Can someone point me in the right direction for these 2 coins (Indian/Middle East I think) [solved]

Got these in a recent lot of ME coins I bought. Pretty junk condition, but I'm curious what they are. If you can tell me where to look, I'm happy to find them myself. I don't even know where to begin though

1st:

23-25mm

2nd:

29mm

I think I found the 2nd one https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces50373.html

Really cannot find the 1st one, looked through all the listings of the approx diameter and copper, which I assume it is and can't find it. Then again, I'm not entirely sure where it might be from. Indian states/Kingdoms?

First one looks like an overstrike, probably Ottoman.

For the second you are right.
The right picture is up side down

I see what you mean about the first coin, the pattern is very odd and 'abrupt'. Are overstrike coins like this worth anything to anyone or should I scrap it? I'd still be curious what it was/is though. Thanks.

Quote: "WHATEVERR"​I see what you mean about the first coin, the pattern is very odd and 'abrupt'. Are overstrike coins like this worth anything to anyone or should I scrap it? I'd still be curious what it was/is though. Thanks.

​Judging by the rim pattern I'd agree with Petrus; basically Ottoman Empire or one of it's Eyalets/Vassals.

Quote: "WHATEVERR"​I see what you mean about the first coin, the pattern is very odd and 'abrupt'. Are overstrike coins like this worth anything to anyone or should I scrap it? I'd still be curious what it was/is though. Thanks.

​They do have value, certainly not worth scrapping.

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​​They do have value, certainly not worth scrapping.

​I agree!!!