Iam trying to be more active on the forms again. So i thought i would post the odd things i find. Nothing big just odd balls. Well when drying my work clothes i found a US 2018 D Michigan parks quarter. What was pressed though grease, a larger one spot. 22 mm by 12 on the back.
Nothing to big. But nice. On the left side from middle of tree to almost the water. But the odd thing is like a few minutes
later i found. Another 2018 D Michigan quarter with a smaller pressed though grease in the same spot,but smaller.
Harder to see like fingers. But the same pattern is on the front.
And alot easier to see, Same spot and size on front and back. Just odd to me to find two same mint and year minor error ,pressed though grease , in 5 minutes.
Yes rsirian i like reading that one alot. house of ham going in detail on some of the odd things he finds. Like the 2023D nickels with pressed though grease he has been finding. Iam looking for one now too.
Not much this week, been to busy. Not much time to look at coins. But did come across a quarter 2016 with a clad issue. I been seeing this alot. It makes me think it could be why we are seeing a lot more extra metal and filled dies.
The copper not in the middle and pills off when pressed. The weight is good.
So to me it a cladding issue. Now on this quater not sure what is going on. Pressed though or just die ware. Detail is going. And on both sides
Well you all have a merry Christmas and a happy new year daryl
Oh on the cladding issue have found around 100 of them. Were the copper is not in the middle. Here is one with more of the copper-nickel pilled off. From the pressing .
This is W quarter i even put in my collection . Just because it a W.
Oh on the cladding issue have found around 100 of them. Were the copper is not in the middle. Here is one with more of the copper-nickel pilled off. From the pressing .
This is W quarter i even put in my collection . Just because it a W.
I have to disagree. If the Cu-Ni were pulled off that area would be significantly thinner. The clad layers are 0.44mm thick while the copprer is 0.88mm thick.
Pretty much every clad quarter looks like that. It's caused by the punch that shears off round planchets from the clad sheet material. The Cu-Ni clad on the surface gets dragged on top of the copper and then the copper in the middle gets dragged down over the other side of the clad. Try finding one where the edge has copper in the center and the silvery clad on the top/bottom.
Maybe when they sheared the copper and copper nickel was pulled all the way around over the edge. Then flatten so there and extra layer of both over the edge.
I dont think it would be some plating it. Have found to many of different years for that. Sorry have to run, car is on warming up. It is 10 here. Thank you for your thoughts. daryl
I misguided you (and me) some. I was basing the clad/copper thicknesses on those of the clad $1 coins. Actually they are closer to 20% for the clad and 60% for the copper core. The clad is still much too thick to be peeling off that way.
Send me your address in a PM. I will send that 2016 to you. I think when punched out . It rip a a thin layer of copper and copper nickel down. And in pressing the coin flatten it out. Leaving a thin layer of copper and copper nickel on top.
Well got back from the bank, store, and gas station. Have the quarter all pack up for rsirian. Well the bank had 6 rolls of 50 cent coins. Open 3 so far a 1967, 2004P, and 2019P. And 6, 2023 D. One with a die crack.
Oh yes you are right. But why does it look like the copper nickel is flaking off passed the rim
From the quarter Daryl sent me I created this which I think explains what is happening. I also found 2 more quarters with a similar condition (out of 200 I examined) and Daryl found a clad dime with the same condition.
Just an observation on small changes in the front of the US Roosevelt dimes Km 195a. The first one i found was the change 1999 to 2000.
The head got smaller. And the word Liberty moved away from the rim.
Now the change of 2008 to 2009 i saw last week.
The first thing i saw was the mint mark moved up.The date was bigger and moved away from the neck. It really bothered me till i found the differences and what year it happen. Nothing big but different.
Iam sorry for not getting things done. Iam getting over walking pneumonia and just starting to get on my feet. Iam very much behind in everything. But like 2 weeks ago my friend who own a laundry mat. Gave me an interesting washing machine coin. He pulled from a washing machine. It is a 2001 P US 1 cent coin. With the edge being rolled over the copper was lifted off the zinc. On both sides. And was removed. leaving just the zinc.
you can still see a little copper at the edge of the rolling over.
I been finding a lot of lose hubs, collar issues. Were material is pushed up higher than the rim.
As you can see a thin line from the B pasted the E. Is raised above the rim. In fact, iam finding so many of these iam not saving them anymore. In less they are really bad.
Is this the beginning of cupping. Or just a lose collur issue.
It getting to be time to put away things i found. And clean house.
Would you say this is thick and thin rims. On this Mexican 5 pesos 1981 Km485.
thick rims thin rims
Next to each other
Thick rims dia 27.15 thickness 2.38
thin rims dia 27.09 thickness 2.34
Or is this something else.
thank you daryl
Good evening,
Just to confirm, we are talking about a difference of 0.06 and 0.04 mm, on circulated examples, right? That is within the parameters of most mints and I would suggest that it does not constitute a variety…
Having said that, in reviewing the CR, if the above first four images are used as comparison, it would be harder for me to deny.
I will have to go with Jasanache thoughts on this. He knows more of the standers of the Mexican mint then i do. But i still well put in my book as thick and thin rims. We will have to see what he thinks of my one leg eagle coin. Thank you all for you input.
First i am sorry for not posting in some time. Been very busy. On the thick and thin rims, well disappointing. But it is what it is. But i still will put in my collection as thick and thin rims.
On disappointing, last week a got a very nice 2004 Wisconsin P state quarter. And thought it had an extra upper leaf, on the corn. I been looking for the extra lower leaf and upper leaf now for 21 years. But getting it home and looking at it, it seems to be pressed though grease. There is more around the cow's ear.
First i am sorry for not posting in some time. Been very busy. On the thick and thin rims, well disappointing. But it is what it is. But i still will put in my collection as thick and thin rims.
On disappointing, last week a got a very nice 2004 Wisconsin P state quarter. And thought it had an extra upper leaf, on the corn. I been looking for the extra lower leaf and upper leaf now for 21 years. But getting it home and looking at it, it seems to be pressed though grease. There is more around the cow's ear.
Oh well maybe someday
I also have put the Mexican rim varieties in my collection.
Yes Ole to us there a difference. Here one i have no idea what happen. It is a Brazil 25 centavos from 1994.You can see a mirror image of the date on other side. But it is not in the right place.The black line above the 25 is where the date is on other side.
Unlike the other Brazil coins with the date pressed though to the other side,behind the date. This one is like 5/7 out of place. Should not be there. How did it move to the bottom of the coin and over one line.
Not like this 1994 10 centavos coin with the date showing on other side,but behind the date.
Like i said on the 25 centavos coin the date is where the black line is above the 25 on other side.How on earth did it get there.
It's not the first time I have seen coins from Brazil with ghosting, I think it's called like that? But for my life I can't remember which coin(s), maybe @rsirian1 can, his memory is still strong!
Hi Ole. It is not ghosting. On the 10 centavos coin it is pressed though from the date on other side. In fact we talk about them quite a few years back. The date is pressed into the coin. But on the 25 centavos coin it is not in the right place for that. If it was a pressed though date it would be above the 25. Where the date is on other side. It completely in the wrong place.
On the 25 centavos it not a die clash. If it was they would have to take the die out move 120 degrees. hit it but only have the date hit. Then move back 120 degrees. And make a coin.
On the 25 centavos it not a die clash. If it was they would have to take the die out move 120 degrees. hit it but only have the date hit. Then move back 120 degrees. And make a coin.
Sorry going back to the Brazil 25 centavos 1994,with extra date. This is got me stamped.
This is the front and back. With a flip over to the side. You can see extra date by the cen in centavos. One of the biggest thing i can not get my head around is on the front the date is in the middle of two of the straight lines of the rims. Where the back goes along the straight rim and only one side, not two.
How did the date move that much. This has me competly stumped/
Sorry been very busy. And had alot of issues come up. Not much a Candain 1 cent coin and a few wheat's. But found a real nice example of orange peel (error).
Odd seems to be always by In God we trust. Most be a weak area for the die. It is in really nice shape. For a 2007 coming out of circulation.
On this 2020 quarter ,at first thought had tape on it. Well put in alcohol and it did not come off. Took a closer look and it pressed in below surface. Looks like pressed though a rag. Even has threads lines.
Front
You can see the the lines of the threads.
back even has it
Not much but nice. Did get a 1922 peace dollar as a birthday gift. So happy.
I think your eyes are still working well! Bravo. Now in numista we don't normally take mint mark placements into account for variants. I think the ‘7’s might be fine/bold, but it's difficult to document.
If you want to try to make CR, please feel free to use any of the two!
Thank you Ole. Iam not sure how to do a CR. If you could it would be helpful. Been very busy, sister just got out of hospital. My girlfriend goes in tomorrow. Then the 2 to 3 days wait for biopsy findings. And other things. It has been a interesting 4 weeks. And more to come.
Did find a W quarter today.
and in change got two nice 1 cents
the 1955 even has ghosting. A Mexico with a large cud
