Coin identification (please help) [solved]

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Hello.
I got this from a swap.. they were extras.
Can someone tell me what are those, and if you don't mind
add them on the site if they are not (cuz I cant find them)

This is around 3.5g with 22-23mm diameter... I don't know if its replica or real one !


TELL ME THE PRICE IF YOU KNOW THE COIN - AND LINK SAME
Elizabeth I (1558 - 1603)
ELIZABETH: D'. G'. ANG: FR: ET: HI: REGINA
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Quote: "Frenchlover"​Elizabeth I (1558 - 1603)
​ELIZABETH: Dei. Gratia. ANGliae: FRanciae: ET: HIberniae: REGINA

​Nice coin!!!
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Its fake or real one?
I think the Elizabeth 5 pence coin is real. For the others I have no experience...
I collect anything: If it's Italian or Italian states i collect it even more!
Quote: "loruca"​I think the Elizabeth 5 pence coin is real. For the others I have no experience...
​Is there any link on numista or other link because i cant find it..

Please someone add the tokens on this site :)
Quote: "VintageCoin"
Quote: "loruca"​I think the Elizabeth 5 pence coin is real. For the others I have no experience...
​​Is there any link on numista or other link because i cant find it..

​Please someone add the tokens on this site :)
​I believe you mean 6 pence coin, no 5d pieces were made during Elizabeth I's reign. ;)

As for the coin's Numista page, it's one of these varieties;
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?mode=simplifie&p=1&l=england&r=elizabeth+I+6+Pence&e=england&d=&ca=3&no=&i=&v=&m=&a=&t=&dg=&w=&u=&f=&g=&c=&tb=y&tc=y&tn=y&tp=y&tt=y&te=y&cat=y

If you could figure out the date area that would make narrowing it down a lot easier. It does look real, and it's a more common English type, but be careful as always.

The rest are tokens, you might want to try adding them to the catalogue yourself.
Quote: "CassTaylor"
Quote: "VintageCoin"

Quote: "loruca"​I think the Elizabeth 5 pence coin is real. For the others I have no experience...
​​​Is there any link on numista or other link because i cant find it..
​​
​​Please someone add the tokens on this site :)
​​I believe you mean 6 pence coin, no 5d pieces were made during Elizabeth I's reign. ;)

​As for the coin's Numista page, it's one of these varieties;
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?mode=simplifie&p=1&l=england&r=elizabeth+I+6+Pence&e=england&d=&ca=3&no=&i=&v=&m=&a=&t=&dg=&w=&u=&f=&g=&c=&tb=y&tc=y&tn=y&tp=y&tt=y&te=y&cat=y

​If you could figure out the date area that would make narrowing it down a lot easier. It does look real, and it's a more common English type, but be careful as always.

​The rest are tokens, you might want to try adding them to the catalogue yourself.
​Mistype.
You are correct obviously!
I collect anything: If it's Italian or Italian states i collect it even more!
last one:
tokens that were given when buying gas at Texaco:
https://picclick.co.uk/1969-TEXACO-FAMOUS-FOOTBALLERS-COINS-Qty-18-142671255095.html
Little or no value
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Quote: "CassTaylor"
Quote: "VintageCoin"

Quote: "loruca"​I think the Elizabeth 5 pence coin is real. For the others I have no experience...
​​​Is there any link on numista or other link because i cant find it..
​​
​​Please someone add the tokens on this site :)
​​I believe you mean 6 pence coin, no 5d pieces were made during Elizabeth I's reign. ;)

​As for the coin's Numista page, it's one of these varieties;
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?mode=simplifie&p=1&l=england&r=elizabeth+I+6+Pence&e=england&d=&ca=3&no=&i=&v=&m=&a=&t=&dg=&w=&u=&f=&g=&c=&tb=y&tc=y&tn=y&tp=y&tt=y&te=y&cat=y

​If you could figure out the date area that would make narrowing it down a lot easier. It does look real, and it's a more common English type, but be careful as always.

​The rest are tokens, you might want to try adding them to the catalogue yourself.
​It doesn't have any date on the reverse 8.
Tokens are solved and added ( i deleted them )
Tell me about this coin,how much is worth,link of the coin ....
It has no date on it !
England did not begin dating coins at all until about 1550, and many of Elizabeth I's coins do not have dates.

Many of them can be attributed to a two (or so) year time span by the symbol that was used to mark the start of the obverse and reverse legends.

Coincraft and Spink have catalogues on English coinage that will attribute those mintmarks. On the obverse, it looks like your mintmark is the cross crosslet (21) that was used in her 2nd Issue coinage, 1560-61.

I do not think that it is a 6 pence, since there is no rose behind the bust. I think that it is a groat (4 pence), which was a very popular denomination at that time.

I cannot tell from the photo whether the coin is real (and has been buried) or whether it is a copy. You should do a ring test on it, to see if it is struck or cast. If it really is Spink 2556 (Spink 47th edition, 2012), the catalog value is 75 pounds in Fine.
Quote: "halfdisme"​I do not think that it is a 6 pence, since there is no rose behind the bust. I think that it is a groat (4 pence), which was a very popular denomination at that time.
​Good catch; I did a quick scan in the England catalogue, and Sp# 2556 seems to not be in the catalogue yet. I suggest contacting the referee (radrick007) about the issue.
Quote: "halfdisme"​England did not begin dating coins at all until about 1550, and many of Elizabeth I's coins do not have dates.

​Many of them can be attributed to a two (or so) year time span by the symbol that was used to mark the start of the obverse and reverse legends.

​Coincraft and Spink have catalogues on English coinage that will attribute those mintmarks. On the obverse, it looks like your mintmark is the cross crosslet (21) that was used in her 2nd Issue coinage, 1560-61.

​I do not think that it is a 6 pence, since there is no rose behind the bust. I think that it is a groat (4 pence), which was a very popular denomination at that time.

​I cannot tell from the photo whether the coin is real (and has been buried) or whether it is a copy. You should do a ring test on it, to see if it is struck or cast. If it really is Spink 2556 (Spink 47th edition, 2012), the catalog value is 75 pounds in Fine.
​Thanks alot..
This is a message for the administrator to add the coin in the catalog.
And other question, how to see from what period is my coin?
What sign i need to look for on my coin :)
The mintmark (datemark) for these is the symbol at the start of the obverse and reverse legends.

On your coin, it is clearest on the obverse. It is between the A in REGINA, and the E in ELIZABETH.

When you look that up on a table of mintmarks, it is the cross crosslet (symbol number 21), which Elizabeth only used with her Second Issue in 1560 and 1561.
Quote: "VintageCoin"​Its fake or real one?
​living in England I've had several Elizabeth I coins, coin should be hammered silver thin metal, there are replicas but always thicker metal more solid, first impression it looks like a replica but I could be wrong, without actually touching coin!, it doesn't look quite right to me.
coin will not be dated there usually advertised between the reign of the monarch - Elizabeth I 1558 to 1603
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According to Sphink, the weight standard of Elizabeth I's Second Issue was 96 grains per shilling.

If the groat is 1/3 of a shilling, then it should weigh about 32 grains when struck.

If there are 15.432 grains per gram, then your coin should have weighed about 2.07 grams when struck, and would weigh somewhat less for wear.

Since you say that it weighs around 3.5 grams, it is probably too heavy to be real.
Quote: "halfdisme"​According to Sphink, the weight standard of Elizabeth I's Second Issue was 96 grains per shilling.

​If the groat is 1/3 of a shilling, then it should weigh about 32 grains when struck.

​If there are 15.432 grains per gram, then your coin should have weighed about 2.07 grams when struck, and would weigh somewhat less for wear.

​Since you say that it weighs around 3.5 grams, it is probably too heavy to be real.
​According to this you said its a fake...
Maybe i will keep it as a kind of a token :)
Thank you very much my friend !
You are welcome.
Hello, Take a quick look at this website - http://dorchesters.com/reproduction-coins/house-of-tudor-coins/elizabeth-i-groat your coin looks very much the same. Thanks
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small "c "to left of the cross, should have spotted it first time around, c for copy impressed in to coin, no doubt at all this is a replica, same as the one on the replica website
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Quote: "Iainmac"​small "c "to left of the cross, should have spotted it first time around, c for copy impressed in to coin, no doubt at all this is a replica, same as the one on the replica website
​Thanks alot ..
Mystery solved :D

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