Is this Shapur II gold coin? Thank you in advance!

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Hello!
Topic of the day is Sassanid Empire.

I would like to ask you a question to help me to correctly indentify the coin - please see photos attached.

My research shows that it may be Shapur II - but I can't seem to find the right mint location and same design thus far...

My scale shows weight of 7.2 grams

Any info - I'd appreciate....

Thank you in advace!

Should I assume that the coin in question is quite unique as no replies on the topic yet....?
If you know someone that collects these and may have more info I'd appreciate a referral.
Thank you.
This coin seems to be cast and hence I doubt it is authentic. Furthermore, it is not even gold.
Thanks for your feedback
At first sight Qant.Geek seems to be right. It certainly doesn't look like gold and indeed it looks like a (modern) cast, especially because of the rough surfaces.
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Thank you Camerinvs. I am getting some mixed opinions. Just recieved a reply from one university professor - fyi: The king does wear the crown of Shapur II, who, with his long reign, is represented on coins with much stylistic variety. The "fillet" at the brim of the crown shows only 5 fat globes/pearls, but in that respect Göbl no. 95 is comparable. The reverse also recalls Göbl no. 95, but the diadem device is added at 11:00 (which Göbl does note for Shapur II in his charts). The weight of the coin is appropriate for this reign, as is the spread flan. Absence of a mint mark is not unusual.
It's possible that it is real, but it doesn't have the same feel as this one with respect to colour and surface:

http://grifterrec.rasmir.com/sasania/sas_rs/shap_II/i_sas_shapII_AV90v_rs.jpg

Now this looks like gold, and the surface seems right.
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That's a beautiful photo - thank you for sharing. My photo doesn't give the coin I have justice as it was done in bad lighting.
I'll have it tested for gold as well.
Thanks again for your input, it sure helps.
If you got it from a questionable source (e.g. someone on eBay who is not a professional coin dealer), then you should look at what else that person has to sell. If the price seemed too good to be true, then it probably was too good to be true.
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The iussuance of coins of the Sasanid kings is divided into three main types.

GOLD
The most important currency is the Golden Dinar with a weight between 7.10 and 7.50 gr. (from Ardashir to Sapor III) and diameter of about 20-25 mm.
Later (from Varahran II to Khosru II) the weight is reduced about 4.50 gr.
It's a coin issued for imperial representation.

SILVER
The Silver Drachm ​was the moust cospicious coinage; initially it kept unchanged the theoretical weight of the Attic Drachm, weight from 3 to 4.5 gr. with diameter (in first period) from 20-25 mm.
Later up to and beyond 30 mm. while keeping the average wieght about 4 gr.

Under Shaupr II in silver and during the first period of dynasty, a silver Obol is coined with weight from 0.8 to 0.6 gr. with diameter from 12-15 mm

During the first period rare are the emission of silver 1/2 Drachm and Tetradrachm in billon.

COPPER BILLON
Copper Pashiz / unit or Chalkous
with diameter over 28/30 mm with variable weight of more than 8gr. to Copper Pashiz / unit or Chalkous of 10/15mm and reduced average weight of 1.5 gr.

Regarding your coin, you can try out the density of the coin
(As described here: https://en.numista.com/numisdoc/measure-a-coin-s-density-27.html)
and consider whether it is actually silver or gold.
you consider that which ranges it must between 85% and 96%.
The hallmark of majority of coins is higher than 90%.

7.2 gr. it's perhaps a little too high for the standard of the Drachm..even calculating the edge.
coins of Khosru II period measuring 30/32 mm and have equal average weight around 4gr.

It could be a copper currency, but in the catalog was not emissions of Shapur II with the fire altar and the two attendants..but of Shapur I
example:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces87570.html

First, test the metal occurs.
then let me know

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