How come South Xinjiang is a seperate issuer despite 1759 invasion? [solved]

Most historians consider Xinjiang to be a part of the Chinese Empire, albeit a frontier region after the invasion in 1759. How come it is a listed as a separate issuer during the Qing Dynasty?

It makes sense prior to this for it to be listed separately and also during revolts, or after the Qing dynasty collapsed as it was mostly autonomous during the Republic period and the early stages of the PRC before it was invaded again. But during the Qing dynasty it was definitely a part of the Chinese empire. So why list separately specifically during the period of the Qing Dynasty?

Think of it as a regional issuer like German notgeld. No one denies the city of Hamburg was part of Germany after WWI, but it had locally circulating currency used explicitly within Hamburg, so it gets it’s own issuer page.

The same could be said about the cash of Southern Xinjiang. They were made with a different alloy and on a different weight standard than the regular Qing cash. While technically legal tender within China proper at the time, the buying power of a Xinjiang cash was much stronger in Xinjiang, as they would have been treated as a regular 1 cash in China despite their different standard.

Tldr: The cash made in Xinjiang was made to specifically circulate within Xinjiang, and was a different standard than default Qing cash

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Think of it as a regional issuer like German notgeld. No one denies the city of Hamburg was part of Germany after WWI, but it had locally circulating currency used explicitly within Hamburg, so it gets it’s own issuer page.

 

The same could be said about the cash of Southern Xinjiang. They were made with a different alloy and on a different weight standard than the regular Qing cash. While technically legal tender within China proper at the time, the buying power of a Xinjiang cash was much stronger in Xinjiang, as they would have been treated as a regular 1 cash in China despite their different standard.

 

Tldr: The cash made in Xinjiang was made to specifically circulate within Xinjiang, and was a different standard than default Qing cash

Thanks, this makes a lot of sense. Although, personally, I may disagree; the coinage made in Hamburg was not ordered or authorised by the German government AFAIK, unlike cash from Xianjiang; whom Qianlong forced to produce qianlong tongbaos. In my eyes, this makes it belonging to the entire empire, not just the region.

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Think of it as a regional issuer like German notgeld. No one denies the city of Hamburg was part of Germany after WWI, but it had locally circulating currency used explicitly within Hamburg, so it gets it’s own issuer page.

 

The same could be said about the cash of Southern Xinjiang. They were made with a different alloy and on a different weight standard than the regular Qing cash. While technically legal tender within China proper at the time, the buying power of a Xinjiang cash was much stronger in Xinjiang, as they would have been treated as a regular 1 cash in China despite their different standard.

 

Tldr: The cash made in Xinjiang was made to specifically circulate within Xinjiang, and was a different standard than default Qing cash

Thanks, this makes a lot of sense. Although, personally, I may disagree; the coinage made in Hamburg was not ordered or authorised by the German government AFAIK, unlike cash from Xianjiang; whom Qianlong forced to produce qianlong tongbaos. In my eyes, this makes it belonging to the entire empire, not just the region.

Just because the emperor ordered it doesn’t mean it was for the whole empire. These were expressly made for circulation within Xinjiang and NOT outside of it, which makes them regional issues. They are classified/cataloged this way Zeno as well, not just Numista 

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Think of it as a regional issuer like German notgeld. No one denies the city of Hamburg was part of Germany after WWI, but it had locally circulating currency used explicitly within Hamburg, so it gets it’s own issuer page.

 

The same could be said about the cash of Southern Xinjiang. They were made with a different alloy and on a different weight standard than the regular Qing cash. While technically legal tender within China proper at the time, the buying power of a Xinjiang cash was much stronger in Xinjiang, as they would have been treated as a regular 1 cash in China despite their different standard.

 

Tldr: The cash made in Xinjiang was made to specifically circulate within Xinjiang, and was a different standard than default Qing cash

Thanks, this makes a lot of sense. Although, personally, I may disagree; the coinage made in Hamburg was not ordered or authorised by the German government AFAIK, unlike cash from Xianjiang; whom Qianlong forced to produce qianlong tongbaos. In my eyes, this makes it belonging to the entire empire, not just the region.

Just because the emperor ordered it doesn’t mean it was for the whole empire. These were expressly made for circulation within Xinjiang and NOT outside of it, which makes them regional issues. They are classified/cataloged this way Zeno as well, not just Numista 

Okay this makes a lot of sense, thank you.