New ad provider

Hello,

We have started working with a new advertising partner. You may notice some new ad formats appearing on certain pages.

The goal is to strengthen the long-term financial sustainability of Numista, in addition to our existing advertisers.

It will take a few weeks for the ads to stabilize and for us to fine-tune the setup.

Thank you for your understanding and continued support.

 Is it to do with this that just now appeared at the end of pages > 

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Yes, that banner is related. Some of these ads can be personalized if you allow cookies. You can either accept, or click “More options” and then “Reject all”.

I can uderstand commercial banner on the right panel, and on the bottom of the page, but I hate commercial inside the text/catalogue/etc. I think I will start to strike and not login to numista for next few days.

Thanks for your feedback.

On the phone, the cookies banner cover almost the whole screen, not only the bottom part like on PC. I just clicked on it and hope that this will not appear again (until I clean my cookies).

Another thing: so the new ads will be displayed between search results like below? Was little surprised seeing this kind of ads between the results of my search.

alcest

I can uderstand commercial banner on the right panel, and on the bottom of the page, but I hate commercial inside the text/catalogue/etc.

+1

One thing is an ad banner at the side of the page, that's ok. But an ad at the middle of the page between the search results /catalog display is another story.

Sorry Xavier, but I don't think this was a good move.

Hey Xavier, 

Firstly, I want to say that I love the website a lot, and appreciate all that it has done for my collection. I understand that Numista's financial health may require additional funding, but I am not sure this is the best way to address it, as the ads seem to be completely unrelated to numismatics, and some are very questionable (like the BTC gambling ad I have attached). I am not sure such ads are good for the site. Just thought I should put that out there. 

Rajbarage

Sorry, but I am getting cropped porn for ads. (I will refrain from posting here, however.) Can we please revert this decision until we can find a suitable provider?

Thank you everyone for the feedback.

I understand that the ad in the middle of the search results is annoying, and I removed it.

Regarding the quality of the ads: as I mentioned in my first post, it will take a couple of weeks until the ad networks understand Numista and serve higher-quality ads. Still it's not acceptable to see gambling and porn, even on the first day. I will review the settings.

Xavier

I understand that the ad in the middle of the search results is annoying, and I removed it.

 

Thank you 🙂

I have yet to see a (new) ad. Are they being rolled out by areas?

Edit: and of course, as soon as I said that on the next page I looked at there were two but on the side and bottom so not intrusive at all.  Does Numista get a cut of all redirected links?

I have not yet seen any of the new ads, using web browser on desktop machine.

Are you using an ad blocker? Historically I've always allowed ads on Numista (a privilege I very rarely grant websites), but I found it was blocking ads again on here for some reason. Once I turned it off, the new ads popped up. The banners on the side and bottom are tolerable, but I'll be turning it back on if they start popping up in the search results or anywhere else intrusive.

This is kind of annoying.

It's a bug, it should not be happening.
Did you see this issue only with this specific ad “the first descendant” or also with other ads?
What browser are you using?

So far only this add, both at home (Firefox) and work (Edge). It only flashes up for a few seconds then disappears but long enough to be annoying. 

I tried a fix, but I'm not sure it will work as I can't see the issue myself.
If this happens again, I recommend you click the blue icons at the top-right corner of the ads to report or disable it.

Really poor idea, sounds like you have chosen a very low quality provider.

I have had all these

“Thai girls looking for love” and it shows a girl in a bra licking her lips

“Play Evony” and it shows a huge breasted girl holding a sword. (I am gay and have ZERO interest in women or hetty porn)

“Super gamble slots, $1,000 Free cash” I am a recovering gaming addict who is on month 9 away from slot machines.

And now I got a cloudflare thing asking me to verify I am a human - no doubt caused by your dodgy ad software.

Sounds like you have sold us all down the creek for the commercial whore of Babylon. 

All part of Cory Doctorow's book “Ensh!ttifcation of the Internet”. Numista has started the slide towards Facebook and Youtube levels of ads.

I'm really sorry you received those ads. I'm pushing the provider so that they find a solution as soon as possible.

Xavier

I tried a fix, but I'm not sure it will work as I can't see the issue myself.
If this happens again, I recommend you click the blue icons at the top-right corner of the ads to report or disable it.

Do that and you will be added to 900 Russian, Nigerian, Chinese and Indian scammer lists and you will be receiving thousands of spam emails from Carvana, $$$$ Y+O+U HAVE WON$$$$, Wavymyhair, BED BATH and bayond, Thai girls want love, Hot singles over 40 in your area and Viagara/Cailis only 69 cents a tab.

I think you should disable the ad software. No one asked for it and it was just for the site to make some $$$$$.

Xavier

Thank you everyone for the feedback.
it will take a couple of weeks until the ad networks understand Numista and serve higher-quality ads. Still it's not acceptable to see gambling and porn, even on the first day. I will review the settings.

No such thing as higher quality ads on the internet, all of them are sh*t, most are scams and several often have malware and virus links in them along with Phishing.

2 weeks later and all the ads will be for

1. Gambling - casinos and “freemium” games with “lootboxes”

2. Porno

3. Crypto spam/scams

4. Salacious gossip

5. Get rich quick

6. Knock off ads like fake Gucci etc

7. Temu/Amazon etc.

8. Silly online games that show big t*tted girls/usually manga ones and violent war scenes

9. Viral trends

10. Anastasia date/ads from girls in 3rd world countries looking for love and marriage

11. Fake surveys and “You have definitely won a cellphone” etc phishing scams.

Moneytane

Xavier

Thank you everyone for the feedback.
it will take a couple of weeks until the ad networks understand Numista and serve higher-quality ads. Still it's not acceptable to see gambling and porn, even on the first day. I will review the settings.

No such thing as higher quality ads on the internet, all of them are sh*t, most are scams and several often have malware and virus links in them along with Phishing.

 

2 weeks later and all the ads will be for

 

1. Gambling - casinos and “freemium” games with “lootboxes”

2. Porno

3. Crypto spam/scams

4. Salacious gossip

5. Get rich quick

6. Knock off ads like fake Gucci etc

7. Temu/Amazon etc.

8. Silly online games that show big t*tted girls/usually manga ones and violent war scenes

9. Viral trends

10. Anastasia date/ads from girls in 3rd world countries looking for love and marriage

11. Fake surveys and “You have definitely won a cellphone” etc phishing scams.

You realize that the ads that are served are based on your browsing behaviour, right? If you see all those ads, it says more about you than about the ad providers 😉

smvdbrink

You realize that the ads that are served are based on your browsing behaviour, right? If you see all those ads, it says more about you than about the ad providers 😉

Greetings.  Not necessarily.  I downloaded Opera (a completely separate web browser) and started loading Numista from within a different web browser as a test.  I then see ads that range from door knobs and cars all the way to women with their legs spread wide open.  I don't view websites like those even from within my other web browsers on my computer.  Since Numista is a website that some coin clubs use (and hence kids might see these ads), I can't in good conscience recommend Numista as a website for coin clubs or professionals.

TonyCoins

smvdbrink

You realize that the ads that are served are based on your browsing behaviour, right? If you see all those ads, it says more about you than about the ad providers 😉

Greetings.  Not necessarily.  I downloaded Opera (a completely separate web browser) and started loading Numista from within a different web browser as a test.  I then see ads that range from door knobs and cars all the way to women with their legs spread wide open.  I don't view websites like those even from within my other web browsers on my computer.  Since Numista is a website that some coin clubs use (and hence kids might see these ads), I can't in good conscience recommend Numista as a website for coin clubs or professionals.

I'm not sure that's completely true either.  Chrome (Google) for instance collects all kinds of browsing history, add clicks, time of hovering over ads or other links, etc.  That data typically is tied to you IP address and/or your google account. It is then sold to third party advertisers and then fed back to you in the ads you see now on Numista.  Downloading and using a completely different browser doesn't erase your prior internet browsing history.  Even using a brand new computer on the same IP address won't help much especially if you log into your google account on it.

rsirian1

I'm not sure that's completely true either.  Chrome (Google) for instance collects all kinds of browsing history, add clicks, time of hovering over ads or other links, etc.  That data typically is tied to you IP address and/or your google account. It is then sold to third party advertisers and then fed back to you in the ads you see now on Numista.  Downloading and using a completely different browser doesn't erase your prior internet browsing history.  Even using a brand new computer on the same IP address won't help much especially if you log into your google account on it.

For purposes of disclosure, I had already cleared out the cache on all of the other web browsers on my computers and even used a VPN for my testing . . . and I was not logged into my Google account either.

Additionally, I have not been searching for door knobs, new cars (mine is already paid off – I don't want a new one) or women with their legs spread wide open on any computer or mobile device.  Just saying.

Understand. I was just saying that the ads are not necessarily browser dependent. Using one browser for Numista and another one for other type browsing won't necessarily isolate Numista.

rsirian1

Understand. I was just saying that the ads are not necessarily browser dependent.

And that's a good point, and I'm glad you brought it up.  I've worked in IT for over 25 years and am quite familiar with the disingenuous tracking that Google does.  I just wanted to raise awareness that there are also randomized ads that may be offered down to the client level.  But I can't imagine that pornographic looking ads are acceptable in any context.  It seems that very little QC (quality control) testing was done in my humble opinion.

smvdbrink

Moneytane

Xavier

Thank you everyone for the feedback.
it will take a couple of weeks until the ad networks understand Numista and serve higher-quality ads. Still it's not acceptable to see gambling and porn, even on the first day. I will review the settings.

No such thing as higher quality ads on the internet, all of them are sh*t, most are scams and several often have malware and virus links in them along with Phishing.

 

2 weeks later and all the ads will be for

 

1. Gambling - casinos and “freemium” games with “lootboxes”

2. Porno

3. Crypto spam/scams

4. Salacious gossip

5. Get rich quick

6. Knock off ads like fake Gucci etc

7. Temu/Amazon etc.

8. Silly online games that show big t*tted girls/usually manga ones and violent war scenes

9. Viral trends

10. Anastasia date/ads from girls in 3rd world countries looking for love and marriage

11. Fake surveys and “You have definitely won a cellphone” etc phishing scams.

You realize that the ads that are served are based on your browsing behaviour, right? If you see all those ads, it says more about you than about the ad providers 😉

Again wrong.

I have no interest in p0rn or gambling, the viagara emails are from some spam I got to my gmail and yahoo email addresses bewteen 2011 and 2017 and featured mis spelled words  for Viagra and Cialis. I play one online Mahjong game I bought off Acer. I have an anti virus.

 I have never paid for or bought or downloaded any p0rno movies on the net and I have ZERO interest in women, any one under 40 or any other bizarre fetish. They serve these garbage ads to everyone. In NZ you can't use incogni and I have been using AdBlock plus since 2018, but turn it off for Numista - so how I get sent all this rubbish I do not know.

I also are doing an online Masters degree and use my machine for online seminars, lectures and tutorials along with online exams and essay writing exercises, so why oh why would I be looking up p0rno or other dumb things. Often I look at news websites though and they have a lot of the same low quality ads (Malware, foreign brides, surveys, games, gambling, you have won etc). Plus I am also 49, well past the age of seeing Porno as some exotic forbidden fruit.

I suspect I get Carvana and Wavymyhair emails, as my gmail address sounds similar to a “Taniqusha Johnson” in Florida - I suspect she is a Black female who likes weave and buying Escalades as the Carvana emails (Some American car thing), always say “Tanishqua we have found four escalades for you” etc.

But yeah thanks for the accusations. I read some where 90% of the searches on google are for p0rnography and most of the content on the net is p0rno. So how do I not know most of you are doing that stuff as well.

TonyCoins

rsirian1

Understand. I was just saying that the ads are not necessarily browser dependent.

And that's a good point, and I'm glad you brought it up.  I've worked in IT for over 25 years and am quite familiar with the disingenuous tracking that Google does.  I just wanted to raise awareness that there are also randomized ads that may be offered down to the client level.  But I can't imagine that pornographic looking ads are acceptable in any context.  It seems that very little QC (quality control) testing was done in my humble opinion.

I agree.  I downloaded a new (to me) browser this morning and have been using it for awhile today. Interestingly, without me changing any settings none of the new type ads have shown up but all the older numismatic ones are still there.  Brave.

Folks, a simple way to not see ads anymore is to pay for Numista Premium feature ;-P

I actually like the ads on Numista. I don't want to pay to remove them. I'll just block the new ones.

Stricter settings have been applied.

If you still see inappropriate ads, please send me a screenshot and the link of the ad via private message.

Good I am glad. It is enough we are bombarded with ads from every other corner.

I know you need to make money and have premium and need ads. But you also forget even us coin collectors have bills and money is tight during this global recession. Some of us (not me) are also from countries that are very poor, or from low income and straightened circumstances (I won't say me as my collection is at Faroukian levels now) - but a few people are struggling here and don't need extra stretching of their limited resources.

 The ‘we value your privacy’ was still popping up lots of times 

last night, as usual - and now this morning … nothing. Hooray ! 

 Not sure if that was seven days of fun or annoyance. 🕖 

Ads will just scare people away. With all the ads, premium features, increasing greed and spying by big brother. The Internet will die like Broadcasted TV and the radio and then everyone will move on to something else, that starts good and gets progressively worse as huge corporations take over everything,  en$h*ttify it and bury it alive in ads and people have had enough.

Social media has peaked and on its way down, countries are restricting faceless American corporations and forcing them to pay taxes and have rules and the stuck up proud American omni corps are just restricting their services from countries.

The age of American commercialism is coming to an end. The world is sick of the USA and its rebelling, Donald Trump is the last straw.

Moneytane

Ads will just scare people away.

Do you have a suggestion on how to make Numista viable without income from ads?

Moneytane

Ads will just scare people away.

For information, the same kind of ads were present on Numista from 2007 to 2022. That's the period when the number of visitors grew the most.

We have PREMIUM and also 

Focusing on numismatics, we could have a list of the members who indicate a professional or semi-professional website on their profile.
A list of commercial stores that would give us discounts would not be bad too

To remain free access, numista needs advertising to generate revenue.

Quoting an Asterix book: ‘Adverts pay for the sand in the arena’.