Bolivia - 4 Soles - 1857 - unlisted copper metal

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didi83
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Posted: 2 Apr 2014, 14:23 #
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Hello friends, I found this coin, it is not listed in catalog.

It is same coin as this - https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces23934.html

 but the material is another - copper. You can add this coin to catalog if you want.

kommodore
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Posted: 2 Apr 2014, 21:39 #
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Looks a little fake to me, I'd say 20% fake?!
neilithic
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Posted: 2 Apr 2014, 21:42 #
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Quote: kommodorei'd say 20% fake?!
What on earth does that mean?  20% of the coin is fake and 80% of it is genuine?
kommodore
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Posted: 2 Apr 2014, 21:43 #
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20 % is the percent I estimate of being fake :)
neilithic
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Posted: 2 Apr 2014, 22:00 #
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Oh ok, I think you mean there's a 20% chance that it is a fake  ;)
apuking Catalogue referee
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Posted: 2 Apr 2014, 23:14 #
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check please the diameter of your coin to see if it matches, I would say either just a token or a contemporary.
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Andrey
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Posted: 3 Apr 2014, 08:46 #
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I'd raise the chance of this being a fake to 99%. Probably a counterfeit of the time made for circulation. It could have been coated with silver which was later worn or washed off.  
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Aurum
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Posted: 12 Jul 2015, 22:34 #
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PetrusAscanus
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Posted: 13 Jul 2015, 00:04 #
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Aurum, please use english zo we can all understand. Thanks
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DonChori
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Posted: 13 Jul 2015, 00:29 #
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There are no 4 Soles copper coins and the only Sol copper patterns are made in other years. I also think it's a  contemporanean fake.
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Aurum
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Posted: 13 Jul 2015, 21:50 #
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Quote: PetrusAscanusAurum, please use english zo we can all understand. Thanks
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KennyG
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Posted: 13 Jul 2015, 22:44 #
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Yes I see some silver washing, probably a contemporary counterfeit.
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