Spanish Coins ID

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Hello guys, I need your help to ID this Spanish coins, Im terrible to ID this types... and if possible their market values...Thanks in advance!



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Hello, Always remember to add measurements (weight would be very usefull in this cases).

A few things:

The first one I think its from Felipe III because of the year, which is not much visible at all but i think its posible to ID "160*"; for its kind of castle and lion inside a "shield", I think it needs to be a 8 Maravedies coin. I cant ID more.

The second its a bit problematic form me since I dont have it in my hand and I cant see "what I want to see".

Is also from Felipe III, we can see his name in the lettrering BUT it is countermarked, with a date "163(6)" and a value of "VI" which is okey as the law Pragmática de 11 de Marzo de 1636 mean to do that. SO, its originaly from Felipe III but was his son, Felipe IV who ordered the counterstamp.

The problem for me is that near to "VI" there is also "II", which can be from "XII". The same year, the law ordered counterstamps for values of XII and VI. As its in better condition the VI, could it be that it was counterstamped as XII and time afther that, again as VI... I dont know, I dont have enought knowledge...

Well, at least i leave you a few hints (8
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Quote: "klei92"​Hello, Always remember to add measurements (weight would be very usefull in this cases).

​A few things:

​The first one I think its from Felipe III because of the year, which is not much visible at all but i think its posible to ID "160*"; for its kind of castle and lion inside a "shield", I think it needs to be a 8 Maravedies coin. I cant ID more.

​The second its a bit problematic form me since I dont have it in my hand and I cant see "what I want to see".

​Is also from Felipe III, we can see his name in the lettrering BUT it is countermarked, with a date "163(6)" and a value of "VI" which is okey as the law Pragmática de 11 de Marzo de 1636 mean to do that. SO, its originaly from Felipe III but was his son, Felipe IV who ordered the counterstamp.

​The problem for me is that near to "VI" there is also "II", which can be from "XII". The same year, the law ordered counterstamps for values of XII and VI. As its in better condition the VI, could it be that it was counterstamped as XII and time afther that, again as VI... I dont know, I dont have enought knowledge...

​Well, at least i leave you a few hints (8
​Thanks klei92, unfortunately I dont have the measurements...
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Any more thoughts are more than welcome!
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