Please if you don't know anything about florins then don't comment such stupidity
Please I would buy a 1000 pieces of this exact date for more than triple what you said
Get some knowledge before saying things out of spite
Let’s break this down from someone who knows nothing about Florins and is apparently saying something out of spite (I am assuming this comment is directed at me because my view isn’t what you want to here, and you have taken offence as such), it is my view not spite, and you asked for my view when you initiated this post. If you believe it is said out of spite then you have problems with your emotions, probably born out of a sense that something you own is worth more than something other people own, this could be described as „delusions of grandeur“ and is often seen in people who are car, antique, coin dealers, etc. or wannabes who desperately want to make money.
1. you have said in reply to rsirian1 that your coin is better than the one sampled on the sale for €81, so yours is worth €100-€150, this is based on one sale (not realistic). Also I said take the offer of €200, now you are valuing your coin lower.
2. your coins grade; i am only taking the time to look at the Obverse of the coin as the reverse looks to be a higher grade, but because the lower graded side of a coin determines the overall grade this is the side that matters. There is very little detail remaining on the bust, the ear, eye and hair are visible but show very little to no details. There are bang marks and scratches visible and the coin has been cleaned. You do not have to agree with me, but this coin is not VF, it is not low VF20, it is below this, so Fine at the very best and in my opinion it might be lower, but I will not attempt to grade lower than that because it is pointless and futile. So i will just stop at Fine. You can compare the lack of detail here in the images below.
4. Key date; this term is mostly used in American for US coins, where the variety of US coins is less than the rest of the world, thus a date with a lower mintage becomes more desirable where a large number of collectors of only US coins pay over the odds for a date to complete a collection (of let’s say cents or dollars), in the rest of the world no one really cares much about completing a collection of one coin - because there are so many to collect, and those that do won’t pay large like the US market. So key date of a Austrian Florin doesn’t mean the same as key date of a US dime for example, because most collectors of silver Florins are content with a few. Hence a low mintage Florin doesn’t always equate to a higher value, grade is far more desirable and unfortunately the grade of your coin is low.
Believe what ever you want as it is your coin, sell or price your coin however high or low you want, at the end of the day it is your coin and if you want to get €150 for it then you have to make that a reality. I personally would not pay more than silver value for it because of its grade, so I would not buy your coin. However I hope you get the most you can for your coin, so take the delusional offer of €200 NOW and wish you well.
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this coin is the definition of key date,highly sought after, a well known type
your ngc listing is full of crap
just take a look at sold prices
ms60 coin 110 dollar what a joke
in reality in unc condition its worth minimum 500 euros
i think as a german fella you should stick to mark coins junge
You can take your problem with NGC price listing up with them, it has nothing to do with me. I actually agree with you that the Uncirculated price is low - however BIG CAVEAT - your coin is not anywhere near that grade, and you actually show examples of VF/XF sold coins (compare these to your cleaned lower than Fine grade coin) - if your coin was as nice as these listed sold coins, you too could get that amount of money. But yours is not….. don’t forget to deduct the auction house fees from those sold prices, the fees that the sellers would have had to have paid for selling at auction.
On a side note, assuming I am German just because I live in Germany is irrelevant and assuming I only know about German Marks is insulting, grading and recognising coins with eye appeal or problems is universal which ever silver coin it is. It is like me assuming you are a poor Hungarian peasant who cheats people out of money because you apparently live in Hungary, which I would never do, as I have treated you, your thread and your insults with the up most professionalism - something you are forgetting to do to others just because you believe your coin is VF/XF and worth €200, which I disagree with. I have commented twice to take the offer, and good luck to you with however much you can get for it, but I am ow starting to suspect you are simply searching for justification for pricing your coin that high and know nothing about grades or coin dealing.
Go to a coin dealer and see how much they offer you for it.
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i may have said some things that may not have been in the best contest, i suppose,and i am sorry for it
but you replying to my post saying its about a 20 eur coin ,while you know a liitle abot this type is quite insulting to me
my only question is why would you reply to a post like this
i know my coin is in f condition,but you seem to think i dont know some things about grading
these florins are rare and highly sought after,even in worn condition
on the b kremnitz mint the portrait wears way faster,than on the vienna mint,due to weak die and strike
thats all i am gonna say
Yes sometimes the forum can get a little heated when two views don’t match, and your apology is well received and appreciated. Me saying the worth of you coin is just my view, others may make a case for a higher price, I have made a case for that price and justified it to the best of my ability and knowledge. I am also sorry if this case and price offended you, but it is just my view, after you asked for mine and or other members views on this forum with your question about the coins worth, I can’t be expected to just agree with you on the off chance you may get offended if I don’t, otherwise what is the point of asking the question in the first place?
You believe what you believe, you may be selling the coin, I believe what I believe from a neutral point of view or from someone who may be looking to buy this coin, that’s it nothing more nothing less. And after all the seller is the one that has to convince the buyer to part with their money.
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