didn't find this one

No, this coinage is far from my domain of expertise :)

Referee of south atlantic islands

The Saurma reference is sometimes useful for that time period.

https://en.numista.com/literature/volume.php?id=48

https://saurma.info/

It helps to know that Pomerania is Pommern in  German and Pomorze in Polish.  

WCN sells a lot of Pomerania:  wcn.pl.  

 

To build on frenchlover's suggestion, another nearby place that used a griffin is Rostock.

 

If someone could make sense of the lettering, it would get easier 🙂

 

Added:  I am only finding MANIS as pertaining to LeMans which does not strike me as making sense for this coin.

I read it as MAXISH then maybe JN dot D

I tried to ask the AI, with a few steps it said it could be a pfenning from Graz, from 1569. But i still could not find it. Is there anyone who may know that coin?

 Cropped and a few clear letters added 

 

     

   [12mm, 0,27 gramm] 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

Great details. thank you v ery much. I hope someone can identify it.

 Those circular shapes on top left may be numbers - 

such as the end of a date … 6 9 perhaps? 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

I think the date is 1569

 Changed colours 

 

   

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

Any idea what can be this animal?

 Perhaps … a griffin - a lion with wings, and eagle head. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffin 

 Due to what looks like wings on the item. 

    

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

 Which then may make the coin from Pomerania - or not … 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Pomerania 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

 

 

 Which then is similar to this 1669 coin - or not … 

https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/german-states-pomerania-doppel-schilling-km-241-1662-1670-cuid-1163154-duid-1406542 

 

 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

 If not that coin, then maybe another - 

with that  MA  IS  ND  lettering from earlier … 

 

 

 A crude design, so may be earlier, from 1569 - as mentioned in a previous reply. 

 

 An earlier dated [1622] coin on here, with the griffin 

N#129380 

but still wrong lettering. There is 

· Pomerania 

· Pomerania - Stettin 

· Pomerania - Wolgast

 in the German States to choose from - as well as 

· Pomerania - Rügenwalde, Duchy of 

· Pomerania, Swedish dominion of 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

 Perhaps issued under the ruler Warcislaus [Wartislaw] of Pomerania. 

 

    

 With some questions about the lettering. 

1 - A strange M which could be a W instead, possibly. 

2 - First thought to be H or N but damage at the top so also R possible. 

3 - No idea what it is meant to be. 

4 - After the D it could be VX of DVX lettering.  

 Summary - WARISL ? N DVX ??? 69 perhaps? 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

Maybe it is MAX? 

 

Also, I think the workmanship on Pomeranian coins is much better than this.  So, maybe some other place.

A puzzle indeed. The closest I could find is this Weißpfennig which is also uniface and has MAXI and the Bohemian lion:

 

N#76325

You can find a few 1569 examples of that pfennig on acsearch.info, but none of them exactly match the text on Krac’s coin.

 Thanks! I always wondered why this coin was uniface, and so did not 

show any reverse like on those Pomeranian coins. Also the MAXI lettering 

does fit in with the 69 numbers  -  Maximilian II (1564-1576) 

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ruler.php?id=769 

 King of the Romans, King of Hungary, Croatia and Bohemia. 

 

 [Still some lettering currently unreadable] 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

Maybe a contemporary counterfeit?  That would explain the ugly lion, missing crown, bungled legend, etc. compared to these more authentic looking ones:

https://www.ma-shops.com/saenn/item.php?id=55527

https://www.ma-shops.com/saenn/item.php?id=32903

 

(a mis-spelled legend would not by itself give this suspicion, but the whole “fabric” of the coin looks off).

It gets more interesting …

Here is a Silesia coin which is a closer match:  https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4913980

 

The legend is divided by a shield (with the Silesian eagle?) at 6:00 which corresponds to the strange object on the posted coin, after MAXI SE.  The crown is inside the circle, on the lion's head.   But we can still see the large difference in quality, and (still) a mis-spelling of SECVND.

So perhaps it was intended to be a counterfeit of the Silesia coin.  

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